Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

[HadouKage]

Well I don't see how any of this really breaks the shield now does it? It doesn't harm the shield, so I'm still correct that the shield blocks all attacks, if Kamui isn't really an attack then I'm still correct seeing as I said it blocks all attacks. Where does that leave your Kumai statement now? If it is an attack it will get blocked if it's transportation then it doesn't need to get blocked.



What I meant was, Kishimoto clearly wrote what Madara said to make Madara sound cocky and so on, when he said the Yata Mirror blocks any attack through Zetsu, he was obviously explaining to the readers what the shield can do.

Still doesn't explain the counter for Sussano slash :|

 

[Exaar]

Well I don't see how any of this really breaks the shield now does it? It doesn't harm the shield, so I'm still correct that the shield blocks all attacks, if Kamui isn't really an attack then I'm still correct seeing as I said it blocks all attacks. Where does that leave your Kumai statement now? If it is an attack it will get blocked if it's transportation then it doesn't need to get blocked..

Kumai is an attack, It's an attack that requires no physical contact or has physical properties, Like Genjutsu, Since genjutsu is also a form of attack but i don't recall it saying Genjutsu is useless against yata mirrior.

What I meant was, Kishimoto clearly wrote what Madara said to make Madara sound cocky and so on, when he said the Yata Mirror blocks any attack through Zetsu, he was obviously explaining to the readers what the shield can do.

You mean the Zetsu who got excited about seeing Amaterasu? Juging from his words he had heard of amaterasu but had never seen it.

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Also him speaking of amaterasu and saying "or so i've heard"

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People need to stop thinking Zetsu Is madara and that his words are as credible as if the real madara said so himself, Unless you think madara doesn't have it/Cannot use it even though he has susanoo.

 

[HadouKage]

Well I don't see how any of this really breaks the shield now does it? It doesn't harm the shield, so I'm still correct that the shield blocks all attacks, if Kamui isn't really an attack then I'm still correct seeing as I said it blocks all attacks. Where does that leave your Kumai statement now? If it is an attack it will get blocked if it's transportation then it doesn't need to get blocked.

Edit: @bold, it makes you sound like you're right and that's really stupid seeing as you're not...



What I meant was, Kishimoto clearly wrote what Madara said to make Madara sound cocky and so on, when he said the Yata Mirror blocks any attack through Zetsu, he was obviously explaining to the readers what the shield can do.

So through your observation, he made it so that Madara was exaggerating about PS power but didn't do so when talking about Yata? Wow Noddy was right, you do sound biased. What proof of this do you have? Even Madara himself stated the tremendous power of the slash, comparing to a bijou, in which he had possession of

 

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Kumai is an attack, It's an attack that requires no physical contact or has physical properties, Like Genjutsu, Since genjutsu is also a form of attack but i don't recall it saying Genjutsu is useless against yata mirrior.




You mean the Zetsu who got excited about seeing Amaterasu? Juging from his words he had heard of amaterasu but had never seen it.

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Also him speaking of amaterasu and saying "or so i've heard"

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People need to stop thinking Zetsu Is madara and that his words are as credible as if the real madara said so himself, Unless you think madara doesn't have it/Cannot use it even though he has susanoo.

I never said Zetsu was Madara, it's Manga fact, I've had enough of this pointless argument. I'm right, I've shown Manga and data book facts, I've said how each thing doesn't affect Yata Mirror and you still go against it, people like you lot are the biggest hater I've ever seen.

 

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So through your observation, he made it so that Madara was exaggerating about PS power but didn't do so when talking about Yata? Wow Noddy was right, you do sound biased. What proof of this do you have? Even Madara himself stated the tremendous power of the slash, comparing to a bijou, which he had possession of

No, it's obvious, it's the way he writes the Manga, tell me can his PS Slash break the moon? No it defiantly can't as even a Bijuu Dama can't and if Kishimoto wanted to say for real that PS Slash could break through all creations then he really messed up his story seeing as the Moon was created by the Sage and so he wouldn't break that with a PS Slash. It's so obvious that Kishimoto was making Madara say that to obviously hype himself up and make the 5 Kage lose hope. If you can't see this then there's really no point trying to get my point across seeing as you're either very dumb since you can't see this, a troll or biased yourself.

Edit: He even said Hashirama is the only one who can stop him. This isn't true is it? He only said that to make the 5 Kage lose hope. The sage and his 2 sons can stop Madara at the moment, so clearly he only said that, not as a fact from Kishimoto but from Madara to make the 5 Kage lose hope.

 

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you gave me a good laugh at number 5.

your list is flawed.

1.itachi>>sasuke

2. kabuto is irrelvent now

3. orochimaru has edos

4. itachi> healthy nagato [ because nagato wasnt as skilled when he was healthy]

5. naruto should be number 8.





your list >>>>> Yata

Seeing as the Manga has already stated that Yata Mirror can defend against all attacks, seeing as they're attacks then, Yata Mirror > them attacks/all attacks.

He didn't even give a reason, even if he did, it would be a pointless and failed one seeing as I've already proven that Yata Mirror does defend against all attacks.

 

[HadouKage]

No, it's obvious, it's the way he writes the Manga, tell me can his PS Slash break the moon? No it defiantly can't as even a Bijuu Dama can't and if Kishimoto wanted to say for real that PS Slash could break through all creations then he really messed up his story seeing as the Moon was created by the Sage and so he wouldn't break that with a PS Slash. It's so obvious that Kishimoto was making Madara say that to obviously hype himself up and make the 5 Kage lose hope. If you can't see this then there's really no point trying to get my point across seeing as you're either very dumb since you can't see this, a troll or biased yourself.

Edit: He even said Hashirama is the only one who can stop him. This isn't true is it? He only said that to make the 5 Kage lose hope. The sage and his 2 sons can stop Madara at the moment, so clearly he only said that, not as a fact from Kishimoto but from Madara to make the 5 Kage lose hope.

Well Kamui blocks Maui so whatever Kamui's attribute is, the shield will use that attribute and block it. Any more?

Says the guy who says yata can defend against Kamui :|
Obviously Madara doesn't know of the power of the Sages son, so how could he infer such a statement, obviously he was referring to ninjas around his time and era, different topic for another time. What I'm saying is, the statements contradict one another. No I'm not being biased but I'm doing exactly as you are, taking facts from the manga and presenting them to you. You're the one saying Yata Mirror can defend against sound, why didn't Itachi use that against Kabuto then? You're taking an over exaggerated statement to new extents. You cannot refute what Madara said, hype or no hype if you are using hype, DB and manga facts to support your claim

 

[HadouKage]

Seeing as the Manga has already stated that Yata Mirror can defend against all attacks, seeing as they're attacks then, Yata Mirror > them attacks/all attacks.

He didn't even give a reason, even if he did, it would be a pointless and failed one seeing as I've already proven that Yata Mirror does defend against all attacks.

How does yata defend against sound?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Well I don't see how any of this really breaks the shield now does it? It doesn't harm the shield, so I'm still correct that the shield blocks all attacks, if Kamui isn't really an attack then I'm still correct seeing as I said it blocks all attacks. Where does that leave your Kumai statement now? If it is an attack it will get blocked if it's transportation then it doesn't need to get blocked.

You're uh... right.

Kamui does get through it, but doesn't break it.

Just wanted to show it isn't a PERFECT defense.

 

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Says the guy who says yata can defend against Kamui :|
Obviously Madara doesn't know of the power of the Sages son, so how could he infer such a statement, obviously he was referring to ninjas around his time and era, different topic for another time. What I'm saying is, the statements contradict one another. No I'm not being biased but I'm doing exactly as you are, taking facts from the manga and presenting them to you. You're the one saying Yata Mirror can defend against sound, why didn't Itachi use that against Kabuto then? You're taking an over exaggerated statement to new extents. You cannot refute what Madara said, hype or no hype if you are using hype, DB and manga facts to support your claim

Well this shows you don't understand anything, that was my point, Madara was speaking himself and it wasn't Kishimoto giving a fact about Madara and his PS Slash just like it wasn't a fact that only Hashirama could beat him. That was my point, Kishimoto and nearly every other Manga is written like that. The maker of the Manga has a character say a certain thing, in a certain way which means it's a fact. Other times they only mean it as the character other hyping themselves and so on.

 

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How does yata defend against sound?

If the sound itself is an attack, the Yata Mirror would change it's attributes to whatever blocks out sound? Did you even need to ask this? If needed the Yata Mirror changes it's attributes to the same attribute of a sound proof barrier, the material and such.

 

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You're uh... right.

Kamui does get through it, but doesn't break it.

Just wanted to show it isn't a PERFECT defense.

All I am saying is that nothing harm or affect the Yata Mirror, it can't be broken, can't be sealed, can't be blown up and so on.

 

[Exaar]

I never said Zetsu was Madara, it's Manga fact,

Madara fused some of his "will" inside zetsu, he didn't infuse Himself/Personality/consciousness/knowledge inside him.

Zetsu is not madara.

I've had enough of this pointless argument. I'm right, I've shown Manga and data book facts, I've said how each thing doesn't affect Yata Mirror and you still go against it, people like you lot are the biggest hater I've ever seen.

Nothing to with haters, I like itachi, have done since part one.

You're "facts" aren't "facts", Kumai's databook entry directly contradicts your "Facts". If an attacks hits yata mirrior it will do what you say, It will change elements and reflect it, But against non-physical attacks such as Genjutsu/Kumai how can it change element to something that doesn't touch it?.

I would like to see your excuse how it deflects Genjutsu XD

 

[HadouKage]

Well this shows you don't understand anything, that was my point, Madara was speaking himself and it wasn't Kishimoto giving a fact about Madara and his PS Slash just like it wasn't a fact that only Hashirama could beat him. That was my point, Kishimoto and nearly every other Manga is written like that. The maker of the Manga has a character say a certain thing, in a certain way which means it's a fact. Other times they only mean it as the character other hyping themselves and so on.

So you're saying Kishi was exaggerating about Madara's power (when he clearly demonstrated to us what it could do) but was on the money with Itachi's Yata? Dude, get real. You're not even disproving what I said, PS destroys all creation, you cannot take KISHI's words and then decide that it isn't true. Obviously all characters create hyperboles, Itachi is no exception

 

[pateuvasiliu]

How did you argue against Shinsusenju, Bijuudama and Kyuubi Bijuudama + PS slash, again?

All of these break it imo.

 

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Madara fused some of his "will" inside zetsu, he didn't infuse Himself/Personality/consciousness/knowledge inside him.

Zetsu is not madara.



Nothing to with haters, I like itachi, have done since part one.

You're "facts" aren't "facts", Kumai's databook entry directly contradicts your "Facts". If an attacks hits yata mirrior it will do what you say, It will change elements and reflect it, But against non-physical attacks such as Genjutsu/Kumai how can it change element to something that doesn't touch it?.

I would like to see your excuse how it Genjutsu XD

@bold, I misplaced a coma there, I was meant to put a full stop. Like: "I never said Zetsu is Madara. It's Manga fact that Yata..."

So, the Manga isn't fact anymore? Look how bad that logic is. My facts came from the Manga, the most reliable source we have. It was said to change it's attributes not element, don't get them mixed up... seeing as Genjutsu wouldn't affect the shield would the shield even need to change it's attributes?

 

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So you're saying Kishi was exaggerating about Madara's power (when he clearly demonstrated to us what it could do) but was on the money with Itachi's Yata? Dude, get real. You're not even disproving what I said, PS destroys all creation, you cannot take KISHI's words and then decide that it isn't true. Obviously all characters create hyperboles, Itachi is no exception

No, I'm saying Kishimoto showed us that Madara was making the 5 Kage lose hope, Obito and Madara have been trying to make everyone lose hope since they first arrived properly in the Manga... I did prove you wrong by saying this: Kishimoto made Madara say that his PS Slash breaks all creations just to make the 5 Kage lose hope. The reason we know he wrote it like that and not as a fact is that, the moon was created by the Sage and his PS Slash can't break through that by obvious reasons. So clearly he was just making Madara try to make the 5 Kage lose hope.

This isn't about Itachi though is it? It's about the Yata Mirror. Don't change the subject.

 

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How did you argue against Shinsusenju, Bijuudama and Kyuubi Bijuudama + PS slash, again?

All of these break it imo.

I said that as stated by Kishimoto through Itachi, all Jutsu have a weakness, all of them you listed are Jutsu and so they have a weakness. Yata Mirror changes it's attributes to whatever blocks the incoming attack. So whatever them Jutsu is weakest to, the Yata Mirror will change to.

 

[HadouKage]

No, I'm saying Kishimoto showed us that Madara was making the 5 Kage lose hope, Obito and Madara have been trying to make everyone lose hope since they first arrived properly in the Manga... I did prove you wrong by saying this: Kishimoto made Madara say that his PS Slash breaks all creations just to make the 5 Kage lose hope. The reason we know he wrote it like that and not as a fact is that, the moon was created by the Sage and his PS Slash can't break through that by obvious reasons. So clearly he was just making Madara try to make the 5 Kage lose hope.

This isn't about Itachi though is it? It's about the Yata Mirror. Don't change the subject.

So him saying that his slash had the power of a bijuu was bullocks as well? :|
You're justifying what kishi wrote to fill you want to think. Obviously it was exaggerated just as Raikiri has been exaggerated because if we go by manga fact and DB entries, Raikiri would be able to pierce Yata. There has never been an instance where Raikiri hasn't pierced anything so there is nothing you can say to refute this as well.

 

[Exaar]

So, the Manga isn't fact anymore? Look how bad that logic is. My facts came from the Manga, the most reliable source we have. It was said to change it's attributes not element, don't get them mixed up... seeing as Genjutsu wouldn't affect the shield would the shield even need to change it's attributes?

and mine come from the databook, It's just as reliable as the manga. Kishi writes both himself.
The fact is Kumai and Yata mirror contradict each other, Thus making Both of there hype unreliable.

I'm talking about the user behind the Shield aswell, Since you claim that Yata's hype is undeniable and it deflects all attacks, it must also deflect genjutsu away from the Yata user.

Yet when explaining yata mirror nothing was said about defense for genjutsu (can't remember it was in the manga or the databooks), All it said was about physical attacks and Ninjutsu, Thus making "Reflecting All attacks", "He is invincible" Hype unreliable also. Since he would still be susceptible Genjutsu