Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

[Bogard]

Yet Obito said Kamui wont work on him as he can block it with Kamui, Kamui has attributes, Yata Mirror changes to that attribute and blocks it. Do you really still think this is not true?

Edit: The data book stated that Kumai is un block able, yet the Manga and data book said the Yata Mirror can block any and all attacks. Which one sounds more reliable?

Databook and manga says Raikiri cuts through anything. Does it mean it could cut yata mirror as well? Seriously people can't recognise hyperbole in mangas?

 

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Databook and manga says Raikiri cuts through anything. Does it mean it could cut yata mirror as well? Seriously people can't recognise hyperbole in mangas?

Show me where it say's that Raikiri cut's through anything? In the Manga. The Yata Mirror makes sense as well. Yata Mirror changes it's attributes to whatever blocks the incoming attack. That itself shows it's true.

 

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Yet Obito said Kamui wont work on him as he can block it with Kamui, Kamui has attributes, Yata Mirror changes to that attribute and blocks it. Do you really still think this is not true?

Edit: The data book stated that Kumai is un block able, yet the Manga and data book said the Yata Mirror can block any and all attacks. Which one sounds more reliable?

Well Duh, Obviously blocks against itself.

None of them are reliable, Both counter each others hype, If you believe that the shield has No Limit/weakness, That sounds far more absurd to me than kumai not being able to warp anything. especially since kakashi attempted to warp even the juubi.

But i Guess it's also logical for the Yata mirror to defend against attacks like this

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Or any attack the sage has.

 

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Databook and manga says Raikiri cuts through anything. Does it mean it could cut yata mirror as well? Seriously people can't recognise hyperbole in mangas?

hyperboles clearly doesn't apply to anything itachi has

/itachi fan logic.

 

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hyperboles clearly doesn't apply to anything itachi has

/itachi fan logic.

Here we go about the Itachi fanboy comments, this is getting ridiculous, is the Yata Mirror Itachi himself? No so I'm not hyping up or trying to prove anything for Itachi's sake just to prove Yata Mirror blocks everything. Manga states that it does block anything so you can't go against it.

If the Sage had a technique that can block the Juubi's TBB then the Yata Mirror will copy that techniques attributes to negate the TBB as well. It's already a fact that it does that to attacks and so you're wrong that attacks can get past it.

 

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Here we go about the Itachi fanboy comments, this is getting ridiculous, is the Yata Mirror Itachi himself? No so I'm not hyping up or trying to prove anything for Itachi's sake just to prove Yata Mirror blocks everything. Manga states that it does block anything so you can't go against it.

Yet your going against Kumai's hype of no defense being possible?.

hypocrite much?.

If the Sage had a technique that can block the Juubi's TBB then the Yata Mirror will copy that techniques attributes to negate the TBB as well. It's already a fact that it does that to attacks and so you're wrong that attacks can get past it.

Just so we're clear, While itachi has Yata up, The Sage nor the juubi can do anything to harm him?.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Hi, I would like to join this interesting discussion . I created thread about Yata Mirror and Sword of The Totsuka.

I would you like guys for you to check it, here:

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I think it would works, and Kishi would do that like I wrote, because:

- Yata Mirror and Sword of The Totsuka's hype could get same
- My theory doesn't contradict manga's scans or databook
- Nowhere in manga scans or databook was said that Yata Mirror and Sword of The Totsuka durability/ power/ strength doens't depend on wielder/user's strength/ power

so, Do you think guys it could work ?

 

[Curse Mark]

No, not even sound can get past the Yata Mirror itself, if the sound came from behind the Susano'o the shield won't repel/block it and so the person inside the Susano'o will be affected, Yata Mirror still can block anything though.

If sound couldn't get through, Itachi wouldn't have heard Sasuke talking to him while he had it up.
/Soundtheory

 

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If sound couldn't get through, Itachi wouldn't have heard Sasuke talking to him while he had it up.
/Soundtheory

I already had someone say this before, if the sound isn't going to harm the user of Yata Mirror then it wont block it out. When I said that in your quote, I replied to someone saying about a sound type attack and so I didn't need to keep saying that it was an attack considering he would know what I meant.

Yet your going against Kumai's hype of no defense being possible?.

hypocrite much?.




Just so we're clear, While itachi has Yata up, The Sage nor the juubi can do anything to harm him?.

No I'm not a hypocrite, Kumai does have a counter and that's Kumai itself, Kumai does have an attribute and whatever that is the Yata Mirror would use and defend against it. Now if there is possibly which there most likely is, another way to defend against it then the Yata Mirror may use that way as well.

No I'm not saying that at all, but I am saying that any attacks that hit the Yata Mirror, even from the Juubi or Rikudou Sennin will be blocked/negated/repelled.

 

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Hi, I would like to join this interesting discussion . I created thread about Yata Mirror and Sword of The Totsuka.

I would you like guys for you to check it, here:

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I think it would works, and Kishi would do that like I wrote, because:

- Yata Mirror and Sword of The Totsuka's hype could get same
- My theory doesn't contradict manga's scans or databook
- Nowhere in manga scans or databook was said that Yata Mirror and Sword of The Totsuka durability/ power/ strength doens't depend on wielder/user's strength/ power

so, Do you think guys it could work ?

I slightly read your thread before posting here.

 

[Vegeto30294]

You keep ignoring manga facts, Yata Mirror can block everything as it has been stated in the Manga and even the data book say's so as well.

Here's where the problem lies. The Yata Mirror's defense was credited by both the Manga and the databook, but here's the thing: Other techniques have as well. Yes we know about its attribute changing abilities, but why aren't the other techniques given as much praise as the Yata Mirror, other than the fact it's a spirit weapon and its owned by Itachi?

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Garra's "Supreme Absolute Defense Shield" has yet to be broken. Am I supposed to believe that's unbreakable as well?

If Sasuke ends up wielding the Yata Mirror, and it gets beaten by Naruto, what happens then?

I'm not debating whether or not the Mirror in unbreakable (despite the previous statement), but the "Absolute Defense" of the series is being paled in comparison to Itachi's "Absolute Defense", only because the Manga & databook say so, while also crediting less powerful abilities to the same extent.

 

[KCMNaruto]

I slightly read your thread before posting here.

Hmm... Ok, but does it mean you agree or not ?

Please read it and leave comment in my thread or here, I wonder if it works like I just wrote =D

 

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Here's where the problem lies. The Yata Mirror's defense was credited by both the Manga and the databook, but here's the thing: Other techniques have as well. Yes we know about its attribute changing abilities, but why aren't the other techniques given as much praise as the Yata Mirror, other than the fact it's a spirit weapon and its owned by Itachi?

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Garra's "Supreme Absolute Defense Shield" has yet to be broken. Am I supposed to believe that's unbreakable as well?

If Sasuke ends up wielding the Yata Mirror, and it gets beaten by Naruto, what happens then?

I'm not debating whether or not the Mirror in unbreakable (despite the previous statement), but the "Absolute Defense" of the series is being paled in comparison to Itachi's "Absolute Defense", only because the Manga & databook say so, while also crediting less powerful abilities to the same extent.

Sasuke shouldn't end up with Yata Mirror seeing as it's not attached to Itachi's Susano'o, it's only wielded. I do understand that the manga and the data book has stated that other defensive techniques have been called unbreakable and so on but I know I keep repeating this but it's true, the Yata Mirror changes it's attribute to whatever counters the incoming attack. Also don't forget it's 1 of 3 spiritual equipment which are all very powerful and are god-like equipment.

Hmm... Ok, but does it mean you agree or not ?

Please read it and leave comment in my thread or here, I wonder if it works like I just wrote =D

I'll read through it all soon.

 

[khaydz5]

Well actually, the Manga say's that it's all attacks that get blocked, the data book also say's it. Does the Manga say there's no defence that can block Kamui in the Manga? No there isn't. Yata Mirror has more confirmation than Kamui's attack.

lol zetsu said it blocks ALL sasuke's attack not generally ALL attacks. even if it was said in the manga you cannot justify by just that. well the sword of kusanagi said that it can pierce anything and it WAS INDICATED in the manga, later on shown that it can't even pierce 4 tails naruto.

No I'm not a hypocrite, Kumai does have a counter and that's Kumai itself, Kumai does have an attribute and whatever that is the Yata Mirror would use and defend against it. Now if there is possibly which there most likely is, another way to defend against it then the Yata Mirror may use that way as well.

No I'm not saying that at all, but I am saying that any attacks that hit the Yata Mirror, even from the Juubi or Rikudou Sennin will be blocked/negated/repelled.

LOL and he is not a hypocrite.


yeah yata mirror MAY or MAY NOT be able to defend against kamui. basically all your words now are asspulled.

databook made itself clear. no defense against kamui. and you cannot disprove that.

the green text guy also said that yata mirror is basically the same entity as the death god, dan's ghost mode and gedo mazo soul dragon..

so based on that dan's ghost mode should work against this aswell. Dan can just go inside susanoo, and stab itachi.

same as the soul dragon, I don't see yata mirror block such attack, soul dragon may pass through yata and susanoo killing itachi inside.


but as far as the title goes, we can agree that yata mirror MAYBE UNBREAKABLE but, it may not defend the user to ALL kinds of attacks.

Escape means that he basically left the Totsuka Jar itself. Which he didn't do. There was more than 1 Oro and Totsuka only sealed one of them. There was no escape.

nope, itachi thought orochimaru was forever trapped in totsuka. later on orochimaru manages to avoid being sealed because of his jutsu.

one way or another you can consider that as escaping or avoiding being sealed in the totsuka. this means that there is a WAY not to be trap in totsuka forever.

Actually I think it will simply filter the poison air out just like it did to Mei's Acid Mist. Despite it being in the air it didn't burn Sasuke to a crisp when he had Susanoo on.

check manga again pls before you claim anything, mei's acid passed through sasuke's susanoo. it burnt his arm.

 

[KidGamer65]

nope, itachi thought orochimaru was forever trapped in totsuka. later on orochimaru manages to avoid being sealed because of his jutsu.

one way or another you can consider that as escaping or avoiding being sealed in the totsuka. this means that there is a WAY not to be trap in totsuka forever.

There is a clear meaning of escape, go read this definition before claiming Orochimaru escaped the Totsuka jar.

-Is Orochimaru still in the jar?
Yes he is

check manga again pls before you claim anything, mei's acid passed through sasuke's susanoo. it burnt his arm.

Wasn't burning him here.

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He tried to upgrade a level and then it briefly got through.

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But it didn't burn him anymore throughout that fight.

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Susanoo blocked the mist until Sasuke tried to level up, then it got in and when Susanoo reverted back to Ribcage it continued to protect him.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kamui warps yata. Since kamui isn't an attack but a means of transportation the shield won't change its properties to stop it. it will go to a different dimension and that will be that.

 

[Itachi Solos]

I agree with the OP. Kishimoto facts > opinion

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I agree with the OP. Kishimoto facts > opinion

don't let hyperboles get to you

 

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Since when did people start thinking Manga facts are wrong? Kishimoto has already stated through Zetsu that the Yata Mirror can block all attacks.

Kamui warps yata. Since kamui isn't an attack but a means of transportation the shield won't change its properties to stop it. it will go to a different dimension and that will be that.

Kamui is an attack and defence type of technique depending on how it's used, defensive if used to go intangible and offensive if you're getting warped. How can you say that the Kamui Kakashi used to rip of and warp Deidara's arm is not an attack? It's transportation when Obito uses it on himself and that's the only time it is.

lol zetsu said it blocks ALL sasuke's attack not generally ALL attacks. even if it was said in the manga you cannot justify by just that. well the sword of kusanagi said that it can pierce anything and it WAS INDICATED in the manga, later on shown that it can't even pierce 4 tails naruto.



LOL and he is not a hypocrite.


yeah yata mirror MAY or MAY NOT be able to defend against kamui. basically all your words now are asspulled.

databook made itself clear. no defense against kamui. and you cannot disprove that.

the green text guy also said that yata mirror is basically the same entity as the death god, dan's ghost mode and gedo mazo soul dragon..

so based on that dan's ghost mode should work against this aswell. Dan can just go inside susanoo, and stab itachi.

same as the soul dragon, I don't see yata mirror block such attack, soul dragon may pass through yata and susanoo killing itachi inside.


but as far as the title goes, we can agree that yata mirror MAYBE UNBREAKABLE but, it may not defend the user to ALL kinds of attacks.




nope, itachi thought orochimaru was forever trapped in totsuka. later on orochimaru manages to avoid being sealed because of his jutsu.

one way or another you can consider that as escaping or avoiding being sealed in the totsuka. this means that there is a WAY not to be trap in totsuka forever.



check manga again pls before you claim anything, mei's acid passed through sasuke's susanoo. it burnt his arm.

I've already said this before, Kamui counters Kamui. Kamui does have attributes and so whatever that attribute is, the Yata Mirror will either use that or if there's another/better way in stopping Kamui then it will use that type of attribute instead.

Edit: The Manga and data book say's that Yata Mirror blocks all attacks. Only the data book say's Kamui is defenseless.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Since when did people start thinking Manga facts are wrong? Kishimoto has already stated through Zetsu that the Yata Mirror can block all attacks.



Kamui is an attack and defence type of technique depending on how it's used, defensive if used to go intangible and offensive if you're getting warped. How can you say that the Kamui Kakashi used to rip of and warp Deidara's arm is not an attack? It's transportation when Obito uses it on himself and that's the only time it is.

It only ripped his hand off because the transportation was not complete. This is proven when kakashi warps naruto's clone and it made it to the other side perfectly fine