[Discussion] How would these fights turn out if they happened after the time skip?

[24 12 11 to troll]

1.Kuma vs Zoro?
2.Magellan vs Luffy?
3.Kizaru +Kuma vs Strawhat Crew (this is before Rayleigh gets there)?
4.The 5 Survivors vs Enel (Zoro,Gan Fall,Wyper,Robin,Nami)?
5.Luffy Vs Dalmatian + Momonga?

in my opinion:
1.Kuma wins High diff, with many cut wounds
2.Luffy wins Mid-High diff depending on how severely poisoned he is (if he didnt encounter Magellan before the battle he is not immune to poison)
3.Kizaru and Kuma win... Luffy in my opinion is about as strong as Kuma , but if any one of the M3 don't occupy Kizaru it is instant doom , either way the government dogs win this
4.Enel still wins this ; due to the fact that Zoro(the only one comparable in strength) uses swords... metal conducts the electricity and only makes the battle easier for Enel.
5.Dalmation + Momonga win this Mid-High Diff , at least one of them will be severely injured

 

[Klad]

Zoro
Luffy
Kizaru+Kuma
Enel
Luffy

 

[King Of Crows]

Zoro one shots pacifistas now.... I doubt Kuma will be much harder to deal with than them...

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

1.Kuma vs Zoro?
2.Magellan vs Luffy?
3.Kizaru +Kuma vs Strawhat Crew (this is before Rayleigh gets there)?
4.The 5 Survivors vs Enel (Zoro,Gan Fall,Wyper,Robin,Nami)?
5.Luffy Vs Dalmatian + Momonga?

in my opinion:
1.Kuma wins High diff, with many cut wounds
2.Luffy wins Mid-High diff depending on how severely poisoned he is (if he didnt encounter Magellan before the battle he is not immune to poison)
3.Kizaru and Kuma win... Luffy in my opinion is about as strong as Kuma , but if any one of the M3 don't occupy Kizaru it is instant doom , either way the government dogs win this
4.Enel still wins this ; due to the fact that Zoro(the only one comparable in strength) uses swords... metal conducts the electricity and only makes the battle easier for Enel.
5.Dalmation + Momonga win this Mid-High Diff , at least one of them will be severely injured

1. Hard to tell.
2. Luffy, assuming the poison can't get through Armament Haki.
3. Kizaru soloes.
4. Idk who Gan Fall or Wyper are, so I'll say Enel.
5. Idt I know who Dalmatian or Momonga are, so Luffy, I guess.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

4. Idk who Gan Fall or Wyper are, so I'll say Enel.
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Gan Fall is the old knight (former god) who gave the straw hats the whistle in case of an emergency , he had the horse-bird
Wyper was the last surviving Shandorian in Enel's survival game.(with the overpowered bazooka)

Zoro one shots pacifistas now.... I doubt Kuma will be much harder to deal with than them...

Unlike pacifista's Kuma could:
Teleport
Block almost anything ; i think the kings punch is the limit to what his paws could/can take.
He could act independantly with better reflexes

Ursus Shock and Pad Cannon >>>>>>>>> Pacifista Lasers

 

[shri3kbat]

I agree except the first one. I think Zoro could take him

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Bartholomew Kuma? Kuma would win.

Magellan would still beat Luffy even though Luffy has antibodies now.

Kizaru+Kuma would win mid-low diff.

Enel might win. Not really sure.

Dalmation+Momonga would win

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Gan Fall is the old knight (former god) who gave the straw hats the whistle in case of an emergency , he had the horse-bird
Wyper was the last surviving Shandorian in Enel's survival game.(with the overpowered bazooka)



Unlike pacifista's Kuma could:
Teleport
Block almost anything ; i think the kings punch is the limit to what his paws could/can take.
He could act independantly with better reflexes

Ursus Shock and Pad Cannon >>>>>>>>> Pacifista Lasers

I remember them now! Haki could help them, but idk. I'd still say Enel.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I remember them now! Haki could help them, but idk. I'd still say Enel.

i only agree with you because Zoro uses swords which are metal , if it was Sanji i think the outcome would be very different

 

[Doflamingo Donquixote]

1. Kuma high diff
2. Luffy high diff
3. Kizaru + Kuma mid diff.
4. Zoro low diff . ( Enel was to overconfident with his logia fruit.)
5. Dalmation+Momonga would win high diff .

 

[Pervy Wrath]

1.Kuma vs Zoro?
2.Magellan vs Luffy?
3.Kizaru +Kuma vs Strawhat Crew (this is before Rayleigh gets there)?
4.The 5 Survivors vs Enel (Zoro,Gan Fall,Wyper,Robin,Nami)?
5.Luffy Vs Dalmatian + Momonga?

in my opinion:
1.Kuma wins High diff, with many cut wounds
2.Luffy wins Mid-High diff depending on how severely poisoned he is (if he didnt encounter Magellan before the battle he is not immune to poison)
3.Kizaru and Kuma win... Luffy in my opinion is about as strong as Kuma , but if any one of the M3 don't occupy Kizaru it is instant doom , either way the government dogs win this
4.Enel still wins this ; due to the fact that Zoro(the only one comparable in strength) uses swords... metal conducts the electricity and only makes the battle easier for Enel.
5.Dalmation + Momonga win this Mid-High Diff , at least one of them will be severely injured

I pretty much agree. But don't forget that Luffy's CoA would protect him against the poison, if it's strong enough. Immunity or not, Luffy will take this one, imo.

CoA should also remove the effect of the electricity going through Zoro's sword in his fight with Enel. But he is the only who can touch him, so I still think this goes to Enel. Unless his arrogance makes him lose.

Kizaru + Kuma, I don't know if they would win. Let's say Luffy and Zoro attack Kizaru, then Sanji, Franky and the rest take on Kuma. Sanji has improved a lot, and Franky has his Radical Beam, Robin has her Giant limbs and so on. I think they can take him.
Luffy can't defeat an Admiral, but he can defend himself against one, give him a bit of a challenge. That plus the help of Zoro should be enough until the others are done with Kuma and can help. Still not sure though

 

[MythicDonut]

1. Zoro would win. He's probably strong enough to combat Kuma's ability.

2. I'm going with Luffy, he's should be pretty much immune to Magellan's poison. Though Magellan may have gotten stronger and I personally think he has a good amount of Haki. As a warden in a prison where you're harbouring powerful pirates you should have some at least to combat their Haki. Despite this Luffy should still win.

3. This would be a tricky one. The straw hats would be able to hold their own, it'd be a long fight but if they all thought to their fullest, I mean CP9 fullest, then I think they'd come out on top. Kizaru depsite being a Haki logia is just outnumbered by other strong individuals who can also use Haki.

4. The 5 survivors, Enel was a cocky logia, just like Caribou. Zoro would hack him down.

5. I can't decide. We still haven't seen Luffy fight to his fullest after the timeskip. The Vice-Admirals are pretty strong but then again in the recent manga Bartolomeo took a Vice-Admiral out just a couple of minutes before his match and walked out without a scratch.

Maybe Maynard wasn't on the same level as Momonga and Dalmatian but at the end of the day they hold the same rank and I personally believe Luffy could woop Bartolomeo easy. Therefore Luffy, but I'm still not entirely sure.

 

[Fujitora]

1. Zoro should win this I think. Even though he didn't have haki, he was capable of reacting to Kuma and move in an injured body back then, high difficulty.
2. I feel like this should be a double KO cause Luffy shouldn't be immune to poison.
3. The duo would still win. Although the M3 can hold their ground against a top tier for a lil while now, the other members of the crew can't and they'll be in their way, mid difficulty.
4. Zoro stomps whether or not Enel is cocky. Haki + was able to tank 2 attacks + is much faster, much stronger than Alabasta Luffy.
5. The duo takes this even though they may be a bit weaker than Luffy individually, mid-high difficulty.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

People seem to disregard the fact Enel can use Zoro's swords against him and conduct 200 million volts into his swords if he is hit from close range

 

[ziggyZ]

1.Kuma vs Zoro?
2.Magellan vs Luffy?
3.Kizaru +Kuma vs Strawhat Crew (this is before Rayleigh gets there)?
4.The 5 Survivors vs Enel (Zoro,Gan Fall,Wyper,Robin,Nami)?
5.Luffy Vs Dalmatian + Momonga?

in my opinion:
1.Kuma wins High diff, with many cut wounds
2.Luffy wins Mid-High diff depending on how severely poisoned he is (if he didnt encounter Magellan before the battle he is not immune to poison)
3.Kizaru and Kuma win... Luffy in my opinion is about as strong as Kuma , but if any one of the M3 don't occupy Kizaru it is instant doom , either way the government dogs win this
4.Enel still wins this ; due to the fact that Zoro(the only one comparable in strength) uses swords... metal conducts the electricity and only makes the battle easier for Enel.
5.Dalmation + Momonga win this Mid-High Diff , at least one of them will be severely injured

1. Zoro takes it High-XHigh DIFF
2. You underestimate Magellan way to much. But to answer the question, Magellan = High-XHigh DIFF
3. The former obviously
4. Unless Zoro's black rope dragon twister is Haki imbued and he traps Enel in there and blasts Haki imbued 1080 pound cannons, I say Enel

 

[WhistleBlower]

1.Kuma vs Zoro?
2.Magellan vs Luffy?
3.Kizaru +Kuma vs Strawhat Crew (this is before Rayleigh gets there)?
4.The 5 Survivors vs Enel (Zoro,Gan Fall,Wyper,Robin,Nami)?
5.Luffy Vs Dalmatian + Momonga?

1 = Zoro. Didn't you see what Zoro did to PX-4 , timeskip?
2= Oh dear, please Luffy.
3= Kizaru + Kuma. They need another power-up to be able to take on a admiral.
4= Enel. He was a god. Enough said aha
5= Definitely, Luffy will be able to take them on but not sure if he can take them out hmm

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

1 = Zoro. Didn't you see what Zoro did to PX-4 , timeskip?
2= Oh dear, please Luffy.
3= Kizaru + Kuma. They need another power-up to be able to take on a admiral.
4= Enel. He was a god. Enough said aha
5= Definitely, Luffy will be able to take them on but not sure if he can take them out hmm

why does everyone think a pacifista is even close to kuma's power? he DESTROYED thriller bark , He ONE SHOTTED Little Oz Junior, He in my opinion was at where Luffy is now in terms of strength

 

[tenten fan]

1.Kuma vs Zoro?
2.Magellan vs Luffy?
3.Kizaru +Kuma vs Strawhat Crew (this is before Rayleigh gets there)?
4.The 5 Survivors vs Enel (Zoro,Gan Fall,Wyper,Robin,Nami)?
5.Luffy Vs Dalmatian + Momonga?

1) Zoro high dif
2) Luffy high dif
3) Light man no dif
4) Enel high dif
5) Luffy mid dif

 

[ziggyZ]

1) Zoro high dif
2) Luffy high dif
3) Light man no dif
4) Enel high dif
5) Luffy mid dif

How does Luffy High DIFF Magellan when Luffy's a High TIER & Magellan's a Top TIER?????

 

[tenten fan]

How does Luffy High DIFF Magellan when Luffy's a High TIER & Magellan's a Top TIER?????

is this the on the way in fight or the fight on the way out cause if they both happen luffy would have a tolerance to the poison. And his haki is strong enough to do serious damage no matter what shape magellan is in.