Hashirama's Modesty

[AlphaScythian]

It's cool, I understand. Black Zetsu did say Itachi was virtually invincible when he saw his Susano. But Itachi also said himself that Madara was invincible. Here's the manga scan.

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Zetsu didnt mean susanoo, but spiritual items, only after he made a comment. Again itachi was lying in order to create a hate towards madara in sasuke. He calls him a mentor but madara himself has no yata n totsuka. Obito didnt actually teach a thing to itachi, and knew his back story from the start.

Lmao, what are you getting at. The manga states a number of times that Itachi did not commit the Uchiha Clan Massacre alone. Obito(or Masked Man) was also involved and claimed to be Madara. Strangely enough, Itachi fell for it and never knew that the real Madara was edo'ed. O_O

Itachi states that(he's great liar), obito only admitted he hated uchiha (i wonder, he still wears their crest thou) Itachi made a deal, I kill uchiha u stay away from village and sasuke (he didnt request the help). Obito never confirmed if he killed some (he could thou) he only collected sharingans.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Zetsu didnt mean susanoo, but spiritual items, only after he made a comment. Again itachi was lying in order to create a hate towards madara in sasuke. He calls him a mentor but madara himself has no yata n totsuka. Obito didnt actually teach a thing to itachi, and knew his back story from the start.
Itachi states that(he's great liar), obito only admitted he hated uchiha (i wonder, he still wears their crest thou) Itachi made a deal, I kill uchiha u stay away from village and sasuke (he didnt request the help). Obito never confirmed if he killed some (he could thou) he only collected sharingans.

I know, that's what I meant by Zetsu saying to Itachi he's invincible upon seeing Susano. They said it because of his possession of those powerful weapons. Plus, we can't be 100% certain that Itachi was completely lying. He may have been mixing truth with lies? Madara may not have Yata or Totsuka but he still has Perfect Susano and the Meteor technique and either of them will destroy or severly damage Itachi's Susano causing him to not be able to use the spiritual weapons properly. The last part about Obito may be true. Only reason how Obito and Itachi know each other was due to their involvement in the Massacre.

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Obito killed the Uchiha's but didn't attack the village maybe because Itachi was aware of the attack on Konoha in which Minato sacrificed himself. Obito could've killed the Uchiha in a similar way to how he killed the Mist ninja upon Rin's death. He never confirmed since then Sasuke would've attacked him. But Itachi himself said and I doubt he would lie about that. Obito killed the Uchiha and took their sharingans. Remember Obito cares for no one now that Rin is dead.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I know, that's what I meant by Zetsu saying to Itachi he's invincible upon seeing Susano. They said it because of his possession of those powerful weapons. Plus, we can't be 100% certain that Itachi was completely lying. He may have been mixing truth with lies? Madara may not have Yata or Totsuka but he still has Perfect Susano and the Meteor technique and either of them will destroy or severly damage Itachi's Susano causing him to not be able to use the spiritual weapons properly. The last part about Obito may be true. Only reason how Obito and Itachi know each other was due to their involvement in the Massacre.

Yet that madara was obito. He could've taught him kamui?

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Obito killed the Uchiha's but didn't attack the village maybe because Itachi was aware of the attack on Konoha in which Minato sacrificed himself. Obito could've killed the Uchiha in a similar way to how he killed the Mist ninja upon Rin's death. He never confirmed since then Sasuke would've attacked him. But Itachi himself said and I doubt he would lie about that. Obito killed the Uchiha and took their sharingans. Remember Obito cares for no one now that Rin is dead.

Obito killing uchiha isnt confirmed. Confirmed that he had grudge and that he accepted conditions. Also sasuke realizes pretty well that it wasnt obito's fault, uchihas fate was sealed. So i find no reason for him to deny or hide a possible fact of him actually killing them. Another 2 cents, obito avoids unnecessary kills

 

[Lilt]

Yes, knowledge and wisdom and judgement.
Black zetsu wasnt just created for the heck of it. He was created to assist obito in achieving the goal. He was created to share knowledge and give answers.
How else do u think black zetsu would even know of spiritual items? Or how he easily analysed kirin? He has info on most jutsus and understanding of how shit works. In comparison white zetsu are simple goofy like hashirama, who knows nothing.

Seriously, don't bother arguing with people about it. I don't; I just remind them.

And they purposefully go full-retard to maintain their delusions. Yet that doesn't change what is.