[Discussion] Abortion Questions?

[King Envy G]

Aborting a baby because you dont want to go through the pain of delivering it, well guess what they have options so you dont have to go through this pain, C-section and i believe there is this paralyzing medicine from the waist and below, so you wont have to go through any pain and just deliver.Why should the baby die cause the mom was scared to use her uterus. Its there for a reason .

Still that's painful experience to go through, Like imagine a 14-16 year old's case. If they were raped and did not want to even conceive the baby. The best option for them would be to just take the pill or get the procedure done ASAP.

 

[Kenotthib]

If there are tools to prevent the conception, then there would be no life in the first place; every single step to attain life would be removed, thus having no form of life at all. When there is nothing, there is void of consciousness.

In my opinion stopping the process is the same as killing the baby. Whether you killed a fetus or just a clump of cells it doesn't change the fact that you ended a person's/persons's (depending on the circumstances) chance at life.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Perhaps I should go more in depth. In the consequence part, I was referring to cases where people sleep around and neglect to use a condom and it results in a pregnancy.

It may sound harsh or whatever, but in that case, the pregnancy is a consequence of negligence and a child is the result.

One-sided logic, though?

You're saying that, if a person succumbs to debauchery and get pregnant, she should have to deal with it? The child has to suffer, for the mother's mistake? I'm going to assume this belief stems from religion...

I blame religion...

Edit:

You people act as if you can "feel" yourself being aborted. It's literally painless, and like I said before, if I was aborted, I wouldn't, and couldn't, provide any f*cks to give.

 

[Unbiased King]

One-sided logic, though?

You're saying that, if a person succumbs to debauchery and get pregnant, she should have to deal with it? The child has to suffer, for the mother's mistake? I'm going to assume this belief stems from religion...

I blame religion...

Edit:

You people act as if you can "feel" yourself being aborted. It's literally painless, and like I said before, if I was aborted, I wouldn't, and couldn't, provide any f*cks to give.

Riker doesn't seem to blame the actual action of ***, but the action of not using proper contraceptive.

 

[Punk Hazard]

One-sided logic, though?

You're saying that, if a person succumbs to debauchery and get pregnant, she should have to deal with it? The child has to suffer, for the mother's mistake? I'm going to assume this belief stems from religion...

I blame religion...

Edit:

You people act as if you can "feel" yourself being aborted. It's literally painless, and like I said before, if I was aborted, I wouldn't, and couldn't, provide any f*cks to give.

LOL, you think I'm religious...

My beliefs on abortion stem from my belief that no one has the right to decide whether or not someone else lives.

Riker doesn't seem to blame the actual action of ***, but the action of not using proper contraceptive.

THANK YOU!

If you jump into traffic, whose fault is it that you get hurt?

 

[l Forgotten l]

Still that's painful experience to go through, Like imagine a 14-16 year old's case. If they were raped and did not want to even conceive the baby. The best option for them would be to just take the pill or get the procedure done ASAP.

The best option is to put the baby up to the people who cant have kids and are thirsty for them. As a teen, and if some guy came and raped, i got pregnant, there is no way in hell,i would kill my baby ever never, i dont care if my azz got to die giving birth, i will never kill my child. Its the females body yes, i just dont believe in abortion.

 

[King Envy G]

The best option is to put the baby up to the people who cant have kids and are thirsty for them. As a teen, and if some guy came and raped, i got pregnant, there is no way in hell,i would kill my baby ever never, i dont care if my azz got to die giving birth, i will never kill my child. Its the females body yes, i just dont believe in abortion.

But think about this though, if it's a week after the rape, its barely even a zygote, can you really call it a child before it's decided whether or not its even going to be a male or female? Like any time in the first 2 weeks we're not even talking about a child. Maybe like 3 months in, when Brainwaves are detectable, but until then... are you really killing something that's a human? It's just a clump of cells.....

 

[-Punk-]

I support abortions .....but it depends on the circumstances of course ...liike rape for example

#Believe in the shield

 

[FreakensteinAG]

In my opinion stopping the process is the same as killing the baby. Whether you killed a fetus or just a clump of cells it doesn't change the fact that you ended a person's/persons's (depending on the circumstances) chance at life.

No, you don't understand. This stops any conception from happening at all. Before the sperm touches the egg, or not even having an egg present at all.

 

[l Forgotten l]

But think about this though, if it's a week after the rape, its barely even a zygote, can you really call it a child before it's decided whether or not its even going to be a male or female? Like any time in the first 2 weeks we're not even talking about a child. Maybe like 3 months in, when Brainwaves are detectable, but until then... are you really killing something that's a human? It's just a clump of cells.....

Once that being is conceived , i consider that as a being. It doesnt matter if it is just a clump of cells, those cells will lead to something that looks like you and I...hopefully.
Abortion is killing, Killing is illegal in america
Edit: I am also exiting this thread.

 

[GEIxBattleRifle]

1. I don't support abortion. It's the coward's way out.

2. "I didn't want to have a baby, I forgot the condom!"
You should've been more responsible. It's called consequences.

3. "I was raped!"
And robbing this baby of his life will unrape you?

1. Getting a little aggressive with the wording I see here

2. Oh sorry bud there are not responsibilites nor consequences towards the unborn just mental roadblocks lifers like to put in the way. Most of the developed nations that have abortion legal made it quite clear it's the women't decision to continue the pregnancy or not.

3. The cold truth is that the unborn are easily replacable so it really doesn't matter and they're not even sentient nor have a mind when aborted 99% of the time

 

[The Madara Uchiha]

My opinion probably sounds wrong but I am against it until you're in the shoes that you may have accidentally gotten a woman pregnant. But if my wife got pregnant there would never be any abortions, I wouldn't see a need to.

So concluding it depends on circumstance but all in all I am against it.

 

[GEIxBattleRifle]

1.Abortion is killing, Killing is illegal in america

Depends on what kind of killing

We kill non human animals daily so it should be made illegal and everyone will be a vegetarian then

What you could be saying is that murder is illegal which btw is the killing of a person and the human fetus is not a person thus it can be killed and it is not a person until it is born which is how it currently is throughout most of the developed nations

 

[Kenotthib]

No, you don't understand. This stops any conception from happening at all. Before the sperm touches the egg, or not even having an egg present at all.

I think you don't understand me. In my opinion it doesn't matter how early the stage is ,your still removing the chance for someone being born and I said,"In my opinion stopping the process is the same as killing the baby." Those three words at the beginning have a big impact on how my statement is interpreted that's why I used them. So I'm basically repeating myself smh. Despite what stage the process is in your still preventing a life of being brought into the world. Even if you stopped it before it turned into a fetus, your interference prevented a life from coming into existence. Idk if you interpreted me wrong or not but I hope this clarifies what I'm trying to say.

 

[AkatsukiKoneko]

I believe it's the mother's choice, although I don't support it personally.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

I think you don't understand me. In my opinion it doesn't matter how early the stage is ,your still removing the chance for someone being born and I said,"In my opinion stopping the process is the same as killing the baby."

With condoms, injections, diaphragms, pills, what have you, there are no stages to begin with. This is before any fertilization happens. There is no "killing of the baby", if no formation of the "baby" happens. You're thinking there are stages already in development with these tools before they are put into use, which is simply not true.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

LOL, you think I'm religious...

My beliefs on abortion stem from my belief that no one has the right to decide whether or not someone else lives.

I'll give you my opinion, and this is coming from a guy,

If something unwanted is growing inside of me, making me sick, breaking my back, for nine months...you're getting removed.And that choice is mine, because it's inside of my own body.

If your existence rely's on my body, then your life is indeed, in my hands.

 

[Kenotthib]

With condoms, injections, diaphragms, pills, what have you, there are no stages to begin with. This is before any fertilization happens. There is no "killing of the baby", if no formation of the "baby" happens. You're thinking there are stages already in development with these tools before they are put into use, which is simply not true.

What do condoms have to do with abortion? What I was referring to was the development process being stopped and preventing the abortion. It doesn't matter if you got the abortion done through pills or any other means. And no I'm saying stopping the process from happening is considered in my opinion still killing the baby -_- for the 3rd time.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

What do condoms have to do with abortion? What I was referring to was the development process being stopped and preventing the abortion. It doesn't matter if you got the abortion done through pills or any other means. And no I'm saying stopping the process from happening is considered in my opinion still killing the baby -_- for the 3rd time.

It was because you asked whether or not contraception should be legal, while these tools are considered contraception. Planned Parenthood.

 

[Kenotthib]

Also you do realize to be considered pregnant a s-cell has to come in contact with a woman's egg and fertilization must occur? I think you may have confused birth control for a abortion. Birth control isn't the same thing as abortion.