[Theory] Zeref , Acnologia, Igneel and Natsu

[24 12 11 to troll]

I would like to start off by questioning you...
Can a Dragon live for 400 years?
- I doubt it.

So what connection do all the four Characters have with eachother , I believe there is more to it than meets the eye.

-Acnologia became the Dragon king , Igneel was a previous Dragon king , he is still alive which means that he may have been Dethroned by Acnologia. But how does a Dragon live for 400 years or more? I find it highly improbable.

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-Natsu and Igneel are basically an adoptive family.

-Zeref has a connection with all three...

Acnologia was around four hundred years ago. Along with Zeref. Along with Igneel , the proofs:
Acnologia:

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as said by Zirconis , a four hundred year old Dragon (also passed through the gate to reach the present day , which consolidates his story of Acnologia)

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Igneel:

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He knew Atlas Flame , A Dragon whom traveled four hundred years from his time , Just like Zirconis.

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the fact that friendship is so significant in fairy tail and the fact Natsu is friends with Atlas Flame whom is friends with Igneel means that the trio will all play a significant part of the story.

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Now here is the interesting part:
Zeref said this to Natsu:

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A very father like thing to say , and over a 400 year time gap! We know Zeref was resurrected , but how does he know of Natsu from over 300 years before his "birth"?.

Time travel.

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The eclipse project was probably an ancient Magic the Humans used to try and Escape the Dragons terror , Acnologia could have killed all of them. Igneel may have fleed with Natsu (along with every other living dragon slayer) , this is why Dragon slayers where not seen for hundreds of years , and named as an Ancient Magic. Until recently.
Afterall it is how the 7 dragons got into the current time. Acnologia may have followed them , i highly doubt a Dragon could live that long , they all died out because of Dragon slayers , so Acnologia killed them. The only dragon slayers left could have been Natsu,Wendy and Gajeel. The dragons fled to another time , and Acnologia followed , the dragons left them in fear that Acnologia could kill their children before it was time for THEM TO TAKE DOWN Acnologia.

And the time travel explains this statement from earlier:

Zeref said this to Natsu:

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A very father like thing to say , and over a 400 year time gap! We know Zeref was resurrected , but how does he know of Natsu from over 300 years before his "birth"?.

Zeref was Natsu's father. It kind of makes sense ; quite a Cliche thing for the Main hero to be related in some way to the main villain, only to find out towards the end of the series. Zeref left Natsu in the hands of Igneel , the current dragon king of the time , he appears to be caring and would protect his son from even himself and hope his son saves the world from him in future , as the only blood relative he is the only one who can kill Zeref , there has to be a weakness in whatever he did making him almost immortal and i believe that is the loop hole.

And to finally top it off to back up my claim:

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, I believe Zeref is too strong to worry about Acnologia ; he is almost invincible ; Acnologia may be untouchable to everyone else ; this is why he fears Acnologia... Acnologia was hunting HIS SON NATSU.

Thanks for your time

If you don't believe me... just think what your father would say if he last saw you as a baby.... "I missed you" , "You've grown" , things like that.

 

[Sir Blades]

That was interesting but i doubt that is true.

 

[King Of Crows]

Wtf .... Dragons can obviously live for 400 years, they're not exactly human or normal creatures you know ?
Igneel was never the Dragon King, it's been stated he was the FIRE Dragon king however, which means their are Kings/Queens of other elemental dragons.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Wtf .... Dragons can obviously live for 400 years, they're not exactly human or normal creatures you know ?
Igneel was never the Dragon King, it's been stated he was the FIRE Dragon king however, which means their are Kings/Queens of other elemental dragons.

correct. which where ALL DETHRONED by Acnologia. Igneel included.

 

[debrr07]

Wtf .... Dragons can obviously live for 400 years, they're not exactly human or normal creatures you know ?
Igneel was never the Dragon King, it's been stated he was the FIRE Dragon king however, which means their are Kings/Queens of other elemental dragons.

yh what he said ^^^ and I think you're looking too much into the 'you've-grown-up' statement by Zeref although I do wonder how he knows Natsu

 

[Ōkami]

Who says dragons can't live for four hundred years?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Who says dragons can't live for four hundred years?

Japanese Mythology says so.
EDIT: People are so fixated on the age of dragons that everyone forgets about everything else this thread talks about , time travel and genetic relations and why ALL DRAGONS and ZEREF fear Acnologia even though they can beat him in teams

 

[Olorin]

Japanese Mythology says so.

ive always though of fairy tail being japanese only by its language

wizards, knights, spells, dragons, even city designs it all seems kinda middle ages europe based or something even the word fairy tail kinda celtic

igneel wasnt the dragon king, he was a fire dragon king and yes you already said above he was fire and still dethroned but in your OP you write he was the one and only king like acnologia is (or thats how it reads)

why cant dragons live for 400 years, for all we know they can live for thousands of years

Natsu could be Zerefs son, Zeref could easily be 400 years old and you could easily add everything up without time travel

 

[Noni]

Wow this theory was awesome bro
You could be right.
I always wondered how zeref and natsu were connected

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

ive always though of fairy tail being japanese only by its language

wizards, knights, spells, dragons, even city designs it all seems kinda middle ages europe based or something even the word fairy tail kinda celtic

igneel wasnt the dragon king, he was a fire dragon king and yes you already said above he was fire and still dethroned but in your OP you write he was the one and only king like acnologia is (or thats how it reads)

why cant dragons live for 400 years, for all we know they can live for thousands of years

Natsu could be Zerefs son, Zeref could easily be 400 years old and you could easily add everything up without time travel

Fair point ; i thought the picture of Igneel literally stating he was the Fire dragon king would make it clear i knew there where probably more Dragon royals (Unless the dragon kings title was placed with their type before , meaning only one dragon king , Acnologia is the dragon of the Apocalypse (possibly the Apocalypse dragon king , each dragon king could just be named after their Magic but only have one at a time , on the contrary there could be multiple dragon kings at one time like most people believe.
Zeref died and was resurrected , he is not 400 years old but he is ; physically he is early in his 20's/ early 30's after the time skip.

 

[Hori]

Amazing thread... Although it would be strange to know that Zeref has a son who is Natsu. I wonder why Zeref was staying in Mavis's grave?... You don't mean to tell me Natsu is Mavis's son?

 

[alex11]

I AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME PARTS but i have a question?? if that was the case why the hell DID ZEREF HELPED ACNOLOGIA TO BECOME A DRAGON???

 

[Hori]

I AGREE WITH YOU IN SOME PARTS but i have a question?? if that was the case why the hell DID ZEREF HELPED ACNOLOGIA TO BECOME A DRAGON???

To buy Natsu, Igneel and other fodders to escape to the future

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

To buy Natsu, Igneel and other fodders to escape to the future

Did Zeref make him a dragon? I thought Acnologia became a dragon from being too powerful in a human body with dragon slayer powers ; (maybe I missed that if it is true)

 

[King Of Crows]

Did Zeref make him a dragon? I thought Acnologia became a dragon from being too powerful in a human body with dragon slayer powers ; (maybe I missed that if it is true)

Yes, Zeref did. It was a teach effort between the two though. Acnologia slayed dragons, and Zeref casted the spell to turn him into one whilst he bathed in their blood.

 

[Lizeron]

Personally, I would say 'you've grown' to any kid I know that I hadn't seen in years. What exactly prevented Zeref from seeing Natsu in the past? Cause I see alot of theories about deeper connections between Zeref and Natsu and everyone seems to exclude the 'I was talking to Igneel about something important and he told me about Natsu' x3!

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Personally, I would say 'you've grown' to any kid I know that I hadn't seen in years. What exactly prevented Zeref from seeing Natsu in the past? Cause I see alot of theories about deeper connections between Zeref and Natsu and everyone seems to exclude the 'I was talking to Igneel about something important and he told me about Natsu' x3!

Ummm this thread answers your question....

 

[Mateush]

Wonderful theory. Zeref as Natsu's father and Mavis as his mother (or at least someone relative to him). Mavis managed to put Zeref to sleep in that island O_O

This theory should include Mavis as well. She was able to save all from Acnologia and Zeref was "sleeping" in her island.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Wonderful theory. Zeref as Natsu's father and Mavis as his mother (or at least someone relative to him). Mavis managed to put Zeref to sleep in that island O_O

This theory should include Mavis as well. She was able to save all from Acnologia and Zeref was "sleeping" in her island.

Yeah , we need to learn more about Mavis ( in my opinion) before i can theorize on her , I don't think she was around that long ago ; maybe two hundred but not four hundred

 

[Mateush]

Yeah , we need to learn more about Mavis ( in my opinion) before i can theorize on her , I don't think she was around that long ago ; maybe two hundred but not four hundred

Could be.

She knew how to "stop" the time for all Fairy Tail members. She can still be around even now, so she is extremely old so to say.