Minato and the Third Raikage were scum!!

[Bieber]

I don't see the problem about Naruto not having any parents. Do you not see how strong he has gotten? He went through all that and look at the outcome. The whole village admires him, the whole Shinobi Alliance admires him, and he is one of the top 3 strongest ninja alive. It all paid off, also why would the name of the manga be Naruto if he was never the savior to begin with?

 

[LeSauce]

ahahahahha minato scum ahahahahah nice try uchiha fanboy its all good

Would it kill you guys to finish reading the thread. Not trying to sound harsh, but c'mon all I've been doing is explaining what's already there.

 

[Multiply]

Though you're likely trolling, I'll try to explain anyway. If Minato did that, Kurama would re-spawn, so to speak, and the assailant could easily use him again. Minato can't actually defeat Kurama, he did so because of Kushina's barrier. He can block a few shots and immobilize him, but that's it, he needs more powerful sealing tech. After coming back, the assaailant would have a better formulated plan, and keep going after Naruto.

That = Minato's logic. A damn good idea too.

 

[Kagerou]

You know what?...

You're scum.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

every ninja kills. not every ninja viciously and savagely mindrapes and psychologically tortures their own 7 year old brother into madness, then tortures them again for 24 hours/beats them into a coma.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Minato and raikage aren't scum.....WTH!! :|

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

And then he massacred 10,000 Shinobi and they see him as a hero?Wtf

its never said he won over the ten thousand and killed them all. he held them in place for 3 days so his army could escape. no different to what tobirama did

 

[LeSauce]

Though you're likely trolling, I'll try to explain anyway. If Minato did that, Kurama would re-spawn, so to speak, and the assailant could easily use him again. Minato can't actually defeat Kurama, he did so because of Kushina's barrier. He can block a few shots and immobilize him, but that's it, he needs more powerful sealing tech. After coming back, the assaailant would have a better formulated plan, and keep going after Naruto.

That = Minato's logic. A damn good idea too.

didn't Minato have those chakra chains as well, or something like them? Kurama would take a while to respawn as well, and the Tobi had been dealt with, so the village was safe. And Minato could have easily teleported Kurama somewhere else. Tobi could have easily come back for Naruto as a child, as no one could have protected him. Minato could have stayed alive and helped Naruto as well as protect him instead of forcing a demon inside him and causing misery in his life. So no I don't think it was a good idea.=D

I don't see the problem about Naruto not having any parents. Do you not see how strong he has gotten? He went through all that and look at the outcome. The whole village admires him, the whole Shinobi Alliance admires him, and he is one of the top 3 strongest ninja alive. It all paid off, also why would the name of the manga be Naruto if he was never the savior to begin with?

Do you see how much misery he went through. We, the readers, know the show is called Naruto;Minato didn't. Minato could not have been sure that he would turn out like that.

Seriously, you guys couldn't bother to read the whole thing either?

Well whatever might as well play along.




As for UssJ future trunks

Every ninja kills, but not every ninja forces little children into misery their entire childhood.

That isn't the point, this isn't real life. Hokages literally watched kids kill each other, so why bash?

 

[Multiply]

didn't Minato have those chakra chains as well? Kurama would take a while to respawn as well, and the Tobi had been dealt with, so the village was safe. And Minato could have easily teleported Kurama somewhere else. Tobi could have easily come back for Naruto as a child, as no one could have protected him. Minato could have stayed alive and helped Naruto as well as protect him instead of forcing a demon inside him and causing misery in his life. So no I don't think it was a good idea.=D

Do you see how much misery he went through. We, the readers, know the show is called Naruto;Minato didn't. Minato could not have been sure that he would turn out like that.

Seriously, you guys couldn't bother to read the whole thing either?

Well whatever might as well play along.

No... Just stop please.
1. Minato doesn't have the chains, he's not, nor was he ever a jinchuriki.

2. Bijuu take less than 16, as the Sanbi was found by Tobi and Deidara. I would imagine its been there for a while. It's likey less than 10 years, I'm only using 16 to give you a guide as to when it came back.

3. It takes a lot of chakra to teleport something like Kurama. First, he would have to fight Tobi, again. Fair enough, easy difficulty. Not only then, he would have to teleport Kurama far enough, so he can't actually just walk back there in 30 seconds. You're forgetting how huge he is. That far of a teleportation is enough to starve Minato of chakra thus killing him. He was winded after teleporting him, what, a mile?

4. Sure, he could have came back for him as a child, but which baby was Naruto? The kid without his fathers surename? Yeah, just kill every baby in the village .

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

That isn't the point, this isn't real life. Hokages literally watched kids kill each other, so why bash?

real life ninjas were like danzo and zabuza. making ti all the more horrifying when the supposed heroes like itachi, THE PEOPLE WE SHOULD BE ROOTING FOR AND LIKING, are as rotten as danzo and 4th kazekage. that means that you ahve to make damn sure to illustrate the differences between who we should be liking and who are the villains. people wanting peace and change through benevolent means like naruto jiraiya and kakashi, THOSE are the manga's heroes. they kill but only because theres absolutely no other way out and angst over it for years after it happens. like any real life person would. theres no point in them being the protagonists if they are from some weird alien world where morality is fuked up.

not every ninja likes what they do, nor do they participate in the same shit as danzo or 4th kazekage. but they do it. not because it has to be done because you can protect innocent people without joining a militaristic dictatorship that acts as a mercenary organisation above all else. the iron country is doing this. as far as im concerned mifune is the only actual hero in the series besides maybe inari. because he isnt a mercenary slave of a broken system.

 

[LeSauce]

No... Just stop please.
1. Minato doesn't have the chains, he's not, nor was he ever a jinchuriki.

2. Bijuu take less than 16, as the Sanbi was found by Tobi and Deidara. I would imagine its been there for a while. It's likey less than 10 years, I'm only using 16 to give you a guide as to when it came back.

3. It takes a lot of chakra to teleport something like Kurama. First, he would have to fight Tobi, again. Fair enough, easy difficulty. Not only then, he would have to teleport Kurama far enough, so he can't actually just walk back there in 30 seconds. You're forgetting how huge he is. That far of a teleportation is enough to starve Minato of chakra thus killing him. He was winded after teleporting him, what, a mile?

4. Sure, he could have came back for him as a child, but which baby was Naruto? The kid without his fathers surename? Yeah, just kill every baby in the village .

Sorry, I sort of like arguing.

1:He has something similar

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2:16 what? Doesn't matter it still takes a while, and a long while considering the mist still wanted runs body after she died.

3:He already knew how kamui worked, and he has it's almost perfect counter, he wouldn't be a problem. Kurama wouldn't attack the village unless provoked. He was able to summon gumabunta and use s/t on the bijuu bomb, I think he would have enough chakra to teleport Kurama.

4: Isn't Naruto the only one with a seal and whiskers on his face.

 

[Multiply]

Sorry, I sort of like arguing.

1:He has something similar

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2:16 what? Doesn't matter it still takes a while, and a long while considering the mist still wanted runs body after she died.

3:He already knew how kamui worked, and he has it's almost perfect counter, he wouldn't be a problem. Kurama wouldn't attack the village unless provoked. He was able to summon gumabunta and use s/t on the bijuu bomb, I think he would have enough chakra to teleport Kurama.

4: Isn't Naruto the only one with a seal and whiskers on his face.

You're an idiot.
1. That's clearly Kushina.
2. learn to read manga.
3. Not at a far enough distance to keep everyone safe, without risking his life.
4. so you're implying Obito is going to check EVERY baby in Konoha. He likely lived in that little apartment his entire life since infancy.

Now stop trolling :NO:

 

[LeSauce]

real life ninjas were like danzo and zabuza. making ti all the more horrifying when the supposed heroes like itachi, THE PEOPLE WE SHOULD BE ROOTING FOR AND LIKING, are as rotten as danzo and 4th kazekage. that means that you ahve to make damn sure to illustrate the differences between who we should be liking and who are the villains. people wanting peace and change through benevolent means like naruto jiraiya and kakashi, THOSE are the manga's heroes. they kill but only because theres absolutely no other way out and angst over it for years after it happens. like any real life person would. theres no point in them being the protagonists if they are from some weird alien world where morality is fuked up.

not every ninja likes what they do, nor do they participate in the same shit as danzo or 4th kazekage. but they do it. not because it has to be done because you can protect innocent people without joining a militaristic dictatorship that acts as a mercenary organisation above all else. the iron country is doing this. as far as im concerned mifune is the only actual hero in the series besides maybe inari. because he isnt a mercenary slave of a broken system.

So you agree that if you look at it from the real worlds perspective everyone would be corrupt? So why bash anyone if they're all the same?



@ Inanimated

1: No the bubble is coming from Minato. Kushina is the one who states she is running out of chakra.
2:I can read fine. At least i've come to believe so.
3:Maybe not, but like I said I doubt Tobi would attack again, and he still has the barrier.
4:Naruto isn't really that hard to find, he's the only blonde kid that lives alone and has whiskers. He also created a lot of commotion which would make it easier.

 

[LeSauce]

I'm out! Got's to say my prayers and sleep. I might get on later tomorrow, if you guys want to keep this going.

 

[Multiply]

I'm out! Got's to say my prayers and sleep. I might get on later tomorrow, if you guys want to keep this going.

No stop trying to keep this going. Trolling = bad.

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[USSJ Future Trunks]

So you agree that if you look at it from the real worlds perspective everyone would be corrupt? So why bash anyone if they're all the same?

because they arent. people like mifune and sakura exist who are frankly horrified with the prospect of killing even a single comrade and do everything possible to protect them. naruto considers an entire army of people hes never met his comrades and sucks up every drop of his power to protect them. and thats why we like those characters. they arent the cutthroat mercenaries their job tells them they should be.

its also why im horrified when kishi tells us we should like someone like itachi whos every bit as bad as danzo. sometimes the author's morality is screwed up too. maybe its a japanese thing to call villains heroes for performing horrific torture. in that case, they can go right ahead

 

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