I don't get why Blaze Release is an Advanced Nature.

[Biozim]

I mean, it's simply shape manipulating a fire jutsu(Ama), as stated by Cee when Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi was used in it's shield version.

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Most people say Advanced Natures are when someone with a KKG can mix two or more natures together to form a new one.

Yet Blaze isn't really something that fits into that catagory.

This could also mean that several Natures can simply be offshoots of certain Natures.

IE: Steel could originate from earth. Or Swift is the Body flicker technique, and maybe a nature like lightning, in an offensive form.

Either that or Kishi's contradicting himself.

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Because it isn't just a fire technique, it's a manipulation of a Mangekyo technique.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

its advanced because only sasuke can use it, not even itachi could use ama like sasuke can. Thus it is advanced because it takes proper skill, skill only sasuke is advanced enough to learn

 

[Biozim]

Because it isn't just a fire technique, it's a manipulation of a Mangekyo technique.

True, but, doesn't this kinda open up some of the other ways to create new Advanced natures other than fusing natures?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Its not manipulating the natural element.
Anything that is not a natural element is an advanced nature.


Something that is also worth mentioning is that lightning is basically super heated plasma and the amaterasu is was said to be hot as the sun.
(The Sun is a big ball of plasma) So you see it also fits thematically. Lightning + Fire = Blaze

 

[Solo]

Well.. I wouldn't call that advance seeing as Sasuke is the only one that can do it. More like unique.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

I got you, in my opinion, the whole enton thing he has is bullsh!t.

I mean, yeah, as we seen in the kage vs sasuke, sasuke used his mangekyo sharingan to manipulate the black flames.. But here's the thing, one eye has amaterasu, and the other eye can manipulate it's shape? That's stupid to me, why can't he just use it and manipulate it in one eye, and have a real actual technique in the other eye? He should've got tsukuyomi or something that doesn't involve amaterasu in the other eye.

My opinion though.

 

[juzumaki]

It is dark and fire combined

 

[Biozim]

its advanced because only sasuke can use it, not even itachi could use ama like sasuke can. Thus it is advanced because it takes proper skill, skill only sasuke is advanced enough to learn

Would make sense, but, I am saying that Advanced natures, as through reading the training chapters, explain those advanced natures, and the meaning for my confusion.

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[Biozim]

It is dark and fire combined

Dark release is a KKG that was from that Inheritors of the Will or something like that.

Ama and Blaze/Inferno is the manipulation of that MS skill

 

[From the Dark Spire]

its advanced because only sasuke can use it, not even itachi could use ama like sasuke can. Thus it is advanced because it takes proper skill, skill only sasuke is advanced enough to learn

Sir, 'advanced' does not mean only sasuke or which ever said person can do something..

The correct word to use is 'Unique'.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

It is dark and fire combined

Lightening and Fire combined.

 

[juzumaki]

Shadow style and fire style combined equal blaze release

 

[FireBird Marco]

It's a yin release!
Amaterasu is fire using yin chakra! I think hmm...

 

[Biozim]

Its not manipulating the natural element.
Anything that is not a natural element is an advanced nature.


Something that is also worth mentioning is that lightning is basically super heated plasma and the amaterasu is was said to be hot as the sun.
(The Sun is a big ball of plasma) So you see it also fits thematically. Lightning + Fire = Blaze

Seems reasonable.

Bit I always thought that Fire+Lightning COULD make Explosion(Most of them create BANG explosions and bursts and most explosions carry heat and such).

Either way, that does further my point on certain techniques create new ANs.

.....Narutopedia really needs a clean up.

 

[Biozim]

Shadow style and fire style combined equal blaze release

....No such thing.

Ama, and the Blaze deveratives are fire based.

But, blaze isn't natural, like Wood, so yeah, I can see what people are saying.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Seems reasonable.

Bit I always thought that Fire+Lightning COULD make Explosion(Most of them create BANG explosions and bursts and most explosions carry heat and such).

Either way, that does further my point on certain techniques create new ANs.

.....Narutopedia really needs a clean up.

In the narutoverse the explosion release is made up of earth and lightning.
Kishi adjusted and changed the elements to fit with his show.

 

[Biozim]

So, now moving onto the second topic(since thanks to everyone, that was awnsered for me),

Can advanced natures originate as off-shoots of a non-nature technique, or a basic nature?

 

[Biozim]

Okay,so

Earth Spear and Impervious Armour(steel release) seem to be similar, could Steel Release be dervived from Earth release?

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Shadow style and fire style combined equal blaze release

LIGHTENING AND FIRE COMBINED DUDE. Shadow style is a genjutsu user. and Dark style is its own kkg.