kakashi's chakra,stamina and usage of kamui

[kakashi ms]

i know i made this thread before ,but i see a lot people underrate kakashi's chakra,stamina,and usage of kamui
some think kakashi didn't improve since he fought diadra(other since he fought zabuza),some think kakashi's kamui speed didn't improve since diadra
so i decided to make it again in another way


some people say the reason why kakashi was able to use kamui well is kuarma chakra but that isn't real
i'll explain this point first
here kakashi took kuaram chakra for the first time (chapter 609"the end")

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here shikamaru's father named times of kamui which kakashi did with kuaram chakra and the manga showed where kakashi took it for the first time ( as flashback)

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people say kakashi took kuarma chakra when he got in kuarma's cloak(against jinhurki) although the manga showed that naruto put kakashi here to protect him ,and the manga didn't show anything say kakashi took chakra in this time ,if kishi had wanted to do that ,he would have made kakashi say something like (i regain my chakra here)but he didn't
i challenge anyone to give me chapter,page,pic,sfx,...etc that say kakashi took chakra here


here the jutsus which kakashi used before the moment he took kuarma chakra for the first time(chapter 609)
1.raiki on haku

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2.raiki on zabuza

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3.raiki on one of sword men

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1.raiki

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2.shadow clone

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3.light chain

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4.light chain and shadow clone

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5.kamui on gedo's head(big object)
kakashi would have killed the gedo here if obito hadn't protected the gedo

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6.raiki's kunai

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7.kamui on raiki's kunai

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8.kamui on rasingan

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9.kamui on rasingan as trick

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10.kamui on naruto clone(he warped naruto(fast object)without obito who has sharingan note , before the stick hit naruto although it was nearly touching naruto's hair and although he was performing another kamui(on rasingan)

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11.earth wall

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12.kamui on himself

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13.raiki(chapter 608"kakashi's decision"

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kakashi fought for 2 days without stop(may they rested in the night) and with unlock sharingan(for 2 days)
see that (thanks to borgad's thread )

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total
6 kamui(gedo's head,kunai,2 rasingan,naruto clone,himself)
2 light chain
6 raiki(3 against edo sword men)
earth wall
2 shadow clone
unlock sharingan and moving for 2 days (see borgad thread)
imagine how many times can kakashi use kamui without using all this other jutus and without fighting for 2 days?

 

[chancek7]

Make a new thread.

 

[Pragmatic]

Who is didra?

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Kakashi does have alot of stamina now but nothing explains where he got that sudden chakra boost from. At the beginning of shippuden Kakashi could use Raikiri 6 times before he's drained and 4 kamuis for the same affect.

1 Kamui=Shaken
2 Kamuis=Exhausted
3 Kamuis=cant move
4 Kamuis=death

Now its like 6 Kamuis before he even gets shaken.

 

[The7thHokage]

Well, me personally, not that i hate kakashi or claim he hasnt improved, but i say plot no jutsu, just cuz the chakra he dispensed, will wear out anyone, not just Kakashi.

 

[kakashi ms]

Kakashi does have alot of stamina now but nothing explains where he got that sudden chakra boost from. At the beginning of shippuden Kakashi could use Raikiri 6 times before he's drained and 4 kamuis for the same affect.

1 Kamui=Shaken
2 Kamuis=Exhausted
3 Kamuis=cant move
4 Kamuis=death

Now its like 6 Kamuis before he even gets shaken.

kakashi against kakazu used about 6 raiki(on kakazu,2 on kakazu's light,missed one on hidan,1 one kakazu's threads which caught naruto,1 one kakazu in the end),water ,earht jutus and sharingan all time although all that he didn't show any tiring and he even was ready to use kamui

but kakashi improved much in kamui now and i can't say kakashi's improve is plot hole

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

U act as if he could do all this in one fight smh

Also the war proves how little chakra and stamina he truly has he had to be healed twice or 3 times I believe motto mention he got a kurama chakra suit so majority of the feats can't really b countered for instance
When he said he was gonna kamui the jubbi .-. Tht wasn't gonna happen and hypothetically if it did he would only able to make one that big because of kurama chakra

 

[kakashi ms]

Well, me personally, not that i hate kakashi or claim he hasnt improved, but i say plot no jutsu, just cuz the chakra he dispensed, will wear out anyone, not just Kakashi.

you can't name someone's improvement plote hole
it was said in part 1 that sasuke can't use raiki more than 2 times
but if you didn't notce,sasuke in part 2 can use a lot more than that
so you think that is another plote hole and sasuke still can't use raiki more than 2 times
if that then i advise you to see another manga ,not naruto's manga which is fallen with plot holes(with your logic)

 

[Sir Blades]

Nice thread.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

kakashi against kakazu used about 6 raiki(on kakazu,2 on kakazu's light,missed one on hidan,1 one kakazu's threads which caught naruto,1 one kakazu in the end),water ,earht jutus and sharingan all time although all that he didn't show any tiring and he even was ready to use kamui

but kakashi improved much in kamui now and i can't say kakashi's improve is plot hole

Kakashi is known for having low chakra reserves and Kakashi's training during the time-skip was about improving it. In part 1, he said he could only use 4 raikiris before he's out of stamina and after the time skip, he could do 6 before he runs of stamina.

What you said about the Kakuzu fight is the same as the war. Kakashi got a random chakra boost.

 

[Chīkara]

He is a fodder with his borrowed power.

 

[kakashi ms]

U act as if he could do all this in one fight smh

Also the war proves how little chakra and stamina he truly has he had to be healed twice or 3 times I believe motto mention he got a kurama chakra suit so majority of the feats can't really b countered for instance
When he said he was gonna kamui the jubbi .-. Tht wasn't gonna happen and hypothetically if it did he would only able to make one that big because of kurama chakra

i don't say anything about jibi's time in my thread ,i know he was going to do it because of kuarm chakra
the war proved how good chakra and stamina he truly has
read my thread again carefully

 

[-immortal-]

Well Done

 

[Lamb]

Wild guess, but probably the more he comes close to death through chakra exhaustion, the bigger his stamina gets after recovery. Since chakra works like muscles, (the more you use it, the more it grows stronger) his constant involvement in high level fights since shippuden started and him almost giving everything he have in his every fight possibly helped boost his chakra capacity.

 

[kakashi ms]

Kakashi is known for having low chakra reserves and Kakashi's training during the time-skip was about improving it. In part 1, he said he could only use 4 raikiris before he's out of stamina and after the time skip, he could do 6 before he runs of stamina.

What you said about the Kakuzu fight is the same as the war. Kakashi got a random chakra boost.

sasuke part 1 was able to do raiki 2 time only
who said kakashi is known for having low chakra,his hater who say that

 

[Minator93]

Sorry, but this happened in 571

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[kakashi ms]

Wild guess, but probably the more he comes close to death through chakra exhaustion, the bigger his stamina gets after recovery. Since chakra works like muscles, (the more you use it, the more it grows stronger) his constant involvement in high level fights since shippuden started and him almost giving everything he have in his every fight possibly helped boost his chakra capacity.

good point about how did kakashi's chakra improve?

 

[Minator93]

Wild guess, but probably the more he comes close to death through chakra exhaustion, the bigger his stamina gets after recovery. Since chakra works like muscles, (the more you use it, the more it grows stronger) his constant involvement in high level fights since shippuden started and him almost giving everything he have in his every fight possibly helped boost his chakra capacity.

He isn't a Saiyan U_U

 

[kakashi ms]

Sorry, but this happened in 571

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i spoke about that in the start of my thread
people say kakashi took kuarma chakra when he got in kuarma's cloak(against jinhurki) although the manga showed that naruto put kakashi here to protect him ,and the manga didn't show anything say kakashi took chakra in this time ,if kishi had wanted to do that ,he would have made kakashi say something like (i regain my chakra here)but he didn't

the manga didn't show any thing about kakashi took chakra in this time that

here kakashi took kuaram chakra for the first time (chapter 609"the end")

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here shikamaru's father named times of kamui which kakashi did with kuaram chakra and the manga showed where kakashi took it for the first time ( as flashback)

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kakashi didn't say anything about this time neither nor shukakau
this time was only to protect kakashi and gai from jinjuchruki not to give them chakra

 

[htmwall]

well i don't think kakashi left the first battlefield to help naruto and Bee without being treated by medical ninja and restoring his chakra.but still he improved his kamui,and that's a natural thing since any jutsu improves with practice.
also 9 and 10 are the same one,he just made kamui 9 bigger in order to absorb naruto.