(DISCUSSION) Fuuton : Rasen Shuriken questions!

[gjpaixao13]

Well, there is something very odd about this jutsu. It's first showed to us that he uses it like a normal Rasengan, but his own body is also affected as well.
After he learned Sage Mode, he is able to throw the jutsu. So far so good, I thought that the requirement to throw this Jutsu, you needed some kind of nature energy.
But.....When he's with KCM active, he's also able to throw it, he can even create "mini" versions.
So what is it all about? What restrict him from throwing it when he's in normal form?
Other question, is that if it is possible to fuse his wind element with the bijudama...creating a new kind of jutsu just as his own rasengan.

Post your thoughts!!

 

[Blunt]

I can only assume that with KM and SM he is much more durable and has alot more stamina to do so.

 

[Bieber]

He wasn't restricted from throwing it against Kakuza, it's just that he couldn't. RS was only 50% complete at that time. He completed it while in SM because he had more chakra and could practice without hurting himself.

EDIT: Before he got to Kakuza he was training for 24 hours non stop.

 

[htmwall]

he just needed to practice mor in order to perfect it and be able to throw it,that's all.

 

[sky4life]

Well, there is something very odd about this jutsu. It's first showed to us that he uses it like a normal Rasengan, but his own body is also affected as well.
After he learned Sage Mode, he is able to throw the jutsu. So far so good, I thought that the requirement to throw this Jutsu, you needed some kind of nature energy.
But.....When he's with KCM active, he's also able to throw it, he can even create "mini" versions.
So what is it all about? What restrict him from throwing it when he's in normal form?
Other question, is that if it is possible to fuse his wind element with the bijudama...creating a new kind of jutsu just as his own rasengan.

Post your thoughts!!

Bijuu rassengan would be awesome

 

[NagazuDead]

He can't cast in normal form... It's too much for Naruto without sage or KCM. The chakra is the thing

 

[gjpaixao13]

he just needed to practice mor in order to perfect it and be able to throw it,that's all.

So in Pain's Arc, why did he could only use it while in Sage Mode??

 

[Avinash012]

He wasn't restricted from throwing it against Kakuza, it's just that he couldn't. RS was only 50% complete at that time. He completed it while in SM because he had more chakra and could practice without hurting himself.

EDIT: Before he got to Kakuza he was training for 24 hours non stop.

I agree with this guy,,,,,,,,,

 

[Baka Sennin]

i think to throw it he needs to encase it in chakra, whether it's sage energy or bijuu energy makes no difference. obviously it's much harder in base as his chakra pool is lower and it would require insane chakra control, in a mode he's simply better all round

 

[OniITACHI]

Just know the basis dude. . At first he didnt know it could b thrown. .and thats how he injured his arm. .and when he know a way to avoid the injury (by throwing) he know that it will be more effective in that way. .

 

[kral]

Also think about how much control he has now that he has trained with killer bee! I'm betting it has to do with how draining it is in normal state that he doesn't like to use it!

 

[NarutoNerd]

i think that because it is really dense spinning chakra that in base mode he doesn't have the strength to throw it but once in SM or KCM he has enough strength to throw it.

 

[htmwall]

So in Pain's Arc, why did he could only use it while in Sage Mode??

it takes way too much chakra,if he did it out of SM,he'll be drained after two shots and won't be able to fight afterwards,unlike in SM in which he'll just revert to his previous state.

 

[Xlad]

He wasn't restricted from throwing it against Kakuza, it's just that he couldn't. RS was only 50% complete at that time. He completed it while in SM because he had more chakra and could practice without hurting himself.

EDIT: Before he got to Kakuza he was training for 24 hours non stop.

This guy answered your question. About KCM/BM: Rasenshuriken is very difficult to use. The Rasengan itself requires so much training that it was a small Arc in Part 1. Rasenshuriken cannot be easily shaped into smaller sizes, but KCM keeps it from dissipating. Naruto has to keep training an practicing to decrease Rasenshuriken's chakra consumption.

 

[Pragmatic]

When Bee was trying to teach Biju dama to naruto he mentioned its the same concept as the rasengan so I doubt there will be a rasengan form of Biju dama because its kinda already is just a rasengan with tailed beast chakra

 

[gjpaixao13]

When Bee was trying to teach Biju dama to naruto he mentioned its the same concept as the rasengan so I doubt there will be a rasengan form of Biju dama because its kinda already is just a rasengan with tailed beast chakra

That's the point. He could mix his Fuuton with Bjiu Dama and create a new brand OP jutsu do destroy Madara and the Juubi

 

[Ragdollkitty]

From what I remember, Naruto can't use it in base mode because it did cellular damage. I think it could mess up his chakra network if he used it in base mode.

 

[Mellanoma]

So in Pain's Arc, why did he could only use it while in Sage Mode??

He only used it in sage mode due to Sage mode healing him

Remember naruto could not use it in normal mode due to the damage it causes to his Arm

With Sage mode his arm is stronger and heals so he can withstand using the Jutsu.

In kyuubi mode he has insane chakra control so making rasenshuuriken is very easy for him.

As far as him throwing it I believe when he fought kakuza he had an issue where the jutsu would only last a few seconds and he didn't complete it yet so there was no way he could throw it

 

[rollin]

He doesn't throw it in kcm he uses his chakra arms

 

[Xlad]

He doesn't throw it in kcm he uses his chakra arms

I thought he can throw the Rasenshuiken in KCM/BM. He uses chakra arms guided Rasenshuriken to trick the 3rd Raikage because of his high speed.