An "Earth Jutsu Any Shinobi Can Do"?

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In the recent chapter, we see all the shinobi performing an Earth Jutsu. How can Shinobi that do not posses Earth chakra perform Earth jutsu? The manga has proved that to perform an Element, the shinobi must have the chakra type/nature of the jutsu, yet we see SHikamaru, Choji and Ino in the image above performing an Earth technique.

was the jutsu queried by Shikamaru, and according to the wiki, it's a B rank technique, which is third on the rank chart. Sasuke can't perform the simplest Wind techniques, because he doesn't have wind chakra, Naruto can't perform the simplest Lightning technique because he doesn't have Lightning Chakra, so how is it possible for persons without Earth chakra to perform an Earth jutsu just by doing the few handseals (Tiger → Hare → Boar → Dog) ?
 
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Beats me, bro. If Kishi did this, there has to be some elasticity with the rules, here...
 

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idk...but i really think and hope that there is more to it....or maybe somehow there is a way you can do a minimal of the style(in this case earth) if it meets certain requirements.(like tsunade and "elctrick element" during her first fight with naruto and kabuto in season 1)..and to be clear...they all could have it we never seen them not have it or not use it...like people thought tobi didnt have a ms.

either way kishi has loads to clear up...lol
 
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It's not that you need earth affinity to actually do the element, doing jutsus that are your elemental affinity simply makes it easier and more powerful, hence why the earth walls made by the alliance were brittle and crass, like Shikamaru said, he was hoping that the quantity of the walls would stop the TBB instead of the quality.
 

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idk...but i really think and hope that there is more to it....or maybe somehow there is a way you can do a minimal of the style(in this case earth) if it meets certain requirements.(like tsunade and "elctrick element" during her first fight with naruto and kabuto in season 1)..and to be clear...they all could have it we never seen them not have it or not use it...like people thought tobi didnt have a ms.

either way kishi has loads to clear up...lol


The wiki does mention Tsunade has Lightning Release (Presumed), and I'm 100% sure that all the shinobi there don't have Earth Chakra.

It's not that you need earth affinity to actually do the element, doing jutsus that are your elemental affinity simply makes it easier and more powerful, hence why the earth walls made by the alliance were brittle and crass, like Shikamaru said, he was hoping that the quantity of the walls would stop the TBB instead of the quality.

I highly doubt that. Rock Lee has Chakra, yet he can't create a pebble if he wanted to, nor generate a spark of fire from his mouth. What you're saying is that any shinobi can use any element, but it will just be very weak? That's ridiculous.
 

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Nope. It's been stated that you aren't limited to your affinity. This ain't Avatar.

Kakashi can do both Water jutsus and Earth jutsus despite only having a Lightning affinity.

Hand seals are a very big factor and I'm glad Kishi actually included that and emphasized it. That's how Kakashi copies other elemental jutsus, from copying the hand seals.
 

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In the recent chapter, we see all the shinobi performing an Earth Jutsu. How can Shinobi that do not posses Earth chakra perform Earth jutsu? The manga has proved that to perform an Element, the shinobi must have the chakra type/nature of the jutsu, yet we see SHikamaru, Choji and Ino in the image above performing an Earth technique.

was the jutsu queried by Shikamaru, and according to the wiki, it's a B rank technique, which is third on the rank chart. Sasuke can't perform the simplest Wind techniques, because he doesn't have wind chakra, Naruto can't perform the simplest Lightning technique because he doesn't have Lightning Chakra, so how is it possible for persons without Earth chakra to perform an Earth jutsu just by doing the few handseals (Tiger → Hare → Boar → Dog) ?

it was never said if you dont have the affinity you cant perform the jutsu/element, as shikamaru stated they arent adapt or dont have the affinity to it so the technique will be weak compared to a person who has the affinity to it.

Examples Rinnegan and sharingan

With rinnegan you can use all 5 elements and master them to

sharingan u can copy and jutsu no matter the element but there affinity aint of those?

you see why do you think kakashi said that when you become jounin you most likely masterd 2 chakra natures
 

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The wiki does mention Tsunade has Lightning Release (Presumed), and I'm 100% sure that all the shinobi there don't have Earth Chakra.



I highly doubt that. Rock Lee has Chakra, yet he can't create a pebble if he wanted to, nor generate a spark of fire from his mouth. What you're saying is that any shinobi can use any element, but it will just be very weak? That's ridiculous.

I remember hearing something about Lee not being able to use his "chakra coils" or not being able to mold his chakra for ninjutsu and genjutsu.

Also, he apparently has 0.5 in ninjutsu on the databooks, implying that although he isn't good at it, it's not impossible for him.
 

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Nope. It's been stated that you aren't limited to your affinity. This ain't Avatar.

Kakashi can do both Water jutsus and Earth jutsus despite only having a Lightning affinity.

Hand seals are a very big factor and I'm glad Kishi actually included that and emphasized it. That's how Kakashi copies other elemental jutsus, from copying the hand seals.

Where has that been stated? Provide proof please. Kakashi can copy several elements because he's in possession of the Sharingan. Performing justsu is much more than just stringing the handseals together.


it was never said if you dont have the affinity you cant perform the jutsu/element, as shikamaru stated they arent adapt or dont have the affinity to it so the technique will be weak compared to a person who has the affinity to it.

Examples Rinnegan and sharingan

With rinnegan you can use all 5 elements and master them to

sharingan u can copy and jutsu no matter the element but there affinity aint of those?

you see why do you think kakashi said that when you become jounin you most likely masterd 2 chakra natures

The Rinnegan and Sharingan are an exception where elements are concerned. The Rinnegan allows the user to use the Basic 5 elements, the Sharingan is the same but it can even allow the user special elements such as Ice Release. That was indeed what SHikamaru said, but I think it's too late in the manga for Kishi to pull off something like this, it's going against the basis that a normal shinobi cannot utilize an element just like that.

I remember hearing something about Lee not being able to use his "chakra coils" or not being able to mold his chakra for ninjutsu and genjutsu.

Also, he apparently has 0.5 in ninjutsu on the databooks, implying that although he isn't good at it, it's not impossible for him.

Rock Lee is capable of using the Inner Gates, which requires some skill in chakra control and molding.
 
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Where has that been stated? Provide proof please. Kakashi can copy several elements because he's in possession of the Sharingan. Performing justsu is much more than just stringing the handseals together.




The Rinnegan and Sharingan are an exception where elements are concerned. The Rinnegan allows the user to use the Basic 5 elements, the Sharingan is the same but it can even allow the user special elements such as Ice Release. That was indeed what SHikamaru said, but I think it's too late in the manga for Kishi to pull off something like this, it's going against the basis that a normal shinobi cannot utilize an element just like that.



Rock Lee is capable of using the Inner Gates, which requires some skill in chakra control and molding.

It was when Naruto was training for his Rasenshuriken and affinity.

Do you have any proof where it's been stated that you're limied to your affinity?

Kakashi copies the handseals. Handseals are there to make a Jutsu easier, they're like crutches to perform a Jutsu. For example, Sasuke's Chidori took a number of handseals to perform in part 1, now Sasuke is capable of performing it without any handseals and has reduced the amount of handseals to perform his fireball Jutsu.

The Inner gates were described as A whole different system when Kakashi explained it in the chuunin preliminaries. Kakashi could only open 2 gates, does that mean that Lee has better chakra control than Kakashi simply because he's capable of opening more gates?
 

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Kishi has been doing wierd shit with the manga...I lost hope in the believable when naruto became a chakra gas station
 

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kishimoto sets limit to the ability of using jutsus only when it comes to naruto:|
 

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kishimoto sets limit to the ability of using jutsus only when it comes to naruto:|

Well that's true. Atleast Naruto did not make an earth-rasengan wall.
 

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Naruto was never good at handseals.
ironic since the first two jutsus he learned in his life,shadow clones and summoning used hand seals,and one of them he learned it on his own.
 

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ironic since the first two jutsus he learned in his life,shadow clones and summoning used hand seals,and one of them he learned it on his own.

The Shadow clone Jutsu only needs one hand seal, whereas I don't remember if he needed many hand seals for his summoning.

What I mean is that he's not good at remembering hand seals, which is why he doesn't have any Jutsu that requires memorizing so many hand seals.
 
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