The Sage Wasn't Hax; He Was Literally The Greatest Shinobi

[Booker]

The Sage was the first human to ever utilize chakra. Shinobi now, who have knowledge on chakra, can't even perfect it to the level he did when he has absolutely no knowledge.

This means that even before the Rinnegan, The Sage far surpassed any shinobi of the current era. It's one thing to learn jutsu and chakra; it's another to completely invent it.

No one ever compares to The Sage, even without rinnegan. It's ridiculous to argue otherwise.

 

[Blunt]

He wasn't a shinobi but the rest is obvious.
Creation of all things - Banbutsu Sōzō

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

He's the Isaac Newton of Narutoverse Lol

 

[hixa kuogame]

yeah genma solos

 

[NinjutsuSeeker]

we know nothing, about the sage. Nothing. No one knows where he got his power from, where he learned chakra from. what he knew, he knew nothing. Now you expect me to belive that a simple human beat the ten tails on his own? When I see proof, like facts that have been stated in the manga, then ill believe it. right now, we just go by what we think we know. and all we know is that somehow, he defeated the ten tails, or at least stopped it for a while.

 

[Booker]

we know nothing, about the sage. Nothing. No one knows where he got his power from, where he learned chakra from. what he knew, he knew nothing. Now you expect me to belive that a simple human beat the ten tails on his own? When I see proof, like facts that have been stated in the manga, then ill believe it. right now, we just go by what we think we know. and all we know is that somehow, he defeated the ten tails, or at least stopped it for a while.

Here's your Manga fact;

The Managa states he invented chakra and defeated the Juubi.

 

[NinjutsuSeeker]

Here's your Manga fact;

The Managa states he invented chakra and defeated the Juubi.

lol invented chakra? He would have to be God himself. He was a monk, nothing more. He did not invent chakra. humans, even in real life, are born with chakra. you can say he learned how to use it first, but he did not invent it.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

we know nothing, about the sage. Nothing. No one knows where he got his power from, where he learned chakra from. what he knew, he knew nothing. Now you expect me to belive that a simple human beat the ten tails on his own? When I see proof, like facts that have been stated in the manga, then ill believe it. right now, we just go by what we think we know. and all we know is that somehow, he defeated the ten tails, or at least stopped it for a while.

The details are of secondary importance, the results of his actions are: creating ninjutsu, defeating juubi, creating the moon,etc.

 

[Kαmi]

I don't get why people even try to compare other characters to the SO6P. It's like comparing humans to a God.

 

[Sir Blades]

It must have been very interesting to live with no moon during those ages of the sage.

 

[NinjutsuSeeker]

The details are of secondary importance, the results of his actions are: creating ninjutsu, defeating juubi, creating the moon,etc.

Those details are very important. Telling us he defeated the jyubi is very very vague. Knowing how he dide it is very important. Remember the jyubi is suppose to be this super powerful mass of energy, how in heavens name did he do it? that is something that needs to be known. I don't care what the legends say. I want to actually see how he did it.

 

[Booker]

lol invented chakra? He would have to be God himself. He was a monk, nothing more. He did not invent chakra. humans, even in real life, are born with chakra. you can say he learned how to use it first, but he did not invent it.

Did it say he invented chakra or learned how to use it? Sir Derp can clarify I'm sure, I might be wrong.

The facts though are that he solo'd the Juubi. Also humans do not have chakra in real life.

Those details are very important. Telling us he defeated the jyubi is very very vague. Knowing how he dide it is very important. Remember the jyubi is suppose to be this super powerful mass of energy, how in heavens name did he do it? that is something that needs to be known. I don't care what the legends say. I want to actually see how he did it.

Literally everyone who has mentioned him has stated how he solo'd the Juubi. It doesn't matter how he did it, fact is he did and that's all you need to know.

If anything, it's a testament to how powerful he really was.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Those details are very important. Telling us he defeated the jyubi is very very vague. Knowing how he dide it is very important. Remember the jyubi is suppose to be this super powerful mass of energy, how in heavens name did he do it? that is something that needs to be known. I don't care what the legends say. I want to actually see how he did it.

You want to know the details and yet you deny the greatness of the results of those actions? don't be stupid. Kishimoto will provide the details later, but the fact remains that he was the most powerful Shinobi who ever lived.

 

[NinjutsuSeeker]

You want to know the details and yet you deny the greatness of the results of those actions? don't be stupid.

asking questions is not stupid. I want to know how he did it, cuz for all we know, there is a lot of information that we do not know, that may be relevant to how he defeated the jyubi. Im not knocking what he did. You need to stop being so sensitive and understand what im really trying to say. yeah he beat the jyubi somehow, ok that's nice, im just saying, Im not saying he is the greatest anything, until I know the whole story on how it was done. We have seen the ten tails in action, I know there is more to the story than we have been told. And I stupid for wondering this?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

asking questions is not stupid. I want to know how he did it, cuz for all we know, there is a lot of information that we do not know, that may be relevant to how he defeated the jyubi. Im not knocking what he did. You need to stop being so sensitive and understand what im really trying to say. yeah he beat the jyubi somehow, ok that's nice, im just saying, Im not saying he is the greatest anything, until I know the whole story on how it was done. We have seen the ten tails in action, I know there is more to the story than we have been told. And I stupid for wondering this?

You need only to look at the Moon to know how great he is, you're logic is erroneous.

 

[NinjutsuSeeker]

You need only to look at the Moon to know how great he is, you're logic is erroneous.

Yet you don't use logic yourself? For all we know, that power he used to create the moon was from the jyubi itself. Im sure it can make one if it wanted....point im trying to make without you being a **** about it is, I WANT TO SEE EVIDENCE. I don't want rumors, legends, statements. I want to see, just what he did. then ill be happy.

I llike to ask questions, and investigate, not just jump on bandwagons like everyone else

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Yet you don't use logic yourself? For all we know, that power he used to create the moon was from the jyubi itself. Im sure it can make one if it wanted....point im trying to make without you being a **** about it is, I WANT TO SEE EVIDENCE. I don't want rumors, legends, statements. I want to see, just what he did. then ill be happy.

I llike to ask questions, and investigate, not just jump on bandwagons like everyone else

Evidence? the Moon was created by the Rikudou Sennin, Tobi and Madara both attested to that fact, one directly and one during Obito's flashback. He created it when he was no longer the Juubi's Jinchuuriki by extracting and dividing it into the nine Bijuus and hurled the Gedo Mazo with the sealing stone into the heavens which became the Moon. You have to be completely blind not to see that, anyways this conversation with you is going nowhere, I shall leave you be.

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[MrShhh79]

The facts though are that he solo'd the Juubi. Also humans do not have chakra in real life.


Literally everyone who has mentioned him has stated how he solo'd the Juubi. It doesn't matter how he did it, fact is he did and that's all you need to know.

real life ppl have Chi which can be easily translated to chakra...

and i could have swore so6p did not fight the tailed beast because they were his manifestation... he is the one to split em right? he had control of them w/o fighting him and now naruto has control of them and the 10 tails is scared because he knows its time to go back to so6p....

 

[ReZ]

Yet you don't use logic yourself? For all we know, that power he used to create the moon was from the jyubi itself. Im sure it can make one if it wanted....point im trying to make without you being a **** about it is, I WANT TO SEE EVIDENCE. I don't want rumors, legends, statements. I want to see, just what he did. then ill be happy.

I llike to ask questions, and investigate, not just jump on bandwagons like everyone else

He created the moon on his death bed..Let's take a look on chibaku tensei of Nagato

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now a closer look at the moon..

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There's your difference.

 

[NinjutsuSeeker]

real life ppl have Chi which can be easily translated to chakra...

and i could have swore so6p did not fight the tailed beast because they were his manifestation... he is the one to split em right? he had control of them w/o fighting him and now naruto has control of them and the 10 tails is scared because he knows its time to go back to so6p....

see you have just validated everything I just said. You have a theory on the ten tails that I have never seen before. Which means there are many questions on how he did it, and what the relationship between the two is. We know nothing about how he defeated it. Nothing. Which is all I was saying before.


and PS, there was a time, when it was said that itachi killed his whole clan because he was this evil bastard. There was a time when it was stated that tobi was madara, There was a time when it was stated that people who are in the reaper death seal cannot return. Point is, sayings are nice, but sometimes, they are not the complete truth.