Kamui is a Sound Technique - PROOF using the laws of physics!!!

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Let me say that this is a scientific explanation that may not be comprehended by 10year-olds and by people with half(or less) a brain. But if you're not one of those - keep reading.
Also this is a simplified explanation so it is easier to understand






First off lets start by me explaining that every single atom in the universe is 99.99999999999999999999999999999% empty space.

So then why are objects solid, why can we touch them?


Well actually you can't touch anything. Since actually touching something would mean that your atoms touch the atoms of what you're touching, and your and the objects atoms would merge due to the forces of atomic attraction.
This is what happens with liquids and gasses - they merge and become a new liquid or gas (or when a solid is dissolved in a liquid). Simply because when two atoms touch the electrons of one element start orbiting around the first element so both elements are connected by their electrons.
If you want to really touch something you'd have to become a liquid or gas, the object to become liquid or gas also and the two of you to merge together (or to be dissolved in acid..yuk..).




Then why you can touch objects and they feel solid?

The reason is that in the Universe two objects vibrating on the same friquency can't occupy the same physical space.
So when you get your atoms super close to the atoms of another object this law kicks into place meaning that both your atoms and the atoms of that object, can't both be occupying the same space. So the only solution is for the atoms of one of the object to move. And the atoms of the object that has the leas amount of energy just give in and move.
The thing you perceive as touch is simply you feeling the force with which the object is pushing back(Newton's law that every force has an opposite bur equal force(meaning when you punch a wall the wall punches your hand back with the exact same force you punched it first))




But what does all of this have to do with anything? - you might ask


Bare with me.

From this law comes something else: two objects can occupy the same space if they resonate/vibrate on a different frequency.
Meaning the objects are in different dimensions.




This is why objects that are in other dimensions(vibrating on a different frequencies) do not exist in out dimension.

Because for an object to exist in our dimension it has to vibrate on a specific frequency. And when it's not on that exact frequency it simply does not exist in out dimension (but still is in the same place in the Universe) - it exists in another dimension.
This is why there is the theory of the infinite parallel universes(actually the reason for that theory is another principle in the quantum physics relating to the spin of particles, but what I mean is that this shows that it is possible for infinite Universes to exist in the same place at the same time) - they all exist in the exact same place, but vibrate on different frequencies, so in every dimension there is only one Universe that exists.



This also means that if you knew that the frequency of some other dimension is and if you can make a certain object vibrate on that exact frequency - then you'll make it stop exist in out dimension and make it exist in another dimension(this is how Walter does it in the tv series - Fringe).

This is how Obito goes intangible and travels between dimensions - he changes the frequency on which his atoms vibrate.



Back to my point:


Sound is simply a wave moving trough matter(and yes air is matter - it is made out of different gasses (in outer space where there is no space but is rather vacuum - there is no sound)). And waves make objects vibrate(vibrations are simply waves passing trough an object) so basically sound can make objects vibrate and vice versa - vibrating objects make sounds (all you girls reading this turn on your vibrators and you know you can hear them "buzz-ing" ;) )



So the right sound on the right frequency can make an object vibrate on the frequency of another dimension



Meaning Obito's using sound(waves moving through matter) to change the frequency of vibration of his own particles and the particles of other things, and make them stop existing in out dimension, but makes them exist in another dimension. When he wants to come back - he simply has to make his particles vibrate on the frequency of our dimension.. and voila!








You're welcome NB. I hope you now understand how Kamui works and that it actually possible(but how to do it is far beyond our grasp).



Btw using physics I can write a thread explaining why it is possible to use chakra(energy) to create matter - meaning using chakra to create fire/water/earth/ every single jutsu is scientifically possible!


If you wish I write such a post please post it in the comments, saying that you want that explanation.
 

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Well it could probably be quite possible. But still Logic does not go hand by hand with Comic/manga/fantasy.
 

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It seems plausable; it explains really well; changing the frequencies of objects via vibration seems sensible to me.
But here is the thing: Kishi probably did not based kamui on this level of science...No hate but he made lightning>earth element.
But it was a good read anyways.
 

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So in your view a wormhole is opened using sound? I'd rather like to think Obito's technique allows him to open a wormhole to another dimension.....(the 5th dimension is donught shaped apparentl XD).....obviously that would require a ridiculous amount of power....but it's anime......it would require a ridiculous amount of power to create enough water to flood a basin, just from energy, like Kisame does, so there you go. But it's silly in my opnion to apply the laws of physics to anime, simply because it is an anime in which laws of physics do not apply, and if they did, we'd just be watching real life. But commendable explanation. I just feel it's wrong.:)
 

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Nope, it's a S/T tech...
It creates a dimensional portal at the focus of the user that warps in everything within range and the range is controlled by the user...
 

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So in your view a wormhole is opened using sound? I'd rather like to think Obito's technique allows him to open a wormhole to another dimension.....(the 5th dimension is donught shaped apparentl XD).....obviously that would require a ridiculous amount of power....but it's anime......it would require a ridiculous amount of power to create enough water to flood a basin, just from energy, like Kisame does, so there you go. But it's silly in my opnion to apply the laws of physics to anime, simply because it is an anime in which laws of physics do not apply, and if they did, we'd just be watching real life. But commendable explanation. I just feel it's wrong.:)


well actually a wormhole would transport matter and energy trough space not dimensions and it would take soooo much energy that it's not even funny
 

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Nope, it's a S/T tech...
It creates a dimensional portal at the focus of the user that warps in everything within range and the range is controlled by the user...

a dimensional portal i simply making an object vibrate on the frequency of another dimension.. it's not like a wormhole that transfers matter to another place in space
 

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There's no such a thing as a dimension! it's all fantasy...
 

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I agree with ur theory =D
Great work but I have to contradict with the last part about sound produces vibrations...
It's true that sound waves induce vibrations,but any form of energy incident on a body will induce vibrations.U can't be sure what kind of energy obito is using to mismatch or to match the vibrational frequency.So it can't be classified as a sound technique.
BTW what are you mate???
A physicist or something....You seem quite good at physics :erm:
 
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All I hear is blah blah what makes kamui a sound technique exactly? So sound is the only wave that has frequency?
 

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There's no such a thing as a dimension! it's all fantasy...

yes you are right, we are all living in the Matrix!

the year is not 2013 but rather 3013 and the worlds is ruled by machines who keep us here so they can use our bodies to fuel them

but to keep us from finding out, they give us the illusion of dimensions :)


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lol at people saying they feel this is wrong.

People may not think much, but this makes a lot of sense. I understand this right away, as one of my majors was physics/science. I know a lot, and I mean a LOT about atoms, particles, protons, nuetrons, electrons, molecules, you name it. Great thread.
 

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Putting the law of physics in Naruto will get you nowhere...
 

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I agree with ur theory =D
Great work but I have to contradict with the last part about sound produces vibrations...
It's true that sound waves induce vibrations,but any form of energy incident on a body will induce vibrations.So u can't be sure what kind of energy obito is using to mismatch or to match the frequency of vibration.So it can't be classified as a sound technique.
BTW what are you mate???
A physicist or something....You seem quite good at physics :erm:


nope I'm a 20 year old business major and physics is only a hobby

btw you got a point, but the title wouldn't sound contradicting enough without it ;) XD
 
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