Is everything really Tobirama's fault?

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Sure he created Impure World Resurrection. But he locked it away and labeled it forbidden. Sure he lured the Uchiha out of the main part of the village and kept an eye on them. But no other true madara showed up and he kept the very sensitive uchiha clan from going mad and running rampant. Though he made mistakes he fixed them and had a good reason.

I hate to go hating on the third but he let orochimaru do what he pleases and let him get away. Allowing orochimaru to use the jutsu against the village and the world. hiruzen then left charge of the darkness of the village to Danzo which gave him power to order the genocide of the uchiha clan. For it was during Hiruzen's reign that the Uchiha staged a coup de tat

Hashirama was too soft. He let Madara get away and became a bigger threat than what he could've been and didn't discipline the village enough. Though he killed him or so he thought.

madara then took advantage of a saddened obito and made him an infamous criminal staging an entire world war. Your thoughts on if you agree or not?
 
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i don't think it's tobirama's fault it's the the fault of madara... that time he became very dangerous even when senju ad uchiha wnted to live happily together ,madara tried to drive them(uchiha) on revenge and destroy village .

so i think tobirama didn't do any wrong ,he did it for village ... its madara who forced him to do it.
 

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Yes, it was all Tobirama's fault. He indeed created Edo Tensei, which allowed this entire mess in the first place, and making it forbidden, (did he even make it forbidden?) does not absolve that. I mean, the guy is taking human sacrifices to raise the dead as his zombie slaves and he dare calls Madara insanse? What's more, Madara never truly was insane. Even though Uchiha are supposed to lose all reason when the lose the one they love, this has never truly happened. Madara was willing to make a truce with the people who killed his brother but Tobirama just couldn't let bygones be bygones. Then the ostracizing of the Uchiha began. What he did as a precaution to prevent "Madara" only ended up making them revolt. It's like me saying a bottle will fall over and then proceed to kick it down. A self fulfilling prophesy.
 

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Apparently you didn't read the rest. He LOCKED it away deep in the archives where it never would have been used again. Until orochimaru sneaked in and learned the jutsu. and the third let him get away. The sharingan aligns with the person's brain and they become more acceptable to evil. He didn't hate the uchiha clan. He would be suspicious of any who posed a threat. It was sarutobi's fault for giving danzo authority of so much. That's where corruption started
 

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Apparently you didn't read the rest. He LOCKED it away deep in the archives where it never would have been used again. Until orochimaru sneaked in and learned the jutsu. and the third let him get away. The sharingan aligns with the person's brain and they become more acceptable to evil. He didn't hate the uchiha clan. He would be suspicious of any who posed a threat. It was sarutobi's fault for giving danzo authority of so much. That's where corruption started
Like I said, he created it, and it doesn't absolve him of responsibility for creating it. As for not hating the Uchiha, did Hashirama not call him out as a bigot? Did Orochimaru not call him out for his bullshit. Well, I guess he didn't hate them, just feared them. And what you said about the sharingan is bullshit. When an Uchiha who has love loses it, they get an even stronger hatred and the sharingan is merely a symtom. It doesn't make them more aligned with evil or whatever. Who the hell judges what is evil in this world anyway?
 

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One He did label it forbidden and locked away no one should be able to use it ever again. "Narutopedia" you should look at it sometime.Hiruzen was the one that let orochimaru get away and learn the technique Sure the Uchiha had a bad taste in their mouths but hey everyone can't be happy. Hiruzen's reign wasn't any better it was at that time the uchiha wanted to stage a coup. Tobirama gave them a job they would be good at and several subordinates of his were uchihas that surpassed the boundaries of clans and did alot for the village. Not every uchiha disliked him. As for you calling that part bullshit. THe more hatred a uchiha has in their hearts the stronger the sharingan That's what I meant which would make them commit more crimes because they get power from it.
 
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