So Kishi wasn't trolling back then!!

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Kakashi wank last week and Minato wank this week....I wonder who its going to be next week?

Hiruzen Wank Lol

 

[Owarij]

Again you are talking about MASS DENSITY which is not WEIGHT. Even if we are talking about MASS itself, they are not the same.

Obviously, we use weight to determine how heavy the size of an object but the truth is if we are using KG for example then we are talking about mass, right? This is misused and misunderstood by many. Since I believe not everyone knows the difference between these two terms then i'd be glad to share this.

Mass is actually a measure of the amount of material in an object (The weight that everyone is reffering to like sizes) while if we talk about WEIGHT (the real definition) it has gravitational force acting on the body mass. This is the reason why we have KG (kilogram) as an example. Since Minato talked about teleportation depends on how BIG the object is then it means that he is reffering to the size or amount of material of an object meaning MASS.

You are referring to the MASS DENSITY which is does not equate to how big or small the material is that's why there is no way for you to answer why Naruto's MASS (weight for others) is lower than Choji's mass.

My example shows that when we hold something with MASS (weight for others) then it will add up to our own mass. Let's just use weight to avoid confusion.

1. If my weight is 100kg and i'm holding 30 kg dumbell then my total weight would be 130. 130 kg determines how heavy I am, right?

2. If chakra has weight/mass, then why it was not added to Naruto's weight and why is Choji heavier than Naruto when we all know that naruto has 50% of Kurama's chakra.

Simple question which can be answered by common sense alone. My example about the 30 kg dumbell and the difference between Naruto and Choji's weight killed whatever claims you have because that example is TRUE while you are just talking nonsense fooling everyone with your terms.

jesus christ,, pure chakra, is just energy.... Mental energy, and physical energy.. when you condense that energy, it forms the tbb, which as orochimaru says, Has density, meaning has mass per volume...

Again you are talking about MASS DENSITY which is not WEIGHT

You DO NOT know what Mass density is... You THINK you know, but you don't know

 

[Telos]

Itachi fans should face that fact that Minato>Itachi based on displayed feats.

 

[KingHashirama]

you 2 up there are confusing Mass density and Weight density.

 

[ajpn920]

jesus christ,, pure chakra, is just energy.... Mental energy, and physical energy.. when you condense that energy, it forms the tbb, which as orochimaru says, Has density, meaning has mass per volume...


You DO NOT know what Mass density is... You THINK you know, but you don't know

when you condense that energy, it forms the tbb, which as orochimaru says, Has density, meaning has mass per volume

Look who's talking shit? Can you formulate that mass per volume of yours? What unit can it give? hey, stop talking shit OWARIJ. If you don't know, the base unit of mass in the International System of Units is kilograms. What does that mass per volume of yours gives? You can only fool fools but on second thought, I don't think you are fooling, it just that you don't KNOW.

Nice try by the way..That gives my fingers some exercise early this morning..got to go..

 

[The Work]

Yup I agree Minato had did a have a boss appearence

 

[Owarij]

Look who's talking shit? Can you formulate that mass per volume of yours? What unit can it give? hey, stop talking shit OWARIJ. If you don't know, the base unit of mass in the International System of Units is kilograms. What does that mass per volume of yours gives? You can only fool fools but on second thought, I don't think you are fooling, it just that you don't KNOW.

Nice try by the way..That gives my fingers some exercise early this morning..got to go..

Wtf? you're blurting out things you don't even know... Density is measured in either the metric or standard units of measurement
and as I said before, is calculated by D=M/V,.....

You're entire argument that the reason the ground cracked and broke under the kyuubi and naruto is because it had high mass density is stupid, and ofc said by someone who has no basic understanding of what the terms mean... mass density doesn't correlate directly with weight.. air can have high mass density and doesn't mean it will cause such a mass.. it just means that PER volume, for it size, it has alot of mass...

when kyuubi ate the tbb, it became bloated and was unable to move anymore, DUE to the PHYSICAL weight of the tbb ..... using density to describe that doesn't even make sense.. when naruto formed the tbb in his hands, the weight cracked the ground.. due to the combined mass of both things.....

3 or 4 people have already explained it.. at this point any further argument will prove futile





@your sig.. .
You do know Kamui is a space time barrier technique right...


Sigh

 

[ajpn920]

Wtf? you're blurting out things you don't even know... Density is measured in either the metric or standard units of measurement
and as I said before, is calculated by D=M/V,.....

You're entire argument that the reason the ground cracked and broke under the kyuubi and naruto is because it had high mass density is stupid, and ofc said by someone who has no basic understanding of what the terms mean... mass density doesn't correlate directly with weight.. air can have high mass density and doesn't mean it will cause such a mass.. it just means that PER volume, for it size, it has alot of mass...

when kyuubi ate the tbb, it became bloated and was unable to move anymore, DUE to the PHYSICAL weight of the tbb ..... using density to describe that doesn't even make sense.. when naruto formed the tbb in his hands, the weight cracked the ground.. due to the combined mass of both things.....

3 or 4 people have already explained it.. at this point any further argument will prove futile





@your sig.. .
You do know Kamui is a space time barrier technique right...


Sigh

Until now, you can't accept truth..mass density is not equal to mass. Mass unit is plain kg (base unit). If we are talking about mass of an object then we are referring to how heavy it is..you understand that right?

at my sig? well who knows? can you give me the exact definition where it says it's a space time barrier? As far as I know, Kamui serves two things, teleportation and intangibility. Being intangible does not automatically means it is a barrier.

I really laughed at you. Can you answer why when we hold something heavy it will add up to our mass. Why then Naruto who has 50% kyuubi chakra is not heavier than everybody if chakra is pure mass. Simple but you can't answer..Answer my question first and I will take you seriously even until dawn...Is this part 2 of how you got owned when we are arguing about reflexes?

You are barking like a japanese spitz..If i tell you I have 100 kg mass then does it mean that my mass density is 100kg?LOL! The unit alone is different. What are you studying again? Business or philo? Well, it explains why you're such an ignorant about units..good day

 

[Minator93]

I see people still haven't got how edo tensei works

in a nutshell, you're revived as you were, with your chakra levels intact. so say nagato would have a chakra level of 200, and he can use that as much as he want without a risk of dying from chakra exhaustion. so he can spam, but he can't use a jutsu which requires 250 chakra.

how do I know this? there are two examples, one is muu, and the other is the trollkage. both when split were severly limited, which means their chakra levels were also split. half infinity is still infinity, so the assumption that you can just do a massive jutsu which would have killed you while alive is way off. also if edo tensei have unlimited chakra then it follows they can scale their jutsu in an unlimited fashion as well. yet we saw clearly that it's not the case, the edos just afforded to be more carefree with their use of jutsu without a care for chakra expenditure.

on the other hand, you're able to spam techniques without a care for the chakra cost, like madara. (who also had his chakra levels boosted with the superior hashirama cells).

now, tobirama stated that the four edos were called back at CLOSE to their full power, unlike Madara who was brought back beyond his prime. so we can flush the theory that minato wouldnt have been able to teleport that tbb down the toilet.

secondly, we can look at the obito fight and it's clear as crystal that when teleporting the tbb minato showed absolutely no signs of fatigue using the barrier. he got wasted when he used ftg on the kyuubi, so it's reasonable to infer that scaling the mass teleported using ftg increases its chakra cost drastically, given that minato was able to spam ftg on himself. there is however absolutely no proof that ftg barrier plays by the same rules, as it teleported a huge object easily unlike ftg. and referring back to point no1, minato should have been able to do this juubi tbb feat while alive. It's of course reasonable to think that it would have cost him a fair bit of stamina. be that as it may, it's a brilliant feat which probably no one else could have matched. the hachibi's tbbs were like a marble next to a baseball, so that rules out hashirama, madara,naruto and nagato, and also kamui.

also, Itachi benefitted much more from edo tensei than minato could ever have. no pain from using the ms, no risk of blindness, and he can spam a high chakra cost technique without repercussions. so in short, if we're not going to use two weights two measures it's pointless to discuss things with you.

Thank you Baka Sennin + rep man.

This post which has the perfect logic got Ignored typical butthurt NB'ers

I thought this right here should've confirmed what Baka Sennin said

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[Lightning Release]

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[CamW]

Yes but kakashi would be near dead afterwards

 

[BloodSeed]

of course kishimoto wasnt trolling back there.

i have confirmed 1 thing
minato's chakra element was awesomeness.

hater: minato only have kunai and rasengan how could he become top rated ninja?
minato: meh ive just vanished the strongest attack that even the alliance couldnt counter with only just my KUNAI :scorps:

 

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[Minator93]

of course kishimoto wasnt trolling back there.

i have confirmed 1 thing
minato's chakra element was awesomeness.

hater: minato only have kunai and rasengan how could he become top rated ninja?
minato: meh ive just vanished the strongest attack that even the alliance couldnt counter with only just my KUNAI :scorps:

Haha nice one bro!

 

[ajpn920]

of course kishimoto wasnt trolling back there.

i have confirmed 1 thing
minato's chakra element was awesomeness.

hater: minato only have kunai and rasengan how could he become top rated ninja?
minato: meh ive just vanished the strongest attack that even the alliance couldnt counter with only just my KUNAI :scorps:

haha..true..haters gonna hate more this time bro.

 

[Multiply]

Until now, you can't accept truth..mass density is not equal to mass. Mass unit is plain kg (base unit). If we are talking about mass of an object then we are referring to how heavy it is..you understand that right?

at my sig? well who knows? can you give me the exact definition where it says it's a space time barrier? As far as I know, Kamui serves two things, teleportation and intangibility. Being intangible does not automatically means it is a barrier.

I really laughed at you. Can you answer why when we hold something heavy it will add up to our mass. Why then Naruto who has 50% kyuubi chakra is not heavier than everybody if chakra is pure mass. Simple but you can't answer..Answer my question first and I will take you seriously even until dawn...Is this part 2 of how you got owned when we are arguing about reflexes?

You are barking like a japanese spitz..If i tell you I have 100 kg mass then does it mean that my mass density is 100kg?LOL! The unit alone is different. What are you studying again? Business or philo? Well, it explains why you're such an ignorant about units..good day

@bold If you hold something heavy it does not add to your mass, it adds to your weight. Now go research the difference between mass and weight. Then, and only then, are you ready to understand density.

 

[BloodSeed]

Front pages with stuff at the side has never been taking seriously otherwise Neji and Karin will be too.
I am wondering how minato got there if he had no tag at the location, or is it just me

minato doesnt need tag to get there fast he is fast even without FTG

 

[BloodSeed]

Minato can only teleport it because he has unlimited chakra granted by edo tensei.. that's why he hasn't shown fatigue obviously.. because edo's don't show fatigue... Itachi can have his susanno on forever and spam amaterasu for months straight, and will never once claim to be tired...


And oce again, you fail to understand the juubi's size, if you're trying to compare it with kyuubi

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they are the size of the juubi's finger and hand...

Juubi's tbb was massive... the tbb minato teleported was a spec of dust to it.. as big as a head statue....

Chakra feats shown from edo tensei ninjas do not apply to ninjas in their non edo state

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Are you joking or that dense? This was a complete and utterly wrong translation.... and you fully well know that.....

Minato was the one who said his chakra was almost drained, and Kushina said she could put up the barrier, which she did...
Confirmed in viz's scans and practically all others

Damn, common sense should have kicked in when you read that scan.. why would Kushina be out of chakra ? she didn't use one ability.. she didn't fight.. nothing...

that kurama with the 8 tails was shrunk into a dwarf

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[ajpn920]

@bold If you hold something heavy it does not add to your mass, it adds to your weight. Now go research the difference between mass and weight. Then, and only then, are you ready to understand density.

LOL. don't get me wrong but you misunderstood mass and weight. mass unit is kg (base unit). If you are talking about weight then acceleration of gravity is present (m/s(squared)). Next time kid, do your homework instead of bubbling nonsense. Aren't you ashame that you corrected me with such wrong info..too bad for you..by the way, the unit of weight is Newton. Not sir Isaac Newton but as a unit..LOL..Just explaining because you try to offend me with something you don't know. And...by the way, I can tutor you if you can give decent pay...what do you want? algebra, trigo, geometry, engineering physics?

If you weigh 110 kg then it means that your mass is 110..Figure it why.. If you can't then don't ever correct me. people used weight in most cases when we talk about something big or small. That's how people misunderstood mass and weight..

Here, Oro is talking about density which means that chakra is not mass but mass density. Mass and Mass density are two different things that's why I gave that dumbell example.

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Do you understand now? You and your buddy Owarij are barking like a chihuahua who can't actually bite..

 

[Multiply]

LOL. don't get me wrong but you misunderstood mass and weight. mass unit is kg (base unit). If you are talking about weight then acceleration of gravity is present (m/s(squared)). Next time kid, do your homework instead of bubbling nonsense. Aren't you ashame that you corrected me with such wrong info..too bad for you..by the way, the unit of weight is Newton. Not sir Isaac Newton but as a unit..LOL..Just explaining because you try to offend me with something you don't know. And...by the way, I can tutor you if you can give decent pay...what do you want? algebra, trigo, geometry, engineering physics?

If you weigh 110 kg then it means that your mass is 110..Figure it why.. If you can't then don't ever correct me. people used weight in most cases when we talk about something big or small. That's how people misunderstood mass and weight..

So if I pick you up, then my mass is now the added mass between us? I can't tell if that's your implication, but that's what I can understand from your attempts to belittle me. Again, no, while you are right to some degree, you're still wrong in a scientific meaning of mass and weight. Weight is simply how much force is used when gravity is pulling on you. Which is why your weight is subject to change. Your mass will not change unless the physical make up of every atom in you changes. Though, if I pick you up, you do not become part of my mass, nor I to you. Again, I don't understand your implications, but from what I can decipher, your study in your degrees, or your professors, were horribly wrong. If you're being taught that if you pick up a dumbbell it adds to your mass, then you need another University.

@bold Well obviously, it's just measuring your mass... Your mass on the other hand is not the same as weight. As a common thing used in like grade school:
Weight=Mass≠Weight