Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

[TheTailedSage]

Itachi was sick looking from having to use Susano'o in his weak state and the fact that he was ill. Not because of the Kirin, if Susano'o blocked Kirin he still wouldn't have had any effect to himself as it's been blocked by Susano'o...


I'm not sure about top 5 but defiantly top 10.

its like what you and others are saying, yata mirror should render any attack useless, regardless of the users condition. Itachi barely had time to even activate susano. Show me proof that yata blocked kirin becuase saying yata blocked it is a big contradiction to its explaination. If yata blocked it then it wasn't doing its job properly

 

[Draphsin]

Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Completely agree, but this will not stop the non-believers Lol.

 

[VongolaX]

Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

I thank you. However, this weapons are "fueled" with Chakra to stablize. I don't know, made that up. But hey! Every Jutsu has a weakness. My theory was sound.

hope you realize that chakra and stamina are two different things, itachi himself has very powerful chakra because he is an uchiha

 

[Fanta]

i think the idoits saying it can be broken should be ignored.

This is one of the reasons why itachi is top 5.

Give the man his credit instead of hateing on him

He isn't top 5. He's 8th on my list.

1. Hashirama Senju
2. Madara Uchiha
3. Obito Uchiha
4. Healthy Nagato Uzumaki
5. Naruto Uzumaki
6. Kabuto Yakushi (DSM, not current Kabuto in Izanami)
7. Sasuke Uchiha
8. Itachi Uchiha
9. Minato Namikaze
10. Orochimaru (No Edo's)

 

[Recable]

Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Hey nice thread by any chance to you make this because you saw my friend? I'm not sure just asking.

The weakness is that Itachi can only use it for a very short amount of time before he collapses.

This is the only downside to Yata Mirror while being used by Itachi he most likely has to use Susano'o to use it and so he can't use t for a long time.

 

[CamW]

Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Then neither item has no known weakness. Not made of chakra either, so it cannot be absorbed by preta path, or wood dragon.

There should be no argument

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Do you now know the meaning of "render any attack useless"

You have no proof that onoki can control jinton that's been negated by yata mirror, for all we know the jutsu could just automatically deactivate. Point is that yata mirror changes into anything in order to negate the attack.

If onoki is still able to manipulate jinton then the attack isnt negated now is it? Im sorry but theres no loophole here :'(.

Who said jinton is only used as an attack >.> like u said I have no proof tht onooki can control dust release thrs been blocked by yeta mirror
U have no proof tht it can just how u say it " deactivate" how can u block from something tht has no counter ??????
Kishimoto made yeta mirror before he made jinton his manga is full of plot holes

Ur logic is basically yeta mirror can block all attacks and make them useless that was said before jinton came into
Play

My logic
Is tht jinton surrounds the target and turning it into micro monlicules there allowing the caster to control them
This was stated after yeta mirror it doesn't say in its bio except for yeta mirror it gives caster control of all monlicules inside of it..

So with that being said u basically closed ur own thread because neither of us knows what would happen if the two collides

But what we do know is tht one (yeta mirror)was written in the story before the other (jinton)
So there for what ever was written before (jinton) shouldn't apply to it since it clearly states it turns anything wether supposedly indestructible or not into dust


Even if u don't go for tht theory u can't prove tht yeta mirror can just how u say it "negate" jinton since all it's properties were made by kishimoto before jinton came into play and hasn't been updated since it came into play

 

[Recable]

its like what you and others are saying, yata mirror should render any attack useless, regardless of the users condition. Itachi barely had time to even activate susano. Show me proof that yata blocked kirin becuase saying yata blocked it is a big contradiction to its explaination. If yata blocked it then it wasn't doing its job properly

But Itachi didn't feel any pain form Kirin, he looked in pain from having a bad disease, using up so much chakra, using Susano'o while near death and also near to no chakra and so on. If Yata Mirror or Susano'o itself blocked Kirin he still would have looked that way.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I can see where you're coming from but just because the Yata Mirror changes into Dust release (if it does) to block Dust release that doesn't mean Onoki could control it as it's still equipped to Itachi's Susano'o and as Itachi controls Susano'o he also controls the Yata Mirror.

He doesn't control it really it clearly states yeta mirror automatically changes into what ever is needed to block the attack it does it on its own not by itachi... It's like gaara's automatic defense when he tried to cut himself the sand still stopped him against his will

U still cannot deny the fact tht the only way to counter dust release isn't dust release itself its another dust releaSe user
Because it can turn into dust release all it wants it u have nothing to control it its just dust onooki would there for be able to overturn it and control all of the dust because he controls all the monlicules of the dust release in first place
Dust release wraps around the target with tht being said it controls all the monlicules inside

 

[Draphsin]

Who said jinton is only used as an attack >.> like u said I have no proof tht onooki can control dust release thrs been blocked by yeta mirror
U have no proof tht it can just how u say it " deactivate" how can u block from something tht has no counter ??????
Kishimoto made yeta mirror before he made jinton his manga is full of plot holes

Ur logic is basically yeta mirror can block all attacks and make them useless that was said before jinton came into
Play

My logic
Is tht jinton surrounds the target and turning it into micro monlicules there allowing the caster to control them
This was stated after yeta mirror it doesn't say in its bio except for yeta mirror it gives caster control of all monlicules inside of it..

So with that being said u basically closed ur own thread because neither of us knows what would happen if the two collides

But what we do know is tht one (yeta mirror)was written in the story before the other (jinton)
So there for what ever was written before (jinton) shouldn't apply to it since it clearly states it turns anything wether supposedly indestructible or not into dust


Even if u don't go for tht theory u can't prove tht yeta mirror can just how u say it "negate" jinton since all it's properties were made by kishimoto before jinton came into play and hasn't been updated since it came into play

Your entire premise is based on the fact that you think jinton can negate jinton

this is what jinton does when coming into contact with another jinton

You must be registered for see images

Manga states that yata mirror changes to negate the attack, jinton doesnt negate or reflect jinton apparently, so it wont be used...

 

[TheTailedSage]

But Itachi didn't feel any pain form Kirin, he looked in pain from having a bad disease, using up so much chakra, using Susano'o while near death and also near to no chakra and so on. If Yata Mirror or Susano'o itself blocked Kirin he still would have looked that way.

Your assuming that was the case but the most logical answer is that susano'o itself protected him from the huge impact. Not yata. He wouldn't have enough time to sheild himself from some coming at him at lightning speed. Yes I agree he had a little chakra left but its a mere assumptuon as to why he was on the floor. If the fatigue of using too much chakra affected him he wouldn't of used susano'o after kirin. But he did which is one of the reasons as to why I'm saying yata had nothing to do in the kirin attack

 

[Owarij]

Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Hey nice thread by any chance to you make this because you saw my friend? I'm not sure just asking.



This is the only downside to Yata Mirror while being used by Itachi he most likely has to use Susano'o to use it and so he can't use t for a long time.

Yeaa , I made it due to the comments in that thread and other comments and threads I've seen over the past few weeks.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Your entire premise is based on the fact that you think jinton can negate jinton

this is what jinton does when coming into contact with another jinton

You must be registered for see images

Manga states that yata mirror changes to negate the attack, jinton doesnt negate or reflect jinton apparently, so it wont be used...

Dude u r the one who brought up the yeta mirror would turn into jinton to negate it


Also tht type is one type of jinton I was talking about the cubed one tht surrounds its target giving the caster complete control of the monlicules inside of it

The one ur talking about is a complete blast aimed at the target to neutralize it and turn it into dust completely

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

i agree great thread

 

[Recable]

Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Yeaa , I made it due to the comments in that thread and other comments and threads I've seen over the past few weeks.

Yeah, some haters can't seem to get over the fact that the Yata Mirror can block any attack.

 

[Draphsin]

Dude u r the one who brought up the yeta mirror would turn into jinton to negate it

& dude, my point is crystal clear....Yata changes into anything
in order to negate jinton. Apparently jinton doesnt negate jinton so it wont be used but rather something else...

Also tht type is one type of jinton I was talking about the cubed one tht surrounds its target giving the caster complete control of the monlicules inside of it

Really....? The shape makes no difference :| the point is that its jinton & thats what jinton does to jinton.........

The one ur talking about is a complete blast aimed at the target to neutralize it and turn it into dust completely

1) first prove that the two jinton's are different

2) Why would that even make a difference? how can you blatantly make up excuses for what we've seen in the manga. Kishi showed us 2 jintons colliding, & the result was what we saw....Until shown otherwise, that is how jinton will react to jinton.

 

[Recable]

Your assuming that was the case but the most logical answer is that susano'o itself protected him from the huge impact. Not yata. He wouldn't have enough time to sheild himself from some coming at him at lightning speed. Yes I agree he had a little chakra left but its a mere assumptuon as to why he was on the floor. If the fatigue of using too much chakra affected him he wouldn't of used susano'o after kirin. But he did which is one of the reasons as to why I'm saying yata had nothing to do in the kirin attack

My bad I went and re-read the part where Itachi blocked Kirin and it was actually blocked by a lower level of Susano'o which wasn't using the shield.

Edit: But still, it was still said that it can block any attack.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

& dude, my point is crystal clear....Yata changes into anything
in order to negate jinton. Apparently jinton doesnt negate jinton so it wont be used but rather something else...



Really....? The shape makes no difference :| the point is that its jinton & thats what jinton does to jinton.........



1) first prove that the two jinton's are different

2) Why would that even make a difference? how can you blatantly make up excuses for what we've seen in the manga. Kishi showed us 2 jintons colliding, & the result was what we saw....Until shown otherwise, that is how jinton will react to jinton.

Ok one is just a blast (thts the one u showed us)

The other raps around the target (cubed)

Ok and as far as jinton blocking jinton ur the one tht said yeta mirror would turn itself into jinton to block it in the first place


Ur theory on yeta mirror would turn itself into something tht can stop jinton but what can stop jinton ??? When u tell me this then I will clearly say u when and don't say kamoi because it states yeta mirror can turn itself into any nature type kamoi isn't a nature kamoi isn't a nature and u can't replicate sharigan abilities each sharigan is unique the yeta mirror would there for have to personally change into obito's eye and be able to use it

And u have to admit tht sounds far fetched

 

[Recable]

Ok one is just a blast (thts the one u showed us)

The other raps around the target (cubed)

Ok and as far as jinton blocking jinton ur the one tht said yeta mirror would turn itself into jinton to block it in the first place


Ur theory on yeta mirror would turn itself into something tht can stop jinton but what can stop jinton ??? When u tell me this then I will clearly say u when and don't say kamoi because it states yeta mirror can turn itself into any nature type kamoi isn't a nature kamoi isn't a nature and u can't replicate sharigan abilities each sharigan is unique the yeta mirror would there for have to personally change into obito's eye and be able to use it

And u have to admit tht sounds far fetched

@bold, We don't know what can block Jinton and we may never know but that doesn't matter, Yata Mirror will still change it's attributes into what is needed to block Jinton, or at least negate it.

Also it never stated only Nature type attacks it said all attacks, that's one of the most commonly used argument that it apparently said only Nature type attacks when in fact it said all attacks.

 

[Draphsin]

Ok one is just a blast (thts the one u showed us)

The other raps around the target (cubed)

Okay, and yata mirror can change its shape depending on the attack, it surrounds itself...

Ok and as far as jinton blocking jinton ur the one tht said yeta mirror would turn itself into jinton to block it in the first place

& I corrected mydelf when I saw the effect jinton has on jinton, therefore yata mirror would not turn into jinton as it created a massive explosion instead of blocking the attack.

Ur theory on yeta mirror would turn itself into something tht can stop jinton but what can stop jinton ??? When u tell me this then I will clearly say u when and don't say kamoi because it states yeta mirror can turn itself into any nature type kamoi isn't a nature kamoi isn't a nature and u can't replicate sharigan abilities each sharigan is unique the yeta mirror would there for have to personally change into obito's eye and be able to use it

Yata mirror will find the right properties in order to stop jinton, what it changes into is of no relevance.

And u have to admit tht sounds far fetched

No actually, yata mirror is a magical spiritual weapon. saying that it can be destroyed is far fetched