Rinnegan Sasuke vs Kabuto

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Conditions:

Sasuke has a fully mastered Rinnegan.

Kabuto may use his ressurected Shinobi.

Knowledge:

Knowledge that they had at the end of their battle. Kabuto also knows Sasuke has Rinnegan.

Arena:

Cave

Starting Distance:

Opposite Sides of the Cave

Starting Stances:

Sasuke has 3 Tomoe Sharingan active

Kabuto is squating on the ground

Restrictions:

- Madara Uchiha

- Nagato Uzumaki

- Itachi Uchiha​
 

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Kabuto still wins.

Sound Genjutsu/White range will end sasuke, Or Kabuto's edos just tire him out.
 

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Kabuto still wins.

Sound Genjutsu/White range will end sasuke, Or Kabuto's edos just tire him out.

Sasuke has knowledge of Tayuya' Genjutsu here. He'll be sure to use some disrupting attack to cause the cave to crash down and disrupt the sound.

Shinra Tensei would work in that Situation. It also doules for a counter to white rage if he uses a larger one that can intercept it.

What Edo's can defy Human Path? the strongest one I can think of that he has is Kakuzu or Deidara.
 

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Sasuke has knowledge of Tayuya' Genjutsu here. He'll be sure to use some disrupting attack to cause the cave to crash down and disrupt the sound.

Shinra Tensei would work in that Situation.
Are you a troll?
He didn't know how to stop it, in fact he didn't
 

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He knows now pesant. He had never encountered Sound Genjutsu before then.

How does that indicate he knows how to stop it?
Naruto knew of Nagato's paths and still got owned in KM form, what's your point?
 

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How does that indicate he knows how to stop it?
Naruto knew of Nagato's paths and still got owned in KM form, what's your point?

I like how you left out the part where Naruto said he forgot. On top of the fact that he was talking to Nagato and not fighting him/using any of his abilitites. Its also not a valid point to compare Naruto to Sasuke.

Sasuke has recalled things far gone in the past and used them. As seen when he replicated the seal Kakashi used on him. Here, he knows that its sound genjutsu and can use some disrupting attack to off put the sound.
 

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Sasuke has knowledge of Tayuya' Genjutsu here. He'll be sure to use some disrupting attack to cause the cave to crash down and disrupt the sound.

Shinra Tensei would work in that Situation. It also doules for a counter to white rage if he uses a larger one that can intercept it.

What Edo's can defy Human Path? the strongest one I can think of that he has is Kakuzu or Deidara.

Sound travels faster than sasukes reaction time, before sasuke can even use Shinra tensei/Other paths/Jutsu's the sound would've already made it to his ears.
Also shinra tensei isn't a counter for white rage, Sasuke can't see nor hear anything, he would be in agonizing pain. Yet you think he will be able to Aim/use shinra tensei before kabuto makes it to sasuke?
 

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You gave Sasuke fictional abilities, restricted Kabuto's strongest edos and Kabuto still wins.

Sasuke will tire out whereas Kabuto has endless chakra, not to mention he has Muu and the Third Raikage.

Oh and Deidara's C0.
 

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I like how you left out the part where Naruto said he forgot. On top of the fact that he was talking to Nagato and not fighting him/using any of his abilitites. Its also not a valid point to compare Naruto to Sasuke.

Sasuke has recalled things far gone in the past and used them. As seen when he replicated the seal Kakashi used on him. Here, he knows that its sound genjutsu and can use some disrupting attack to off put the sound.



Doesn't look like forgetting to me

Again, just because you see an attack, doesn't mean you know how to stop it. He couldn't even react to it so how is he going to stop it?
This thread wreaks of fail :|
 

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Doesn't look like forgetting to me

Again, just because you see an attack, doesn't mean you know how to stop it. He couldn't even react to it so how is he going to stop it?
This thread wreaks of fail :|

1. At this point hes just now noticing he can use Pains abilities [ ]. Also note this is after he jumped in checking on Bee while not making any worry of Nagato. Not worrying about battle or anything.

At this point hes confirming his memory problems [ ]

2. What was Sasuke going to do to an attack he had no knowledge of? Now he has the required knowledge.


Oh, and *Reek

You gave Sasuke fictional abilities, restricted Kabuto's strongest edos and Kabuto still wins.

Sasuke will tire out whereas Kabuto has endless chakra, not to mention he has Muu and the Third Raikage.

Oh and Deidara's C0.

Kabuto has limitless chakra? Quit talking non-sense.

C0 is a non factor as Kabuto wont nuke himself (or Preta if you perfer). Third Raikage gets caught with Bansho Ten'in --> Human Path or if hes close hes set alight with Amaterasu.

Muu is also devaluated by Preta Path.

Sound travels faster than sasukes reaction time, before sasuke can even use Shinra tensei/Other paths/Jutsu's the sound would've already made it to his ears.
Also shinra tensei isn't a counter for white rage, Sasuke can't see nor hear anything, he would be in agonizing pain. Yet you think he will be able to Aim/use shinra tensei before kabuto makes it to sasuke?

Tayuya has to come out of his chest first to do the Jutsu. Amaterasu is faster than that.

He Could deflect it while the jutsu is still traveling.
 
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1. At this point hes just now noticing he can use Pains abilities [ ]. Also note this is after he jumped in checking on Bee while not making any worry of Nagato. Not worrying about battle or anything.

At this point hes confirming his memory problems [ ]

2. What was Sasuke going to do to an attack he had to knowledge of? Now he has the required knowledge.


Oh, and *Reek



Kabuto has limitless chakra? Quit talking non-sense.

C0 is a non factor as Kabuto wont nuke himself. Third Raikage gets caught with Bansho Ten'in --> Human Path or if hes close hes set alight with Amaterasu.

Muu is also devaluated by Preta Path.



Tayuya has to come out of his chest first to do the Jutsu. Amaterasu is faster than that.

He Could deflect it while the jutsu is still traveling.

Judging by both your sig, name and ava, I'm not even going to take you seriously, but I'll entertain


1. Yet he still has remember at that point and still couldn't' stop the Nakara path, again, invalid. Same with CT
2. Refer to what I just said about CT

Kabuto has limitless chakra? Quit talking non-sense.

C0 is a non factor as Kabuto wont nuke himself. Third Raikage gets caught with Bansho Ten'in --> Human Path or if hes close hes set alight with Amaterasu.
Yes he does, Kabuto has Sage mode and has Jugo's ability to gather nature energy just as Naruto continuously refilled his Senjutsu chakara
 

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Tayuya has to come out of his chest first to do the Jutsu. Amaterasu is faster than that.

He Could deflect it while the jutsu is still traveling.

Do you actually know how fast sound travels?

Kabuto doesn't even need to be in this battle, His edo army stomps sasuke into the ground.
 

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Judging by both your sig, name and ava, I'm not even going to take you seriously, but I'll entertain

Making faves apart of this debate? doesn't make your argument any stronger.

1. Yet he still has remember at that point and still couldn't' stop the Nakara path, again, invalid. Same with CT
2. Refer to what I just said about CT

How would he stop Naraka path when he was battling Human Path? He couldn't makes clones because they were to busy solo'ing Kages Lol. Hop off.

Same point with CT, He couldn't make clones to spam CT nor did he have Bijudama yet. So what was he going to do?


Yes he does, Kabuto has Sage mode and has Jugo's ability to gather nature energy just as Naruto continuously refilled his Senjutsu chakara

He has to be out of Sage Mode before he can gather more. No ones ever gather more while in Sage Mode and doing so would disrupt chakra flow, turning him to stone.

Do you actually know how fast sound travels?

Kabuto doesn't even need to be in this battle, His edo army stomps sasuke into the ground.

Im refering to when its in the form of a Dragon.

What can his Edo Do? Most of them can fall prey to Amaterasu or Human Path. Not to mention Hanzo and Kimmimaro are the only ones with something to get around Susano'O
 

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What can his Edo Do? Most of them can fall prey to Amaterasu or Human Path. Not to mention Hanzo and Kimmimaro are the only ones with something to get around Susano'O

So you think Sasuke is taking out All of kabuto's Edo's and going to use Human path on them all simultaneously, While Dealing with Kabuto and defending against his attacks?.

XDXD
 

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So you think Sasuke is taking out All of kabuto's Edo's and going to use Human path on them all simultaneously, While Dealing with Kabuto and defending against his attacks?.

XDXD

Again, your not making any arguments for what his Edo's can do.

starting with Chou Shinra Tensei dirupts any and all advancement of the Edo's and techs Kabuto is doing. It will also leave Kabuto destabilized like Suigetsu and allow Sasuke to get in close for a finishing attack, Like Human Path or Amaterasu.

Chibaku Tensei also can't be countered by any of the Edo's except Muu. And even then, he could be taken out and Chibaku Tensei then becomes a OHKO.
 
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Making faves apart of this debate? doesn't make your argument any stronger.



How would he stop Naraka path when he was battling Human Path? He couldn't makes clones because they were to busy solo'ing Kages Lol. Hop off.

Same point with CT, He couldn't make clones to spam CT nor did he have Bijudama yet. So what was he going to do?




He has to be out of Sage Mode before he can gather more. No ones ever gather more while in Sage Mode and doing so would disrupt chakra flow, turning him to stone.



Im refering to when its in the form of a Dragon.

What can his Edo Do? Most of them can fall prey to Amaterasu or Human Path. Not to mention Hanzo and Kimmimaro are the only ones with something to get around Susano'O
Anytime you think Sasuke, with or without Rinne can solo and Edo Army along with DSM Kabuto, then I will continue to provide them in my arguments

1. ??? Nagato is all paths in one, he was using the Nakara path when to catch him, yet still couldn't stop it. Even know he knew of the Human Path, he still couldn't stop it even after remembering. Exactly my point with CT

2. ??? Sage mode stated no such thing
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Anytime you think Sasuke, with or without Rinne can solo and Edo Army along with DSM Kabuto, then I will continue to provide them in my arguments

thats not the point. I never Said Sasuke wins. Im creating an antagonist role so we can determine who wins with certainty and why. Im simply playing the role of Sasuke to provide the counters and points.

1. ??? Nagato is all paths in one, he was using the Nakara path when to catch him, yet still couldn't stop it. Even know he knew of the Human Path, he still couldn't stop it even after remembering. Exactly my point with CT

Your point makes no sense. Why would Naruto stop Narka Path/Human Path when having knowledge wouldnt change how he was countering it? The fight was also interupted before that whole squable could be finished. Bee could have even escaped if he used Biju Mode.

Your point is moot on other grounds as Naruto had nothing at the time to counter it. No Kage Bunshin and no Bijudama. So remembering was pointless.

2. ??? Sage mode stated no such thing
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Show me where a person in sage mode gathers more sage chakra.
 

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thats not the point. I never Said Sasuke wins. Im creating an antagonist role so we can determine who wins with certainty and why. Im simply playing the role of Sasuke to provide the counters and points.



Your point makes no sense. Why would Naruto stop Narka Path/Human Path when having knowledge wouldnt change how he was countering it? The fight was also interupted before that whole squable could be finished. Bee could have even escaped if he used Biju Mode.

Your point is moot on other grounds as Naruto had nothing at the time to counter it. No Kage Bunshin and no Bijudama. So remembering was pointless.



Show me where a person in sage mode gathers more sage chakra.

You're trying to be logical and you're not. If you weren't trying to say Sasuke wins, then you would have agreed with Exxar. Sasuke, not even Nagato could handle a whole Edo army + DSM Kabuto and his chakara reserves are higher than Sasuke's

My point makes plenty of sense. You keep saying Sasuke can stop the attack because he already saw it. Naruto saw CT and couldn't stop it again. Whether he has anything in his arsenal or not is invalid. Like I said, just because you see an attack doesn't mean you can stop it (you've done nothing but prove my point anyway)

*Sigh* Kabuto has Jugo's NATURAL ABILITY to gather nature energy. Nature energy is what fuels sage mode...
 
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