Tsunade & Minato vs Kisame & Orochimaru

[Micho22]

Who wins
Team 1 Tsunade & Minato
Or
Team 2

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

I'ts basically a Minato vs Kisame

it can go either way

 

[AGoodBoy]

I'ts basically a Minato vs Kisame

it can go either way

Uhh no it isn't. Orochimaru is a bigger force to recon with than kisame, especially because of hydra mode and manda.


OT: Team 2 should take this. Team 1's best strategy is for tsunade to drop a katsuya on minato to constantly transfer chakra so that he can spam jutsu. Minato would have to take on these two monsters alone. Theorectically, due to his hype, he should be able to take them on individually, but together it's a stretch especially since he hasn't shown enough to warrant how he'd do that.

But, In any case, with an almost limitless supply of chakra(from tsunade who was able to help an entire village) minato can prove very troblesome with a bunch of massive toads, FTG, and rasengans + healing (from tsunade) if they ever actually get a hit on him. The hardest thing for team 2 would be to do damage to team 1 due to FTG(minato can easily ftg tsunade with little effort). But like i said, it would be a hard battle for team 2, even with WD since if only 1 person gets out of the dome, minato can FTG himself/tsunade out also.

My vote is Team 2 mid-high diff.

EDIT: This assumes no ET. Else it would be a complete stomp and team 2 wins almost no diff

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Complete stomp if Oro uses ET?

U wot mate?

Who he gonna call?

Featless Tobirama?

The Hiruzen base Naruto could own in his sleep?

Hashirama, who will help Tsunade?

Team 1 stomps.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Complete stomp if Oro uses ET?

U wot mate?

Who he gonna call?

Featless Tobirama?

The Hiruzen base Naruto could own in his sleep?

Hashirama, who will help Tsunade?

Team 1 stomps.

I feel like i'm the only person who even reads the manga...

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Oro clearly says he gave them freewill. Hashi can't rebel if he can't think, so yes, he's going to call hashi. Even without ET team 1 loses unless minato shows more feats.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

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Oro clearly says he gave them freewill. Hashi can't rebel if he can't think, so yes, he's going to call hashi. Even without ET team 1 loses unless minato shows more feats.

Orochimaru can't control Hashirama.

Minato needs to show more feats to compete with the likes of BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke, not Orochimaru. Orochimaru has nothing that can kill Minato.

 

[KidGamer65]

Team 2 wins. As usual Minato can't put Orochimaru down and Tsunade can't beat Kisame.

 

[Shodai Hokage]

Team 2 wins. As usual Minato can't put Orochimaru down and Tsunade can't beat Kisame.

Here is my counter: Orochimaru can't put down Tsunade without the edo tensei and Minato can beat Kisame. :nexus:

 

[AGoodBoy]

Orochimaru can't control Hashirama.

Minato needs to show more feats to compete with the likes of BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke, not Orochimaru. Orochimaru has nothing that can kill Minato.

So the fact that he already controlled him before(chunnin exams) means nothing? He does a personallity tag just like before instead of giving him free will. Your rebuttal is seriously flawed considering it's been explicitly stated that the edo hokage have been given freewill, therefore the know whether or not they want to be bound. If they have no personallity, they can't think. If they can't think, they can't break control.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Team 2 wins. As usual Minato can't put Orochimaru down and Tsunade can't beat Kisame.

But Minato can put Kisame down and Tsunade can defeat Orochimaru ( or at least she can survive until Minato deals with Kisame ).
Team 1 wins if the edo is restricted. If not team 2 wins.

 

[Shodai Hokage]

But Minato can put Kisame down and Tsunade can defeat Orochimaru ( or at least she can survive until Minato deals with Kisame ).
Team 1 wins if the edo is restricted. If not team 2 wins.

Orochimaru's attack is rather poor. He won't overhelm Tsunade.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Team 2 wins. As usual Minato can't put Orochimaru down and Tsunade can't beat Kisame.

Minato has FTG. He controls the battlefield. A Tsunade vs Kisame turns into a Minato + Tsunade vs Kisame in a milisecond, while Oro is half a mile away and has to run back.

Don't underestimate the advantages of instant speed.

Edo Tensei is a non factor since:

1. Orochimaru can't control anything else than a fodder, 10% or something Hashirama
2. Hiruzen and Tobirama are zero.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Minato has FTG. He controls the battlefield. A Tsunade vs Kisame turns into a Minato + Tsunade vs Kisame in a milisecond, while Oro is half a mile away and has to run back.

Don't underestimate the advantages of instant speed.

Edo Tensei is a non factor since:

1. Orochimaru can't control anything else than a fodder, 10% or something Hashirama
2. Hiruzen and Tobirama are zero.

But they can't be killed and they can overwhelm Tsunade. With the ET team one's only chance is the RDS.

 

[Sacrosanct]

If Edo Tensei is allowed, Team 2 stomps.
If not, it really depends on who is facing who; if it's Orochimaru vs Minato and Kisame vs Tsunade, then Tsunade gets snapped up and Orochimaru wins (Team 2 win). If it's Minato vs Kisame and Orochimaru vs Tsunade, I'd say Team 1 could win.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

But they can't be killed and they can overwhelm Tsunade. With the ET team one's only chance is the RDS.

How in the world do they overwhelm Tsunade?

The second they approach her Minato warps to them and seals them.

Tsunade is marked with FTG and neither Kisame nor Oro know this.

The second someone engages Tsunade in melee he gets rasenganed in the face or sealed.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Kisame >> Tsunade
Oro > Minato

Now do the math.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Lol and the Kisame underration continues. Actually, never mind... I totally forgot Kisame and Samehada can't absorb rasengan, tank it, and definitely can't heal from it. :|

Team 2 wins no matter which way you look at it.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Kisame >> Tsunade
Oro > Minato

Now do the math.

Oro > Minato ?

Since when?

And why do you make matchups when Tsunade is marked with FTG and Minato can instantly warp to her and kill whomever she faces?

This match is a pseudo 2v2 because Minato simply controls the battlefield.

I totally forgot Kisame and Samehada can't absorb rasengan, tank it, and definitely can't heal from it.

If Kisame is -hit- with Rasengan he is marked.

He may tank one but he won't tank twenty.

Not to mention, Minato can simply tag Samehada and send it to Konoha, lmao.

 

[Fang King Agito]

If Orochimaru had reanimation, couldn't minato just use the contract seal?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

If Orochimaru had reanimation, couldn't he just use the contract seal?

This, too, but Oro's Edo Tenseis are featless fodders.

Hiruzen's speed's a bloody 3. That's Sakura's level.