Kakashi Uchiha

[blackstar9]

Yea his dna prevents him from being able to get into top ninja contention cuz they speak of his lack of stamina but he is using these uchiha techs as if they are his own. He fought this entire war with the sharingan so thats not really effecting him. He copies 1000 jutsu with the sharingan. To conserve chakra he just closes that eye or puts his headband over it. Lets face it he mastered kumui using it to protection even obito commended him on using that eye. P.S lets not pretend obito is full uchiha he has senju cells and a rinnegan yet kakashi is plain old hatake giving him a run for his money.

Ok now im sure your a kakashi fanboy . Kakashi with the help of gai, naruto , 8 tails . Is giving him a run for his money ! dont pretend kakashi has been doing this alone ! 1000 jutsu mean nothing . how many have you seen him use ? did 1000 jutsu save him vs pein and sasuke no ! it was his uchiha eye that saved him . Lets not pretend like kakashi sharingan use is better than an uchiha . Or that kakashi is in the same class with any note worthy uchiha

 

[Omega]

Ok now im sure your a kakashi fanboy . Kakashi with the help of gai, naruto , 8 tails . Is giving him a run for his money ! dont pretend kakashi has been doing this alone ! 1000 jutsu mean nothing . how many have you seen him use ? did 1000 jutsu save him vs pein and sasuke no ! it was his uchiha eye that saved him . Lets not pretend like kakashi sharingan use is better than an uchiha . Or that kakashi is in the same class with any note worthy uchiha

Fanboys do this SOLO KING SOLO KING, i have used manga facts to support my opinions i havent seen you use one yet so im not a fanboy, anyway yea you said it was an uchiha eye that saved him my point exactly he learned how to use it to perfection if he misses he loses. He doesnt use the other 1000 cuz he is busy using the sharingan he needs to put most of his chakra for that. I understand other people have helped fight obito but if you didnt notice kakashi deduced his abilities the original startegy is centered on kakashi's use of kumui. P.S bee did absolutly nothing before madara came cuz obito had him trapped. Gai had a little taijutsu fught with him but after that it was naruto and kakashi mainly. Give kakashi uchiha blood and sharingan doesnt consume his chakra and he might actually be able to use his 1000 jutsu's

 

[blackstar9]

Fanboys do this SOLO KING SOLO KING, i have used manga facts to support my opinions i havent seen you use one yet so im not a fanboy, anyway yea you said it was an uchiha eye that saved him my point exactly he learned how to use it to perfection if he misses he loses. He doesnt use the other 1000 cuz he is busy using the sharingan he needs to put most of his chakra for that. I understand other people have helped fight obito but if you didnt notice kakashi deduced his abilities the original startegy is centered on kakashi's use of kumui. P.S bee did absolutly nothing before madara came cuz obito had him trapped. Gai had a little taijutsu fught with him but after that it was naruto and kakashi mainly. Give kakashi uchiha blood and sharingan doesnt consume his chakra and he might actually be able to use his 1000 jutsu's

saying kakashi is giving obito a run for his money is fan boy shit ! without others distracting obito kakashi wouldnt have time to figure nothing out . What did you provide manga evidence of ? If your saying kakashi is better sharingan user then uchiha , where is the evidence ? your onlly case for kakashi being betteer then uchiha is that he copied a thousand jutsu ? Out of a thousand he used how many ? I dont see how you proved kakashi is better then uchiha with sharingan !

 

[Omega]

They were just standing still when kakashi analyzed his abilities no one was doing anything. I could have worded that differently Kakashi scratched his mask with a warped kunai thats how kakashi discovered his abilities. Once again kakashi is the center around the strategy without him they have no way of getting obito. even if you cant accept the fact that he uses the sharingan better than uchiha you know damn well its not below a uchiha. He has awakend and made the most out of his ms abilities just like the other uchiha id like to know where he falls below them in skill. Kakashi's only weakness is stamina with the Uchiha blood that weakness would be taken away thus he surpasses the current uchiha

 

[blackstar9]

They were just standing still when kakashi analyzed his abilities no one was doing anything. I could have worded that differently Kakashi scratched his mask with a warped kunai thats how kakashi discovered his abilities. Once again kakashi is the center around the strategy without him they have no way of getting obito. even if you cant accept the fact that he uses the sharingan better than uchiha you know damn well its not below a uchiha. He has awakend and made the most out of his ms abilities just like the other uchiha id like to know where he falls below them in skill. Kakashi's only weakness is stamina with the Uchiha blood that weakness would be taken away thus he surpasses the current uchiha

except fact that he is better then uchiha with sharingan ? you made that up not a fact ! stop trying to act like kakashi is beating obito one on one . second when did kakashi awaken ms . I thought obito awakened it . And like i said kakashi is not in the same league with any note worthy uchiha . he loses to itachi ,sasuke, madara,obito one on one !

 

[blackstar9]

Now dont get me wrong kakashi is an excellent ninja . But saying he is better than uchiha with sharingan is going to far . I like kakashi but kinda like obito was saying during the danzo vs sasuke fight . A battle of the eyes will be won by the uchiha !

 

[Omega]

Did you just hear me say THEIR strategy is centered around kakashi im not saying he is beating him one on one but the only person that was really involved in fighting obito was kakashi and naruto. P.S he one shots Itachi and sasuke with kumui. He one shot the Gedo but Obito brought it back with his own kumui. Anything the size of the hachibi and lower is capable of being one shoted by kakashi's kumui unless they have minato or gated gai speeds. Kakashi's only weakness is stamina you know this, his weakness would be covered if he were born uchiha and no uchiha could probably stop him from winning. obito cant win cuz kumui would be negated and we seen from the previous chapter obito would have got killed. Now if obito used kumui like kakashi does obito would be very hard to beat. I wonder why he didnt just warp Bee naruto and Guy cuz at the time kakashi didnt know he could bring them back from the other dimension, my assumption is he couldnt. You cant counter kumui unless you have speed, or kumui. A uchiha kakashi is without weakness

 

[Omega]

So what do you think of Kakashi as a Uchiha how pwerful would he be in your eyes and who could beat him?

 

[blackstar9]

So what do you think of Kakashi as a Uchiha how pwerful would he be in your eyes and who could beat him?

I dont think of kakashi as an unchiha . I dont think of Ao as a hyuuga . my whole point of all my replies has been that as skilled as kakashi is he is no uchiha . There is a reason the uchiha and senju clans were the most feared . To his credit he uses the sharingan well for a non uchiha . But he cant beat an uchiha in a battle of eyes .

 

[Omega]

I dont think of kakashi as an unchiha . I dont think of Ao as a hyuuga . my whole point of all my replies has been that as skilled as kakashi is he is no uchiha . There is a reason the uchiha and senju clans were the most feared . To his credit he uses the sharingan well for a non uchiha . But he cant beat an uchiha in a battle of eyes .

yea im not saying he is a uchiha with his feats as a non uchiha do agree that if he was born uchiha he would be in top 5 contention and even top uchiha contention?

 

[blackstar9]

yea im not saying he is a uchiha with his feats as a non uchiha do agree that if he was born uchiha he would be in top 5 contention and even top uchiha contention?

Well honestly he has always been a genius . Before being taught by minato his dad the legendary white fang schooled him . He was taught by the best and has always been elite . But when you mention madara , I mean this man was so powerful and feared his name caused a war like 50 years or more after his death . Itachi well kakashi admitted being inferior . Naruto and sasuke are the main characters . Sasuke will surpass madara and naruto will surpass hashirama . Sasuke at a young age has alrady awaken the ems . No uchiha besides madara has done it . So that leaves obito . Obviously obito has the zetsu enhancements rinnegan etc . Its hard to stack up against the elite of elite of the 2nd most powerful clan ever . Besides if kakashi was an uchiha . He would have his own sharingan ,and wouldnt have kamui . Obito would have both eyes so his ms would be more op.

 

[Nature Sage]

saying kakashi is giving obito a run for his money is fan boy shit ! without others distracting obito kakashi wouldnt have time to figure nothing out . What did you provide manga evidence of ? If your saying kakashi is better sharingan user then uchiha , where is the evidence ? your onlly case for kakashi being betteer then uchiha is that he copied a thousand jutsu ? Out of a thousand he used how many ? I dont see how you proved kakashi is better then uchiha with sharingan !

I'm not going to say too much but, "However, because he is not an Uchiha, Kakashi is unable to deactivate it, keeping it covered until needed so not to risk his Sharingan using up a massive amount of chakra that would force him to take an extended bed rest. Because of this, Kakashi only relies on it when he feels it is an absolute necessity. Despite his handicap with the Sharingan, he is very skilled to the point that Itachi Uchiha acknowledges Kakashi's proficiency to most true Sharingan wielders"...

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ijs.

 

[blackstar9]

I'm not going to say too much but, "However, because he is not an Uchiha, Kakashi is unable to deactivate it, keeping it covered until needed so not to risk his Sharingan using up a massive amount of chakra that would force him to take an extended bed rest. Because of this, Kakashi only relies on it when he feels it is an absolute necessity. Despite his handicap with the Sharingan, he is very skilled to the point that Itachi Uchiha acknowledges Kakashi's proficiency to most true Sharingan wielders"...

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ijs.

are you saying itachi said kakashi used sharingan better than uchiha ? I clicked your link and didnt see that

 

[Omega]

Well honestly he has always been a genius . Before being taught by minato his dad the legendary white fang schooled him . He was taught by the best and has always been elite . But when you mention madara , I mean this man was so powerful and feared his name caused a war like 50 years or more after his death . Itachi well kakashi admitted being inferior . Naruto and sasuke are the main characters . Sasuke will surpass madara and naruto will surpass hashirama . Sasuke at a young age has alrady awaken the ems . No uchiha besides madara has done it . So that leaves obito . Obviously obito has the zetsu enhancements rinnegan etc . Its hard to stack up against the elite of elite of the 2nd most powerful clan ever . Besides if kakashi was an uchiha . He would have his own sharingan ,and wouldnt have kamui . Obito would have both eyes so his ms would be more op.

Um no he wouldnt his eye would still get slahed obito would still give him his eye cuz obito would still get crushed and he would still have kumui except he would have uchiha blood. timeline wouldnt change

 

[Varrah]

Masashi still heralds Itachi as perfection, thus Kakashi bearing that title is optimistic thinking. ​

 

[blackstar9]

Um no he wouldnt his eye would still get slahed obito would still give him his eye cuz obito would still get crushed and he would still have kumui except he would have uchiha blood. timeline wouldnt change

If kakashi was an uchiha , he would have his own sharingan . why would obito give him his ?

 

[Omega]

Cuz kakashi would still get his eye slashed protecting obito..obito then gives him the eye still as a present for becoming a jounin cuz kakashi would still be vunerable in that blind spot. They would still go through the same process the story wouldnt change.

 

[Mellanoma]

There was a poll done some time ago on who currently uses the three tomoe sharingan the best and kakashi won by a landslide and I have to agree this is true. This guy even unlocked the MS and as far as attacking with it he is better at using it than obito in my opinion. His accuracy with kumui is unbelievable he also decreased the amount of time it takes him to use it greatly. Now if he could muster up all these feats as a non uchia imagine if he was born a uchiha. He most doubtly wouldnt have the stamina issue the sharingan wouldnt effect his body so bad as it does now. Imo he would be the greatest uchiha and be no doubt in top 5 ninja status.

Dude Itachi Genjutsu raped everybody with his three tome sharingan.

Its just Kakashi uses the Copy ninjutsu aspect of it greatly but everything else Sasuke and Itachi triumphed him

 

[Omega]

Dude Itachi Genjutsu raped everybody with his three tome sharingan.

Its just Kakashi uses the Copy ninjutsu aspect of it greatly but everything else Sasuke and Itachi triumphed him

Not really kakashi can one shot sasuke. Being able to use the sharingan in competition with the uchihas just led me to making this thread i just wonder if he was a uchiha how great would he be cuz he would not have these so called limitations. Ill say Itachi argument is debateable but as far as use he is equal to or greater than sasuke. P.S The second time he and Itachi fought he didnt fall for that genjutsu

 

[shelke]

Venturing that Kakashi unlocked MS or Three Tomoe Sharingan on his own is nothing but a delusional fanboy as all evidence point to the contrary. He cannot and will not ever be the best user of Sharingan before a user with Uchiha Dna. This is set in stone. Other than that, he has a solid set of his own techniques which make him a versatile ninja and together with intelligence and speed, he's a formidable opponent.

But best Sharingan user? Not even close as it goes against Manga canon.