[Theory] [Theory] According to Naka Shrine Madara let Hashirama to "kill' him

MrSimple

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Messages
2,062
Reaction score
358
A lot of people don't believe that Hashirama was stronger than EMS Madara,
and they were right Lol

It's not a secret that Madara studied his ancestor for a reason- Naka Shirine Because of his eyes he was able while Hashirama was unable, we can consider that as a reason why Hashirama couldn't predict why Madara is resurrected now.
As everyone knows- to be able to read the tablet you need either the Sharringan or the Rinnegan, apparently Hashirama was never been able to decipher the stone. While Madara already did that. Here we can see that Madara understands the interpretation the other way aswell.
Here is what he says "Looking for good stability one god was divided into Yin and Yang" Obviously as this panel offers and the knowledge gathered Madara already propose the idea of the Rinnegan.

So not for long after he had to come up with the plan of stealing his DNA, so I'm not gonna be surprised if in the other interpretation of Rikudou's words is included that you either dying or living long enough to achieve the Rinnegan.
The question is why Hashirama didn't predict that.

Madara needed to let him win the fight for the greater good of his plan as Obito explained as well in his fight with Konan.
 
Last edited:

blackstar9

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 15, 2012
Messages
3,437
Reaction score
132
If his plan was to get hashi dna , he succeded !
 

Unbiased King

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Nov 3, 2012
Messages
769
Reaction score
58
He could've killed Hashi and still succeeded in his plans.
 

Ryuujinn

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jan 18, 2013
Messages
1,357
Reaction score
125
Welcome tu mr. Simple fail thread

Hashi beaten madara even with PS n nine tail demon fox = universal truth
 

Mellanoma

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 21, 2011
Messages
7,541
Reaction score
675
A lot of people don't believe that Hashirama was stronger than EMS Madara,
and they were right Lol

It's not a secret that Madara studied his ancestor for a reason- Naka Shirine Which is also the reason why Hashirama couldn't predict why Madara is resurrected again.
As everyone knows- to be able to read the tablet you need either the Sharringan or the Rinnegan, apparently Hashirama was never been able to decipher the stone. While Madara already did that. Here we can see that Madara understands the interpretation the other way aswell.
Here is what he says "Looking for good stability one god was divided into Yin and Yang" Obviously as this panel offers and the knowledge gathered Madara already propose the idea of the Rinnegan.

So not for long after he had to come up with the plan of stealing his DNA, so I'm not gonna be surprised if in the other interpretation of Rikudou's word is included that you either dying or living long enough to achieve the Rinnegan.
The question is why Hashirama didn't predict that.

Madara needed to let him win the fight for the greater good of his plan as Obito explained as well in his fight with Konan.

Seems legit but honestly Madara didn't let Hashirama kill him just to get his DNA. Madara realized he was exiled and disliked between his own clan and everyone else so he needed a way to "Disappear" from the history books and out of people's thoughts and the only way to make sure everyone was convinced he had died as well as aquiring Hashi DNA was to fight Hashi.

Madara had a lot of dealings after his "death". Had any one suspected him of being a live he wouldn't have been able to do anything
 

Killahkels

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Dec 17, 2010
Messages
1,083
Reaction score
72
He didnt let hashirama beat him but he saved himself by putting senju dna in his wounds.
 

Avinash012

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 10, 2013
Messages
7,998
Reaction score
402
Ya i'll agree with u that Madara have a plan, but to do that there is no need for Madara to let Hashi win he can get Hashi DNA even aftr killng him,i dnt thnk Madara woulden't kill hashi even though he had a chance bcoz only one who can stop Madara's plan is Hashi,nd there is no need for him to use Kyubi to let Hashi win,Madara did fought Hashi to kill him,but he can't win against Hashi even with Kyubi,as u said if Madara is that strong then he would have killed Himnd get his dna imediatly,and have started moon Eye plane long ago,,,
 

BigGuns Reloaded

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jan 28, 2013
Messages
965
Reaction score
57
he could've killed hashi and still succeeded in his plans.

he would've-been hunted and targeted by everyone including his clans men also the village he help create would've been weekend dramatically at the time others wee forming villages

madara's attacks on the village actually were a good thing allowing ninja to stay sharp and wary of outside attacks

he let hash live and "kill" him to toughing up hash but at the same time achieve his goal
 

Avinash012

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 10, 2013
Messages
7,998
Reaction score
402
Hashirama>>>>>MS Madara
Hashirama>>>EMS Madara
Hashirama>Madara(Kyubi+EMS)
Hashirama>/=Madara(EMS+Rinnegan)
Hashirama</=Madara(EMS+RINNEGAN+Woodstyle)
Hashirama<<<<<<Madara(EMS+wood+Rinnegan)+10 Tails
Most of ppl think like this nd i do belive the Same,,,,,,,,
 

Transcendence

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 11, 2013
Messages
11,636
Reaction score
1,451
Absolutely not. If EMS Madara was ever stronger than Hashirama he would of killed him. Doing that would have given him the largest sample size possible of Hashirama's DNA.

Face it; Hashirama beats Madara all day everyday.
 

fahadkurama

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Nov 1, 2012
Messages
639
Reaction score
28
With all of Madara's arsenal. you still think he let Hashirama defeat him?
He was defeated fair and square.:beat:
 

fahadkurama

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Nov 1, 2012
Messages
639
Reaction score
28
Absolutely not. If EMS Madara was ever stronger than Hashirama he would of killed him. Doing that would have given him the largest sample size possible of Hashirama's DNA.

Face it; Hashirama beats Madara all day everyday.

very true:happy:
 

saw2097

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jun 8, 2012
Messages
8,529
Reaction score
493
If Madara could have defeated Hashi he would have, he could have taken Hashirama's entire body and eliminated one of the greatest threats to his plan.

Why else would he have lived in a cave for decades, the only logical explanation is that he couldn't beat Hashirama and was trying to get the Rinnegan.

Madara lost fair and square then hid in a cave to lick his wounds.
 

MrSimple

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Messages
2,062
Reaction score
358
If Madara could have defeated Hashi he would have, he could have taken Hashirama's entire body and eliminated one of the greatest threats to his plan.

Why else would he have lived in a cave for decades, the only logical explanation is that he couldn't beat Hashirama and was trying to get the Rinnegan.

Madara lost fair and square then hid in a cave to lick his wounds.

It's not about murdering him, their power were equal, he let him which doesn't necessary mean Madara is stronger, besides people were feared of him the most but anyway I don't know why some people give an interpretation to my words.
And the bigger picture in this thread is about his plan to obtain the Rinnegan.
 

VolatileSoul

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Feb 10, 2013
Messages
1,473
Reaction score
165
If what the OP said is true, it makes perfect sense that Madara let Hashirama win. Think about it. Know that everyone thinks he is dead, now one will bother hunting him and he will be free to implement his plan. Not only that, the man loved Hashirama.(no homo... I think.) He probably was as unwilling to kill Hashirama as Hashirama was unwilling to kill him. Heck, he made it clear he could see through wood clones, but lost because of one? Something isn't as it seems.
 

Rokudaime Hokage Naruto

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,615
Reaction score
292
Lol Madara with EMS Rinnegan and Mokuton be hunted, by other Ninja - good joke!. If Pain can take on the whole of Konoha and Madara has already killed Hashi, Madara doesn't need to run from anyone.
 

Makz

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Aug 31, 2011
Messages
563
Reaction score
58
Ya i'll agree with u that Madara have a plan, but to do that there is no need for Madara to let Hashi win he can get Hashi DNA even aftr killng him,i dnt thnk Madara woulden't kill hashi even though he had a chance bcoz only one who can stop Madara's plan is Hashi,nd there is no need for him to use Kyubi to let Hashi win,Madara did fought Hashi to kill him,but he can't win against Hashi even with Kyubi,as u said if Madara is that strong then he would have killed Himnd get his dna imediatly,and have started moon Eye plane long ago,,,

You must be registered for see images
 

VolatileSoul

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Feb 10, 2013
Messages
1,473
Reaction score
165
Lol Madara with EMS Rinnegan and Mokuton be hunted, by other Ninja - good joke!. If Pain can take on the whole of Konoha and Madara has already killed Hashi, Madara doesn't need to run from anyone.

He still would need time to recover from his wounds. He was in a weakened state, and wood release and Rinnegan had yet to be usable. Plus, the main point is that he needs to unfold his plan undisturbed, not run away from anyone for fear of being killed.
 
Top