Madara and Hashirama (VotE) vs Akatsuki

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God hate writing on phone. I will easily clears these up when i get home. To much work on phone

:sy: And you are still doing it.

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That is the dome that tanked Bijuu Dama's explosion. Hashirama made this before the explosion hurt him. Wood God was never referred to or mentioned here. What are you even talking about?

That is the dome that will effortlessly tank GSB. Not like GSB has the feats to destroy Wood God anyway.
 

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:sy: And you are still doing it.

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That is the dome that tanked Bijuu Dama's explosion. Hashirama madghe this before the explosion hurt him. Wwood God was never
referred to or mentioned here. What are you even talking about?

That is the dome that will effoessly tank GSB. Not like GSB has the feats to destroy Wood God anyway.

Whats so confusing.
Wood god uses tbb as a rasengan
It clashes on sassano
It tbb explodes
Wood god gets destroy
Hashi cover himself from e aftershock with a dome.
Idk why you keep implying it took it full on.
So again no contradiction
 

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Whats so confusing.
Wood god uses tbb as a rasengan
It clashes on sassano
It tbb explodes
Wood god gets destroy
Hashi cover himself from e aftershock with a dome.
Idk why you keep implying it took it full on.
So again no contradiction

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The explosion that destroyed Wood God is the same exact explosion that the dome blocked.

Hashirama was in the immediate explosion range of the Dama.


And the Dome protected him from the full on explosion. Not the ball hitting it, though its not like Wood God was destroyed by the ball hitting it either.

What is this aftershock fanfiction nonsense you pulled out of your arse? Hashirama used the dome to block the EXPLOSION ITSELF. TBB's explosion damage is greater than the damage caused by the ball hitting the target by far.

This is as simple as I can explain it, if you don't get it then its hopeless.
 

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How can either Hashi or Madara beat Obito? Kamui. He just phases through all their attacks and sucks them in. Game over.
 

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Madara & hashi win low/mid dif, Itachi/Nagato provide hard work, if itachis susano uses its sword well, who knows.
 

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Clearly your not reading my post right.

Clearly you aren't reading the manga correctly. You clearly said in your post that he didn't directly block the Bijuu Dama's explosion, despite the manga showing that he did.
 

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Clearly i was talking about wood god and woof style in general if you re read them
 

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Clearly i was talking about wood god and woof style in general if you re read them

Wood God is completely irrelevant to me claiming a Mokuton Dome can tank GSB, which is how this discussion started.
 

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C4 disintegrates them.
lol i thought hashi and madara were supposed to be complete badasses. but all these comments are like "they ahve to use their most powerful moves immediately off the bat to win". if they are really so powerful this is like freeza using 100% final form on nappa and raditz.

Completely baseless, you have provided no evidence of this being true, especially when gas, which is much thinner than nano bombs was blocked.
when was gas blocked? mei's boil release melted right past it

Hashirama & Madara are 'titans' in a class of their own.Once Nagato and Itachi falls the remnants get demolished in a simple matter of minutes.
those "titans" are up against many many hax ninjas and cant survive C4 if they dont know about it and if its the first thing deidara does

although i do believe YM is indestructible
nothing is. yata mirror is featless

and they're all slow except A
i see so if your kage level and one of the strongest humans ever that means your slow

Considering their size (people are an ant compared to the perfect Susanoo and Kyuubi, Kyuubi has the size of a cat compared to the Shinshuusenju that is towering mountains) such as their destructive power, it is just ridiculous to believe in a victory for Akatsuki
having bigass shit doesnt mean you beat akatsuki since they have nagato who can fly, obito whos untouchable and deidara who can disintegrate you on the cellular level

Most of the Akatsuki are nothing more than fodder for them; in a 1on1 either Madara or Hashirama would beat them no difficult without using their strongest techniques
no they cant and no they arent

Do I have to remind you that Shinobi like Muu at his prime
how was mu at his prime? that fight was literally decades before mu's actual death since he knew tobirama well and fought against him when he was known as second hokage

the young Oonoki as a support were trash in front of Madara
they didnt have jinton and were caught off guard since they thought madara was an ally.

who was only toying without using the Susanoo?
of course he used it. otherwise onoki would be like "why did you go easy on us" back in 560 when madara first revealed it

It's not hard to see that any Akatsuki member apart from Tobi, who teleports himself, will get one shotted by every of them
how are they oneshotted? they can just spread out and make madara and hashi divide attentions till C4 is ready

Firstly, Madara starts to go on rampage with the perfect Susanoo
you do know theres an interval before he can enter that. its not instant

People probably don't understand on what a devastating level Madara and Hashirama remain.
destructive capacity means nothing to obito, and nagato. how are bijuudamas doing anything to preta path? nagato > madara


Shinsuusenju and PS tower over Deidara and his puny bird,
just means they are too fukin slow to hit him

not to mention PS's attacks destroy Mountain Ranges. Deidara isn't escaping them.
doesnt need to. team 1 dies as soon as C4s ready. and from what the madara fans are saying theres no reason why madara would pull out his last resort move IMMEDIATELY. not when he has all this other shit

If he had used PS from the start he would have raped them
so you admit it requires 100% full power madara to win?

The fact that he used techs with less firepower to obliterate them shows that PS would have raped them.
when did he damage them without PS?

PS smashes all things in the universe as stated by Madara himself, so
but not wood?

When Obito teleports he becomes tangible. Once he becomes tangible in FTW's area he breathes in the pollen and falls asleep.
why would he be breathing in the milisecond it takes for him to suck himself up? maybe he breaths in a particle or two but we dont know how much you need to inhale to fall asleep or if you even will if you have senju cells

Warp Madara while he's in Susanoo?
so kamui cant walk through it?

Flower Tree World + Bunshin shit on Obito.
obito, the guy who knows basically everything doesnt know about this and has a counter?

if Flower Tree World is used, how will Obito come out of the ground and go after Madara without being affected by the pollen?
exactly. if. when is it that hashirama and madara figure out only this one tech can stop their opponent? and if they figure it out, FTW will have already affected obitos allies too and hed realise whats happening and hold his breath til he sends his mouth and nose back to the other dimension.

Madara solos.
Hashirama Solos.
cant stop nagato and obito.
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Madara - PS. Countless slashes blow them the **** away.
if madara had the ability to spam PS slashes he would have vs hashirama. and he would have killed the guy by now since by hype it "smashes all things". and its really too bad because bigass explosions dont affect obito

A few more slashes and itachi and obito die
from what?

Hashi - Bringer of darkness. Everyone but obito and itachi don't even know where the **** he is.
never shown to affect multiple targets and if it does, it affects the USER too. also if this is so fukin badass where was it in VOTE

Now, deidara is killing his entire team while obito and itachi fight mokuton bushins.
no one said they have to keep every team member alive to win

Konan? Lol.
MS Obito is fodder to these guys, he has ZERO firepower and Kamui isn't enough to take both of them out.
MS obito crushes them. he should have kyuubi on his side and kamui is the ultimate defence. he can sit back and let the other two exhaust themselves or try to go all out right away. whereas he has izanagi in his back pocket. a double perfect one actually. so that literally means hes immortal for 20 minutes. and the moment they stop spamming their powerful moves, obito moves in and warps them

Deidara's bombs are fodder to them.
C4 makes them vanish into dust. since its not IC for the almighty madara to use susano immediately against "fodders"

1 Sword Slash that destroyed Mountain Ranges would wipe them out during Nagato's 5 second time limit.
not spammable as shown in VOTE

Flower Tree World would take out anyone who can't protect from it or fly away. (Hidan, Kakuzu, Kisame, Obito
and yet couldnt beat madara and onoki

1 Sword slash and anyone who can't protect from it would die
despite its zero speed feats?

Imo, the differences in strength are so great that it's even ridiculous to compare. The perfect Susano'o along with Kyuubi and Shinsuusenju, the Akatsuki would get fodderized.
kisame gets stronger the more powerful his opponent is so thats the worst thing you could do

they have nothing to stand up to a kurama shooting Ps bijuu-damas,
preta path...and GSB

, let alone shinshuusenju
is just punching. kisames immune with water dome and obitos immune with kamui

EMS Madara PSS + Kurama could solo
he has nothing to stop kisames techs with, or obi's

hashirama can outlast kisame
not possible. if you use chakra, kisame will take it

as we know obito have only 1 phase only attacking or only defending do u think he can cast kamui on sage hashirama or ems madara
yes

as we know madara know all obito weakness so its gg!
so VOTE madara is a time traveller? he knows about people who werent even born at least 40 years in teh future?

dont forget hashirama defeated EMS madara with kurama and susano together and also madara is powerfull enough to defeat 1 army alone!!
yes i do. C4.
 

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Qoute me on that claim i said

What? I am the one who said GSB is tanked by Mokuton. What claim are you talking about? Do you even know what we're debating about anymore?

Yeah, I think we're done here.
 

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dont want to believe your dodging at this point. Just quote me and nnot worry bout me again
 

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It isn't since he's never done it, and the main point is whether he'd have space to become tangible. If there's no space to become tangible, he can't warp madara.
Why does no one ever factor in the fact that obito has to be out of kamui to start warping someone?

????

its obvious that there is space inside susanoo, plenty of space
 

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dont want to believe your dodging at this point. Just quote me and nnot worry bout me again

What the hell are you talking about? If you don't even realize what utter nonsense is coming out of your mouth and can't follow a debate then by all means, don't reply and stop wasting my time..

We're done here.
 

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Why do people keep saying GSB. It only works under water. Why would madara/hashi stand under water when they can just sit 150 feet above it...

You're wrong.

GSB:

Going by the description of the technique, using something like giant giant constructs like perfect Susanoo would be countered and only make the technique grow stronger if it hits.
 

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What the hell are you talking about? If you don't even realize what utter nonsense is coming out of your mouth and can't follow a debate then by all means, don't reply and stop wasting my time..

We're done here.

Through out the latest post you keep claiming that I was contradicting the manga the whole time I was too focus on trying to clear up my claims and asking you to bring them up. Thats why I read your last post wrong, I didnt know you drop the contradiction claims out the door. Anyway I wide awake now and will be re read my post.


-Bijuu Dama destroying the Mokuton dome.
Already posted a scan that shows the dome tanking Bijuu Dama, but you reply telling me it was destroyed.

Never made a claim of Dome was destroyed after reading my post again (Starting from page 5). So I didn't contradict nothing.


-C4 getting past Susanoo.
Completely baseless, you have provided no evidence of this being true, especially when gas, which is much thinner than nano bombs was blocked.

The evidence was oxygen. Oxygen is still able to pass through Sussano. Nano bombs are actually a lot smaller the and lighter then corrosive gases. I'm not science expert but clearly it doesn't take a electron microscope to view the gas as its clearly visible to the naked eye as those smaller then your red blood cells aren't.

Gas will be blocked but Nano Bombs won't? Hilarious.

Oxygen is consider gas. Oxygen is lighter then corrosive gas. So are the Nano. Correct me on science if anything.

-Obito being able to go inside Susanoo and warp Madara out.

Again, false as I showed two scans of Sasuke having to adjust Susanoo to let Zetsu in.

And I also post scans doing it by force. So no condradiction I will also added more proof that Obito is fully capable:

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As you can see Obito made a Kamui worm whole even when consumed by paper. This example can be the same replica from the chakra of Sassanoo. Even if you ignore where there is space for opponent to go in, Obito still just warps Mardara and whatever piece of Sassanoo chakra with him.


-Madara can't protect Hashirama and Kyuubi with Susanoo when he has already displayed the ability to shapeshift his Susanoo.

Baseless assumption. All you said was "No, its not possible" with ZERO proof.

Stop contradicting manga fact. Stop making baseless assumptions.

Your claim was baseless when you claim he can use Sassanoo on someone more then once. So lets go down in detail on how that is wrong. First Madara has already shown that he has to rebuild Sassanoo and not make it replacable:
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Instead of replacing himself another Sassanoo he resulted using the Rinnegan to absorb the incoming attack instead. Then:
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Sassanoo deconstructs.

Now to clear up the the Kyuubi situation:
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Madara was shown that he was protecting Kyuubi with Unstable PS, As it was in front. Then:
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He finally stabilized it on Kyuubi. You also notice that Madara is in his PS station along with the Kyuubi.

So no my claims were not baseless as yours was actually, to claim he can construct another armor cloak.
 

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Through out the latest post you keep claiming that I was contradicting the manga the whole time I was too focus on trying to clear up my claims and asking you to bring them up. Thats why I read your last post wrong, I didnt know you drop the contradiction claims out the door. Anyway I wide awake now and will be re read my post.




Never made a claim of Dome was destroyed after reading my post again (Starting from page 5). So I didn't contradict nothing.

Dome tanks GSB. I'll leave it at that.




The evidence was oxygen. Oxygen is still able to pass through Sussano. Nano bombs are actually a lot smaller the and lighter then corrosive gases. I'm not science expert but clearly it doesn't take a electron microscope to view the gas as its clearly visible to the naked eye as those smaller then your red blood cells aren't.
Oxygen passed through but the Corrosive Gas was still blocked, that alone nullifies your point as 1 gas was blocked while the other wasn't.

How many times are you going to bring up the size when the size doesn't matter. Nano Bombs are small but still have a physical form. Gas may be visible but it does not have a physical form. Its obviously harder to block something with no physical form than something with a physical form, saying otherwise is completely retarded.


As you can see Obito made a Kamui worm whole even when consumed by paper. This example can be the same replica from the chakra of Sassanoo. Even if you ignore where there is space for opponent to go in, Obito still just warps Mardara and whatever piece of Sassanoo chakra with him.

Read the manga scan you just posted. Obito waited till there was an opening for him to become tangible and begin the warp hence him saying "Now!" in the middle right panel, and the panel it self clearly shows that the paper is surrounding him in that instance and not phasing through him. Point invalid as manga disagrees.

Your claim was baseless when you claim he can use Sassanoo on someone more then once. So lets go down in detail on how that is wrong. First Madara has already shown that he has to rebuild Sassanoo and not make it replacable:
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Instead of replacing himself another Sassanoo he resulted using the Rinnegan to absorb the incoming attack instead. Then:
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Sassanoo deconstructs.


Now to clear up the the Kyuubi situation:
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Madara was shown that he was protecting Kyuubi with Unstable PS, As it was in front. Then:
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He finally stabilized it on Kyuubi. You also notice that Madara is in his PS station along with the Kyuubi.

So no my claims were not baseless as yours was actually, to claim he can construct another armor cloak.

Not sure if serious. Where did I say he would make two PS's to coat himself, Kyuubi and Madara? Did he make another PS to coat the Kyuubi when he was fighting Madara? No. Your point makes no sense because you are trying to refute something that wasn't even stated.

Madara and Hashirama are both in the diamond on the forehead of PS while the Kyuubi is cloaked with it. Susanoo users have already shown the ability to drag others into their Susanoo.



Thus Madara can and will do the same with Hashirama. Or Hashirama makes a Mokuton Dome to protect from C4, either way, it isn't taking them out.
 

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Through out the latest post you keep claiming that I was contradicting the manga the whole time I was too focus on trying to clear up my claims and asking you to bring them up. Thats why I read your last post wrong, I didnt know you drop the contradiction claims out the door. Anyway I wide awake now and will be re read my post.




Never made a claim of Dome was destroyed after reading my post again (Starting from page 5). So I didn't contradict nothing.




The evidence was oxygen. Oxygen is still able to pass through Sussano. Nano bombs are actually a lot smaller the and lighter then corrosive gases. I'm not science expert but clearly it doesn't take a electron microscope to view the gas as its clearly visible to the naked eye as those smaller then your red blood cells aren't.



Oxygen is consider gas. Oxygen is lighter then corrosive gas. So are the Nano. Correct me on science if anything.



And I also post scans doing it by force. So no condradiction I will also added more proof that Obito is fully capable:

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As you can see Obito made a Kamui worm whole even when consumed by paper. This example can be the same replica from the chakra of Sassanoo. Even if you ignore where there is space for opponent to go in, Obito still just warps Mardara and whatever piece of Sassanoo chakra with him.




Your claim was baseless when you claim he can use Sassanoo on someone more then once. So lets go down in detail on how that is wrong. First Madara has already shown that he has to rebuild Sassanoo and not make it replacable:
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Instead of replacing himself another Sassanoo he resulted using the Rinnegan to absorb the incoming attack instead. Then:
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Sassanoo deconstructs.

Now to clear up the the Kyuubi situation:
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Madara was shown that he was protecting Kyuubi with Unstable PS, As it was in front. Then:
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He finally stabilized it on Kyuubi. You also notice that Madara is in his PS station along with the Kyuubi.

So no my claims were not baseless as yours was actually, to claim he can construct another armor cloak.

lol

I'm sorry, but are you trying to say that those nano bombs, which are the same size as red blood cells, which are thousands of times bigger than atoms, are smaller than gas atoms themselves? lol

I just... I don't know. That's almost sig worthy. I feel dumber after reading that.
 
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