Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

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@bold, We don't know what can block Jinton and we may never know but that doesn't matter, Yata Mirror will still change it's attributes into what is needed to block Jinton, or at least negate it.

Also it never stated only Nature type attacks it said all attacks, that's one of the most commonly used argument that it apparently said only Nature type attacks when in fact it said all attacks.


I agree with what ur stating but I agree but u have no proof tht there r attributes that can block or negate jinton


It was stated in the war tht the only thing to stop jinton is another jinton user so unless the mirror can turn itself into onooki or mu (those two being the only users in the naruto verse) it shouldn't have any way to stop it

I call truce cuz this is getting us no where

Ur stating we may not know what blocks jinton by we do know yeta mirror should be able to turn into what ever it is

I'm stating tht the only possible way to stop jinton is to make the one thts casting jinton go against another jinton user


Ur an excellent debater I'm happy to met one like u I hope we get to debate like this in near future it was fun
 

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The manga sometimes changes the rules, like how most ninja in part 1 said the 3rd is the god of shinobi..
 

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I agree with what ur stating but I agree but u have no proof tht there r attributes that can block or negate jinton


It was stated in the war tht the only thing to stop jinton is another jinton user so unless the mirror can turn itself into onooki or mu (those two being the only users in the naruto verse) it shouldn't have any way to stop it

I call truce cuz this is getting us no where

Ur stating we may not know what blocks jinton by we do know yeta mirror should be able to turn into what ever it is

I'm stating tht the only possible way to stop jinton is to make the one thts casting jinton go against another jinton user


Ur an excellent debater I'm happy to met one like u I hope we get to debate like this in near future it was fun

Thanks, you to. :)

The manga sometimes changes the rules, like how most ninja in part 1 said the 3rd is the god of shinobi..

That's true but it hasn't been changed yet, so at the moment it can block all attacks as the Manga hasn't changed that fact.
 

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How about someone digs under Itachi.
Then they come up and shoot a TBB?

Where would be Yata Mirror then?
 

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Okay, and yata mirror can change its shape depending on the attack, it surrounds itself...



& I corrected mydelf when I saw the effect jinton has on jinton, therefore yata mirror would not turn into jinton as it created a massive explosion instead of blocking the attack.



Yata mirror will find the right properties in order to stop jinton, what it changes into is of no relevance.



No actually, yata mirror is a magical spiritual weapon. saying that it can be destroyed is far fetched

If it surrounds itself the jinton the caster castes would still rap itself around it and the caster would still be able to control the properties/ monlicules

As for u saying it can't be destroyed because its a spiritual weapon and saying its far fetch I kinda laugh at tht because yata mirror is considered one of the sacred treasures in naruto the others being itachi's sword of towsaka ( can't spell )
The other being orochimaru sword of kansanji (can't spell)

With tht being said in the fight with 4tailed naruto , naruto was about to break it when orochimaru contracted it back

oro knew it was about to be broken a sword (just like yata mirror) was said to be indestructible and can pierce to anything

So this proves tht even if it said its indrestructbile kishimoto writes in the moment and often contradicts himself
 

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How about someone digs under Itachi.
Then they come up and shoot a TBB?

Where would be Yata Mirror then?
It seems to be able to be used like a force field, which would go under him as well.
 

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@bold, We don't know what can block Jinton and we may never know but that doesn't matter, Yata Mirror will still change it's attributes into what is needed to block Jinton, or at least negate it.

Also it never stated only Nature type attacks it said all attacks, that's one of the most commonly used argument that it apparently said only Nature type attacks when in fact it said all attacks.

Jinton is a combination of Elements and Yata Mirror is only engraved with the basic 5.
Jinton would completely destroy Yata Mirror as soon as Itachi's Susnao'o gets in the box.
 

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What good is yata mirror when you can only use it for 2 minutes. Lol
 

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If it surrounds itself the jinton the caster castes would still rap itself around it and the caster would still be able to control the properties/ monlicules

You're going around in circles...yata will surround itself & the yata mirror will provide a defense against jinton...Onoki/Muu cant manipulate yata mirror if it changes its properties to defend against it...

As for u saying it can't be destroyed because its a spiritual weapon and saying its far fetch I kinda laugh at tht because yata mirror is considered one of the sacred treasures in naruto the others being itachi's sword of towsaka ( can't spell )
The other being orochimaru sword of kansanji (can't spell)

Lol im kinda laughing at this response, how does that change the fact that its a spiritual magical weapon?

With tht being said in the fight with 4tailed naruto , naruto was about to break it when orochimaru contracted it back

oro knew it was about to be broken a sword (just like yata mirror) was said to be indestructible and can pierce to anything

Sword of kusanagi is physical, thats where the difference lies...

You cant compare a physical object that can attack on 1 pain to a spiritual weapon that can defend on 2 plains.

Spiritual > physical,

So this proves tht even if it said its indrestructbile kishimoto writes in the moment and often contradicts himself

No, there is no contradiction. the sword is physical, these weapons are not. RDS was able to pierce kurama, thats because its a spiritual object. Kusanagi is not spiritual..

Jinton is a combination of Elements and Yata Mirror is only engraved with the basic 5.
Jinton would completely destroy Yata Mirror as soon as Itachi's Susnao'o gets in the box.

Jinton is a combination of 3 out of the 5 elements.

Who said its engraved with the basic 5 & not combinations? If thats the case then lava > yata mirror?? Please dont try this logic U_U.
 

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Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

The weakness is that Itachi can only use it for a very short amount of time before he collapses.

And that's all that is needed. To out last Itachi while driving him to use the Mirror.
 

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TBB >>>> YATA

KCM naruto >> Itachi i dunno abt u but real itachi fanboyz like blaze n others agreed to this
 

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lol yata mirror is featless. It canonically blocked a petty sword slash and paper bomb, it wasn't up against stronger attacks like TBB, shinra tensei, jinton, etc.

itachi proved that yata mirror will not work against CT, He instead asked help from naruto and bee to use their STRONGEST long range attack.


oh and if you want to go by the facts stated in the databook. you should also believe that there is no DEFENSE against kamui.

yata=defense and defense<kamui, therefore kamui>yata.
 
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lol yata mirror is featless. It canonically blocked a petty sword slash and paper bomb, it wasn't up against stronger attacks like TBB, shinra tensei, jinton, etc.

itachi proved that yata mirror will not work against CT, He instead asked help from naruto and bee to use their STRONGEST long range attack.


oh and if you want to go by the facts stated in the databook. you should also believe that there is no DEFENSE against kamui.

yata=defense and defense<kamui, therefore kamui>yata.

wrong Kumai is a S/T technique, an astral attack, guess what? Yata Mirror deflects astral attacks
 

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wrong Kumai is a S/T technique, an astral attack, guess what? Yata Mirror deflects astral attacks

nope, your opinion <<<<<<<<<<<<<< databook.

you can understand the meaning of "NO DEFENSE AGAINST KAMUI"? don't you?

it may not break the yata but it can definitely warp it out of itachi's hands.
 

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nope, your opinion <<<<<<<<<<<<<< databook.

you can understand the meaning of "NO DEFENSE AGAINST KAMUI"? don't you?

it may not break the yata but it can definitely warp it out of itachi's hands.

You do realize the hype of both techniques cancel each other out?

Yata is spiritual shield and kamui is a spiritual attack.. if there's anything capable of blocking its a magical item

Kamui warps things on the physical plane... yata exists where it has to...

Kamui cannot warp something like dan in his spirit mode
 

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It would be useless as a defense against Chibaku Tensie cause even if he manages to stay alive within the Chibaku Tensie he will die with no food and water and the aids will soon hunt him down ;)
 

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You do realize the hype of both techniques cancel each other out?

Yata is spiritual shield and kamui is a spiritual attack.. if there's anything capable of blocking its a magical item

Kamui warps things on the physical plane... yata exists where it has to...

Kamui cannot warp something like dan in his spirit mode

lol so you mean yata has mind of its own?.. nowhere in manga said that kamui cannot warp that spirit mode. kamui warps everything on to the parallel world, its no exception.


besides,dan's ghost mode is different from yata. because yata has its physical form that's why sasuke and zetsu can see it and that is why it can block physical attacks.

just needs common sense really.
 
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If you're going to claim kamui can warp spiritual entities, prove it

... what are you talking about? you can see spiritual beings.. you can see dan in spirit form, you can see the death god.. you can see Nagato's gedo mazo purple dragons.(w.e the name is)
 
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