EMS Madara didn't have PS, just Rinnengan madara can use it.

[EZQ]

Against Hashirama, EMS Madara used regular complete susanoo, he didn't use PERFECT susanoo, why? if you compare the size of the susanoo Madara used against hashirama with the kyuubi, they were almost equals, but PS is a lot bigger than any bijuu as showed in Madara vs 5 Kages.

So i am assuming that EDO Madara with rinnengan is the one who can use PS, EMS Madara's strongest susanoo is COMPLETE susanoo, not perfect.

 

[PredictionGuru]

Well. The Kyubi used to be full-sized back in the day.
Other than that, I don't know.

 

[Sensational]

Kishi has terrible consistency with his proportions and sizing, dont take them to heart.

 

[Gaara]

Cloaking kurama in sussano > PS

 

[KidGamer65]

Not this again...

PS Kyuubi.

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PS (Gokage fight)

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They look the same, they have the same characteristics and have the same exact strength. They are the same except one was equipped to Kyuubi and one wasn't so it was standing in full form. Susanoo is an EMS tech. It makes no sense for it to be related to Rinnegan.

This is complete Susanoo.

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One was formed with legs while one wasn't.

 

[Midday]

He couldn't use the same one with legs and stablised chakra back in the fight with Hashirama.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Not this again...

PS Kyuubi.

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They look the same, they have the same characteristics and have the same exact strength. They are the same except one was equipped to Kyuubi and one wasn't so it was standing in full form. Susanoo is an EMS tech. It makes no sense for it to be related to Rinnegan.

This is complete Susanoo.

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One was formed with legs while one wasn't.

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[Bogard]

Yes he did

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[AlphaScythian]

He did. He had PS swords. Its a sign of PS along with sword slash ability

 

[Sacrosanct]

Yes, he did.

 

[ANiMUS]

Dude Madara's Susanoo that he used on the kyuub did not have a beak like its complete form, used straight swords instead of complete susanoo's curvy swords and only his PS has displayed the ability to cut mountains with the swing of its sword so yeh that's PS if I ever seen it.

 

[TheSages456]

the susano that madara used at VOTE destroyed mountains and the only form of susano that madara has shown that can destroy mountains is PS.

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[Untung]

Against Hashirama, EMS Madara used regular complete susanoo, he didn't use PERFECT susanoo, why? if you compare the size of the susanoo Madara used against hashirama with the kyuubi, they were almost equals, but PS is a lot bigger than any bijuu as showed in Madara vs 5 Kages.

So i am assuming that EDO Madara with rinnengan is the one who can use PS, EMS Madara's strongest susanoo is COMPLETE susanoo, not perfect.

Did you know the real size of kurama???
If yes when ?? Can you post the link.... The real size kurama and the real size tha you compare to PS....

 

[AlphaScythian]

Did you know the real size of kurama???
If yes when ?? Can you post the link.... The real size kurama and the real size tha you compare to PS....

PS is bigger then full kurama. U can see it by the gem size in comparison to madara

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Like ^^^^here

 

[Lightbringer]

The perfect susanoo isn't another form.....it's just the stabilized version of the complete. Stabilizing chakra isn't an exclusive technique granted by an eye power, it's something learned and mastered.

 

[hola112233]

i made a thread on this a long time ago and figured that there is no point pursuing this matter because either kishi will tell you or it isn't important to him, and therefore should not be important to you

 

[Aaroninja]

Agreed. And if he had PS, he would have used that to fight the Shinsuusenju statue as they would be around the same size?

 

[thebunkofthebrave]

you're correct, i never noticed that

 

[shelke]

Not this again....

 

[BlinkST]

Agreed. And if he had PS, he would have used that to fight the Shinsuusenju statue as they would be around the same size?

Jesus Christ.

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Have you both lost your damn minds? Perfect Susano'o is about the same size as Kyubi. Nowhere close to being the same size as Hashirama's jutsu.