Dammmnnnn! All the minato hate!

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please elaborate on how minato is dead if he falls under tsukuyomi?? what possible mental damage can do to minato?
Are you serious? Learn the functions of the techniques youre going to speak about. In one second of real-world time, Itachi tortured Kakashi for 72 hours in his Tsukuyomi world. He is free to control the method and duration of torture in his world, and Kakashi himself said he could have killed him if he had wanted to. What makes Kakashi so susceptible to Tsukuyomi but not Minato..?
 

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well minato is connected to his kunai, if he loses connection to his kunais and marks then he knows he has been trapped. He also controls time/space he would be able to get out of it. He has no regrets or nothing to suffer. Itachi's tsukuyomi is mental blow of mental weakness. Sasuke's mental weakness when child was seeing his mother and father being stabbed and killed over and over again. When he got older, itachi created a new fear in sasuke's mind, the fear of losing eyes. Tsukuyomi works best when there is fear and minato doesn't have any of it. He is relaxed, cool headed. Basically tsukuyomi is useless against him
lol.... were was kakashi in this?

itachi controls that world completely, minato has an advantage in other areas dont say he can tank a world that is completely controled by someone else, and in that genjutsu world tehre are ways to manipulate the situation such as making it seem like minato has lost all his chakra via some bs technique created by itachi in the tsukoyumi he would consider taht a reason as to him not being able to teleport. also knowing it is false doesnt give him protection
 

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Are you serious? Learn the functions of the techniques youre going to speak about. In one second of real-world time, Itachi tortured Kakashi for 72 hours in his Tsukuyomi world. He is free to control the method and duration of torture in his world, and Kakashi himself said he could have killed him if he had wanted to. What makes Kakashi so susceptible to Tsukuyomi but not Minato..?
He won't be able to do so easily, because Minato can put pressure on him to the point where even standing still and activating MS is a problem, Minato also has 2 hax defenses, even more hax than yata mirror. First we know he has the kyuubi chakra, which blocked two of the strongest fire type attacks ever seen in the Manga, they also blocked a bunch of kunai, and even the magatama attacks from Madara's susanoo were blocked with no trouble.

This means that Minato doesn't have to watch Itachi quite as hard as someone without KM, because he can tank the majority of his attacks. for amaterasu and Totsuka, Minato has his s/t barrier, rendering both of them useless. Not to mention he is undoubtedly faster than Itachi. this means that he could port out of range, and then use his sensory tech to find Itachi, and reevaluate his plan of attack, should things get hairy.

Susanoo is easily avoided, and in a fight against Minato it is nothing more than wasted chakra. The ball is undoubtedly in Minato's court at this point.
 

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lol.... were was kakashi in this?

itachi controls that world completely, minato has an advantage in other areas dont say he can tank a world that is completely controled by someone else, and in that genjutsu world tehre are ways to manipulate the situation such as making it seem like minato has lost all his chakra via some bs technique created by itachi in the tsukoyumi he would consider taht a reason as to him not being able to teleport. also knowing it is false doesnt give him protection
Minato got stabbed by the nine tail demon fox. Almost all his whole body was pierced but he didn't look that much in pain. I am sure he can handle a few stabs that he knows are fake. Once again, it all depends on the mental strength. Tsukyumi is mental damage. I don't think it would break minato's mental stability. Itachi can't hold tsukyumi for long that in itself is a big danger to him. Kakashi was still alive and breathing. Kakshi's mentality vs minato's mentality strength different. Minato's mentality strength is far superiour than kakashi's.
 
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Minato got stabbed by the nine tail demon fox. Almost all his whole body was pierced but he didn't look that much in pain. I am sure he can handle a few stabs that he knows are fake. Once again, it all depends on the mental strength. Tsukyumi is mental damage. I don't think it would break minato's mental stability. Itachi can't hold tsukyumi for long that in itself is a big danger to him. Kakashi was still alive and breathing. Kakshi's mentality vs minato's mentality strength different. Minato's mentality strength is far superiour than kakashi's.
yes but would he be able to handle the kyubi stabs hapening for 72 hours non stop? no minatos mentality strenght is higher? maybe but show me proof just because he is a kage doesnt mean his is automatically superior at everything.
 

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He won't be able to do so easily, because Minato can put pressure on him to the point where even standing still and activating MS is a problem, Minato also has 2 hax defenses, even more hax than yata mirror. First we know he has the kyuubi chakra, which blocked two of the strongest fire type attacks ever seen in the Manga, they also blocked a bunch of kunai, and even the magatama attacks from Madara's susanoo were blocked with no trouble.

This means that Minato doesn't have to watch Itachi quite as hard as someone without KM, because he can tank the majority of his attacks. for amaterasu and Totsuka, Minato has his s/t barrier, rendering both of them useless. Not to mention he is undoubtedly faster than Itachi. this means that he could port out of range, and then use his sensory tech to find Itachi, and reevaluate his plan of attack, should things get hairy.

Susanoo is easily avoided, and in a fight against Minato it is nothing more than wasted chakra. The ball is undoubtedly in Minato's court at this point.
i was talking about edos. susanoo is no wasted chakra. and what 2 hax defences? teleporting attacks away? is he goan do taht throughout entire fight?
 

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i was talking about edos. susanoo is no wasted chakra. and what 2 hax defences? teleporting attacks away? is he goan do taht throughout entire fight?
well basically, his space time barrier is like a wall that ports stuff to wherever Minato wants it, and it absorbed a huge ass friggin juubi-dama. Basically this means that all of Itachi's strongest ranged attacks are countered. And like I also said, Susanoo limits a user's movements, and Itachi would not want that against Minato, and also, chakra isn't unlimited, it takes time to regenerate. and honestly, if were talking edos, wtf would tsukiyomi do to a dead man?
 

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yes but would he be able to handle the kyubi stabs hapening for 72 hours non stop? no minatos mentality strenght is higher? maybe but show me proof just because he is a kage doesnt mean his is automatically superior at everything.
When finally sees his son, he kept it cool, he kept it cool against kurama the nine tail demon fox ( the beast who took kushina's life, his life, seperated him from his son, the demon responsible for many misfortunes and yet minato speaks to kurama as a friend) when minato got punched by naruto kept it cool, when minato fought obito, he kept a cool head.

Kakashi gets surprise everything something happens. kakashi lost his cool after finding obito, lost his cool after killing rin (fainted) etc etc
 
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When finally sees his son, he kept it cool, he kept it cool against kurama the nine tail demon fox, when minato got punched by naruto kept it cool, when minato fought obito, he kept a cool head.

Kakashi gets surprise everything something happens. kakashi lost his cool after finding obito, lost his cool after killing rin (fainted) etc etc
kakashi fainted due to exaustion
 

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well basically, his space time barrier is like a wall that ports stuff to wherever Minato wants it, and it absorbed a huge ass friggin juubi-dama. Basically this means that all of Itachi's strongest ranged attacks are countered. And like I also said, Susanoo limits a user's movements, and Itachi would not want that against Minato, and also, chakra isn't unlimited, it takes time to regenerate. and honestly, if were talking edos, wtf would tsukiyomi do to a dead man?
perfect susanoo is like a fortress, with yata, and totsuka why does he need high mobility, and being an edo gives you the advantage of physical healing mental trauma/ paralysis for even the shortest amount of time means death.
 

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kakashi has just suffered too much to the point his mental stage is weak.

kakashi is constantly looking for support. Support from naruto and his friends. He gets depressed too quick.
okay...that doesnt mean hes mentally weak hes one of the smartest quick thinking ninjas in nv, he is in a bit of despair the one guilt he had his entire life showd in front of him. If kushina came in front of mianto he'd be shocked too. That doesnt prove hes weak. Tsukoyumi = one of the most powerful genjutsu in existence your saying it like minato's gona brush it off and carry on.
 

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If Shikamaru was able to use his shadow jutsu to help him escape...could it be said that Minato, if caught, could teleport himself far away from Itachi?
 

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okay...that doesnt mean hes mentally weak hes one of the smartest quick thinking ninjas in nv, he is in a bit of despair the one guilt he had his entire life showd in front of him. If kushina came in front of mianto he'd be shocked too. That doesnt prove hes weak. Tsukoyumi = one of the most powerful genjutsu in existence your saying it like minato's gona brush it off and carry on.
he would be shocked but he will not have a mental break down
 
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