Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

[wael reda]

Yata can change its shape depending on the attack

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where in the manga that showed yata can change its shape depending on the attack to protect all susano
you just talk and you didn't answer my rest post so i'll repeat him

yata protect one side of susano only
so any so strong attack which can affect sasuke's susano can affect itachi's one from the back or even if it is huge jutsu which can include all susano as(naruto's giant biju doma,jiubi's bombs,may hirudora)
where was the yata when itachi fallen in tayua's ginjutus(attack)
where was the yata when itachi was affected by kabuto's sound and light jutsu(attack)
where was the yata when itachi was absorbed by chibaku tensi
so yata can't defend against gravity attacks so it can't defend against shinra tensi,banshu tain ,kamui
kamui can warp anything to other dimension and it was said in data book that no defense can counter kamui and it is unmatched jutus
can you answer that ??

 

[OnPoint]

Madara wasn't being spoken through by Kishimoto while Zetsu was. Madara probably doesn't know about Yata Mirror and he is very over confident as well. Is my Avatar, Signature, Status and User Title to do with Yata Mirror? You idiots seem to forget I'm talking about Yata Mirror and not Itachi. What about Draphsin? He has nothing to do with Itachi yet he's defending Yata Mirror. Itachi might be my favourite (alongside Minato) but that doesn't make me a fanboy. It's funny when idiots lose arguments they instantly revert to calling me an Itachi fanboy.

Assumptions, bias, and laughable claims such as 'Kishimoto was speaking through Zetsu but he wasn't speaking through Madara'. These arguments are piss poor and not backed by canon. Pretty much all of the elite weapons or Jutsu in this manga have been described with some sort of imagery or hyperbole, and yet, some ignore the obvious cries of logic and reason in order to senselessly back their favourite characters. You're pulling shit out of your arse, especially with that first sentence. I never said you were an fanboy. I just made an obvious and, quite frankly, unsurprising observation.

 

[Vegeto30294]

I'm just gonna say the same thing I said in another thread.

The thing that people are forgetting is that everyone worships the Yata Mirror because the databook calls it the "Ultimate Defense" But

• Earth Release: Earth Spear - "With the chakra flowing through all parts of one's body, the skin is hardened, increasing its defence power to its utmost limits. The amount of techniques that can break through the areas hardened by the Earth Spear are close to zero, not including its undeniable weak point: Lightning Release ninjutsu."
  
  
• Summoning: Triple Rashōmon - Being able to use this ultimate absolute defence just shows why Orochimaru was once called Sannin. The gates of carnage, arrived from hell easily chase away the opponent's power, seemingly if ridiculing their screaming. After that, nothing remains but for the person bitten back by Orochimaru to embrace great despair…
  
  
• Mechanical Light Shield Block - A mysterious chakra shining with splendour becomes a shield boasting a strong defence!! The chakra spreads out like a thin film and turns into a protective sheet, preventing all physical attacks and keeping the user safeguarded…!!
  
  
• Kamui - The target can struggle helplessly, but against this technique no defence is possible. No matter what, the space will distort and draw the target in.
  
  
• Blocking Technique Absorption Seal - All techniques are absorbed and made ineffective, regardless of the nature of the chakra.
  
  
• Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes - In front of such overwhelming numbers, a true "wall of snakes," defence and evasion mean nothing. The enemy can do nothing but become buried by the snakes. Furthermore, when the inexhaustibly crawling snakes gather, they become a defensive wall, blocking any kind of attack!!

All these techniques given by the databook as near invincible defense, yet no one has given any respect to them, even if they haven't been overpowered yet.

Take the Kamui for example. The databook said that no technique is possible against it. Does that mean it retcons the Yata Mirror's absolute defense?

 

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where in the manga that showed yata can change its shape depending on the attack to protect all susano
you just talk and you didn't answer my rest post so i'll repeat him

yata protect one side of susano only
so any so strong attack which can affect sasuke's susano can affect itachi's one from the back or even if it is huge jutsu which can include all susano as(naruto's giant biju doma,jiubi's bombs,may hirudora)
where was the yata when itachi fallen in tayua's ginjutus(attack)
where was the yata when itachi was affected by kabuto's sound and light jutsu(attack)
where was the yata when itachi was absorbed by chibaku tensi
so yata can't defend against gravity attacks so it can't defend against shinra tensi,banshu tain ,kamui
kamui can warp anything to other dimension and it was said in data book that no defense can counter kamui and it is unmatched jutus
can you answer that ??

Yata Mirror was shown to protect over the top of Susano'o when Sasuke's Kunai bomb's hit the Yata Mirror.

Like I said and others have said before that Yata Mirror does change it's shape to defend against attacks. I didn't think it did either in till I saw the panel that showed the Yata Mirror protecting over the head of Susano'o.

Itachi never used Yata Mirror against those attacks and that's maybe why he didn't block them? Itachi was never absorbed by Chibaku Tensei either... also did Chibaku Tensei's orb go flying into Yata Mirror? If it did then Yata Mirror would have negated it.

If Shinra Tensei blasted towards the Yata Mirror and hit it then the Yata Mirror would change it's attributes to whatever can block Shinra Tensei. The same for all over attacks that hit or are aiming for Itachi.

Kamui is a Jutsu and Kishimoto has already said through Itachi that every Jutsu has a weakness and so whatever the weakness of Kamui is the Yata Mirror would change it's attribute accordingly to block it. It seems using Kamui is a way to stop Kamui and so it'll change to something to do with that to block it most likely.

 

[Lightbringer]

Madara wasn't being spoken through by Kishimoto while Zetsu was. Madara probably doesn't know about Yata Mirror and he is very over confident as well. Is my Avatar, Signature, Status and User Title to do with Yata Mirror? You idiots seem to forget I'm talking about Yata Mirror and not Itachi. What about Draphsin? He has nothing to do with Itachi yet he's defending Yata Mirror. Itachi might be my favourite (alongside Minato) but that doesn't make me a fanboy. It's funny when idiots lose arguments they instantly revert to calling me an Itachi fanboy.



What KidGamer65 said about the Totsuka and TBB is a Jutsu. Kishimoto was clearly speaking through Itachi when he said every Jutsu has a weakness, and that's why he countered Chibaku Tensei right after he said that, it might have been 3 people but it had a weakness and Itachi found that out, nearly instantly.

So what's the weakness in being able to literally create anything out of nothing?

Also Kabutowari is said to be able to destroy any and all defenses

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Madara's susanoo sword is said to break all creation

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so how does yata mirror defend against that which can break any defense?

 

[Draphsin]

where in the manga that showed yata can change its shape depending on the attack to protect all susano
you just talk and you didn't answer my rest post so i'll repeat him

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Changes every one of its properties, shape is a property, but if that's not enough, look at how far yata extends its shape

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This is clear concise proof that yata can change its shape (the shield extends past susanoo's head)

so any so strong attack which can affect sasuke's susano can affect itachi's one from the back or even if it is huge jutsu which can include all susano as(naruto's giant biju doma,jiubi's bombs,may hirudora)
where was the yata when itachi fallen in tayua's ginjutus(attack)
where was the yata when itachi was affected by kabuto's sound and light jutsu(attack)
where was the yata when itachi was absorbed by chibaku tensi
so yata can't defend against gravity attacks so it can't defend against shinra tensi,banshu tain ,kamui

I dont know Itachi's fighting style, all of those scenarios are of edo itachi, who has no need to waste a susanoo hand on a shield...He's undead, his fighting style is different.

& I didnt say that yata cannot move... shinra tensei & bansho tenin do not penetrate yata's shield

kamui can warp anything to other dimension and it was said in data book that no defense can counter kamui and it is unmatched jutus
can you answer that ??

Kamui...

Kamui can be cancelled by kamui, so that statement where it "has no defence" is false. Kamui can defend against kamui, yata can change its properties to kamui in order to cancel kamui.

 

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Assumptions, bias, and laughable claims such as 'Kishimoto was speaking through Zetsu but he wasn't speaking through Madara'. These arguments are piss poor and not backed by canon. Pretty much all of the elite weapons or Jutsu in this manga have been described with some sort of imagery or hyperbole, and yet, some ignore the obvious cries of logic and reason in order to senselessly back their favourite characters. You're pulling shit out of your arse, especially with that first sentence. I never said you were an fanboy. I just made an obvious and, quite frankly, unsurprising observation.

Well actually they are backed up by the Manga and data book. You can tell if Kishimoto is stating something through a character by the way they say something. Madara said that his sword can slash through anything in this universe. Does that mean it can slash through the entire earth? No it doesn't. Kishimoto wasn't directly stating that through Madara yet he was through Zetsu as he said that Yata Mirror can repel any attack and so on. Kishimoto was clearly trying to state that through Zetsu the same way he stated that every Jutsu has a weakness through Itachi and then shows next Itachi figuring out Chibaku Tensei's weakness.

Also, you was trying to call me a fanboy, you know that I proved I wasn't with my comment about me talking about Yata Mirror and not Itachi and so now you're trying to say you wasn't.

Edit: What you all seem to forget is that Yata Mirror changes it's attributes to what is needed to block any attack. Does TBB, PS Slash, Kamui and other very strong and good Jutsu change it's attributes to harm anything that it couldn't harm before? No they don't, while Yata Mirror does change it's attributes to block any and all attacks.

I'm just gonna say the same thing I said in another thread.

None of those defensive techniques change their attributes to what is needed to block the incoming attack though does it? People can use what that defence is weak to and then destroy that defence. They can't do that to Yata Mirror as it does change it's attributes to what is needed to fully block the incoming attacks.

 

[Draphsin]

Yata Mirror is part of this universe.

Perfect Susano'o smashes all things in this universe.

Yata Mirror is smashed to pieces.

The bold is just buffoonery.

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Nope...

yata mirror is not from this universe, its spiritual. Is RDS from this universe? No, it resides in another plain of existence, separate from the physical universe....

 

[OnPoint]

Well actually they are backed up by the Manga and data book. You can tell if Kishimoto is stating something through a character by the way they say something. Madara said that his sword can slash through anything in this universe. Does that mean it can slash through the entire earth? No it doesn't. Kishimoto wasn't directly stating that through Madara yet he was through Zetsu as he said that Yata Mirror can repel any attack and so on. Kishimoto was clearly trying to state that through Zetsu the same way he stated that every Jutsu has a weakness through Itachi and then shows next Itachi figuring out Chibaku Tensei's weakness.

Also, you was trying to call me a fanboy, you know that I proved I wasn't with my comment about me talking about Yata Mirror and not Itachi and so now you're trying to say you wasn't.

All of it. It's all hyperoble. I can't believe you're so blatently regarding that which must be obvious to even the youngest readers of this manga. The Yata Mirror can't block everything if Perfect Susano'o can destroy all creation and Kabutowari can break any defence. It's a paradox. The Sandaime Raikage couldn't have both an ultimate offence and an ultimate defence, and we saw what happened when the two came into contact. The shield lost. What, do you still think Amaterasu is as hot as the sun? You're actually saying;

Everything is a lie except what has been said about Itachi. Derp.

I mean, you people must be trolling because this isn't logic. This is just senseless ranting. lolwut? Where are you getting this 'Kishimoto was speaking through Zetsu' nonsense from? Your psyche? I'm baffled. I'm actually baffled as to how you can think these claims are backed by canon. I may as well claim Kishimoto was airing his opinion through Madara. Poor.

I said you had an Itachi avatar, an Itachi-based signature and two titles relating to Itachi. I never directly called you a fanboy, but god do your arguments reek of bias.

 

[OnPoint]

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Nope...

yata mirror is not from this universe, its spiritual. Is RDS from this universe? No, it resides in another plain of existence, separate from the physical universe....

Trolling? Everything is a part of the Narutoverse. It doesn't need to be born from physical material. Of course the Shiki Fuujin is of that universe. Don't confuse the universe with dimensions or the like. Everything is enclosed by that which is known as the Narutoverse. What, did Itachi block Sasuke's attacks from a separate universe? Itachi is there, and so is his shield. They are both a part of the Narutoverse.

 

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All of it. It's all hyperoble. I can't believe you're so blatently regarding that which must be obvious to even the youngest readers of this manga. The Yata Mirror can't block everything if Perfect Susano'o can destroy all creation and Kabutowari can break any defence. It's a paradox. The Sandaime Raikage couldn't have both an ultimate offence and an ultimate defence, and we saw what happened when the two came into contact. The shield lost. What, do you still think Amaterasu is as hot as the sun? You're actually saying;

Everything is a lie except what has been said about Itachi. Derp.

I mean, you people must be trolling because this isn't logic. This is just senseless ranting. lolwut? Where are you getting this 'Kishimoto was speaking through Zetsu' nonsense from? Your psyche? I'm baffled. I'm actually baffled as to how you can think these claims are backed by canon. I may as well claim Kishimoto was airing his opinion through Madara. Poor.

I said you had an Itachi avatar, an Itachi-based signature and two titles relating to Itachi. I never directly called you a fanboy, but god do your arguments reek of bias.

I meant the Yata Mirror argument was backed up by Manga fact and that you can tell if Kishimoto is speaking through a character to confirm something is true and so on...

You keep ignoring manga facts, Yata Mirror can block everything as it has been stated in the Manga and even the data book say's so as well.

Having an Itachi based anything doesn't matter seeing as someone could have Itachi getting killed by different fodder. That wouldn't make him a fanboy though?

Here's two questions:

Can Madara's Susano'o slash change it's attributes to cut through anything it's trying to cut through?

Can Yata Mirror change it's attributes to block any incoming attack?

Answer's based on Manga fact and some from the data book:

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Answer to first question is no, and yes to the second.

 

[Draphsin]

Trolling? Everything is a part of the Narutoverse. It doesn't need to be born from physical material. Of course the Shiki Fuujin is of that universe.

Your logic dictates that PS can destroy things such as RDS or soul dragon, which have no physical form & do not reside in their plain of existence, but another...

Of course RDS is part of the narutoverse, but madara wasnt talking about the "narutoverse" now was he?

What, did Itachi block Sasuke's attacks from a separate universe? Itachi is there, and so is his shield. They are both a part of the Narutoverse.

Manga states that yata can block physical & spiritual attacks, despite it being a strictly spiritual weapon.

His shield is spiritual, it doesnt have a form in the physical universe, just like RDS & soul dragon.

 

[OnPoint]

I meant the Yata Mirror argument was backed up by Manga fact and that you can tell if Kishimoto is speaking through a character to confirm something is true and so on...

The Perfect Susano'o argument is backed by manga fact. There is no difference between what Madara said and what Zetsu stated.

You keep ignoring manga facts, Yata Mirror can block everything as it has been stated in the Manga and even the data book say's so as well.

No, YOU keep ignoring manga fax. Perfect Susano'o can destroy all things in the universe. Kabutowari can break all defences. The Yata Mirror is a form of defence. Now what? Wait, let me guess. Anything which boosts Itachi is true, and anything that doesn't is false.

Having an Itachi based anything doesn't matter seeing as someone could have Itachi getting killed by different fodder. That wouldn't make him a fanboy though?

Your arguments are both fallacious & biased towards the item possessed by a character represented through four aspects of your account. Coincidental? I think not.

Here's two questions:

Can Madara's Susano'o slash change it's attributes to cut through anything it's trying to cut through?

No, because it smashes everything with its overwhelmingly uncommon raw power.

Can Yata Mirror change it's attributes to block any incoming attack?

It can't change if it's broken.

Answer's based on Manga fact and some from the data book:

Spoiler

Answer to first question is no, and yes to the second.

The answer based on manga fact is both items have had their attributes heavily overexaggerated. To any unbiased reader, this is obvious.

 

[Bogard]

It's quite simple. Sound genjutsu is an attack. Yata can't protect the user against it and thus making it's hype wrong

 

[OnPoint]

Your logic dictates that PS can destroy things such as RDS or soul dragon, which have no physical form & do not reside in their plain of existence, but another...

Of course RDS is part of the narutoverse, but madara wasnt talking about the "narutoverse" now was he?

So then if the Yata Mirror doesn't reside in this universe, Itachi has no shield. It's not there, according to this particular cognitive process. The Mirror physically repelled Orochimaru's Yamata. It's there. It can be hit. It can be overwhelmed, clearly.

Madara wasn't talking about the Narutoverse? This is Naruto. He explicitly mentions the Universe. And you're saying he wasn't talking about the Naruto-verse?

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Manga states that yata can block physical & spiritual attacks, despite it being a strictly spiritual weapon.

His shield is spiritual, it doesnt have a form in the physical universe, just like RDS & soul dragon.

And yet attacks don't phase through it. It comes into physical contact with what it repels; that is an undeniable fact. If it physically tries to block Madara's creation destroying attack, it, being a part of the Universe, will be subject to the hype which Madara's blade received - all conquering.

 

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The Perfect Susano'o argument is backed by manga fact. There is no difference between what Madara said and what Zetsu stated.



No, YOU keep ignoring manga fax. Perfect Susano'o can destroy all things in the universe. Kabutowari can break all defences. The Yata Mirror is a form of defence. Now what? Wait, let me guess. Anything which boosts Itachi is true, and anything that doesn't is false.



Your arguments are both fallacious & biased towards the item possessed by a character represented through four aspects of your account. Coincidental? I think not.



No, because it smashes everything with its overwhelmingly uncommon raw power.



It can't change if it's broken.



The answer based on manga fact is both items have had their attributes heavily overexaggerated. To any unbiased reader, this is obvious.

The massive difference is that Yata Mirror changes to anything needed to block the incoming attack that includes Madara's Susano'o sword slash. Actually you keep ignoring Manga facts... Yata Mirror can change it's attributes to block PS Slash and so it's clear that Madara was hyping himself up and showing of to the 5 Kage.

It's not because Itachi has it, it's just that I've started seeing idiots say that Yata Mirror can be broken, can't block everything and can only block elemental type attacks which are all wrong and so I made the thread to prove that they're wrong and try to teach them that they are wrong and what the correct effect of Yata Mirror is, I did not make it because Itachi has it. Even if Iruka had Yata Mirror with the same facts given then I would have made this thread.

@bold, it doesn't break because it changes to whatever is needed to block the incoming attack.

No, you are now just trying to copy the word attribute, this is getting stupid, first you try to indirectly call me a fanboy then deny it, now you try to say both have a high amount of hype to their attributes which isn't true. Madara was trying to hype himself up and make himself look good in front of the 5 Kage and he was trying to make them lose hope, clearly Madara was wrong about his PS Slash being able to cut anything as it can't cut through Yata Mirror.

 

[Exaar]

Well first, I have seen many people trying to say the Yata Mirror can be broken, and they try to say which attacks can do it, even though none can. They keep trying to go against Manga facts and think that they are right and that their opinions are right as well. Well they aren't as the manga itself has said that the Yata Mirror reverses all attacks.

As seen here the manga states it:

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It even states it in the data book:

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So that easily proves the Yata Mirror doesn't only reflect or block Elemental attacks but all attacks. It's also been said to alter it's attributes to negate the incoming attack and that's why it can block every and anything.

Databook also claim that kumai cannot be defended against, So i'd like to see Yata reflect/defend against an indefensible attack

 

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Databook also claim that kumai cannot be defended against, So i'd like to see Yata reflect/defend against an indefensible attack

Well Kamui blocks Maui so whatever Kamui's attribute is, the shield will use that attribute and block it. Any more?

Edit: It's also stated in the Manga that it's all attacks.

 

[Exaar]

Well Kamui blocks Maui so whatever Kamui's attribute is, the shield will use that attribute and block it. Any more?

Edit: It's also stated in the Manga that it's all attacks.

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"against this technique no defense is possible. No matter what".

 

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"against this technique no defense is possible. No matter what".

Yet Obito said Kamui wont work on him as he can block it with Kamui, Kamui has attributes, Yata Mirror changes to that attribute and blocks it. Do you really still think this is not true?

Edit: The data book stated that Kumai is un block able, yet the Manga and data book said the Yata Mirror can block any and all attacks. Which one sounds more reliable?