Plot holes and Turtles

[Your Creepy Stalker]

SPOILERS BELOW: READ AT PERIL, UNLESS YOU HAVE READ 629.

Ok, so rin was the jinchuriki of Isobu for a bit, and she was going to be used to attack konoha, and thats why kakashi killed her.
Thats the spoilers

When rin was killed, all the mist fodders tried to get rins body, presumably for Isobu, but failed and were massacred by obito.
This is presumably when the three tails went wild, as shown by the fact that deidara soloed the three tails, not it's jinchuriki.

So, yagura was jinchuriki before rin died, after which the three-tails went wild.
We know that when yagura was mizukage, he was controlled via genjutsu by someone, who kisame indirectly confirmed as obito.

But, if it wasnt obvious enough, the mist fodders obito massacred mentioned the bloody mist, wich proves the mist massacre was in the time of the yagura, not the third mizukage who at the moment, has no relevance.

Therefore, obito must have been controlling yagura, before he awakened the mangekyo, and that of course, is proposterous.

it is more likely, therefor, that Madara was controlling yagura from behind the scenes in order to gain obito and an ally.

That theory is all well and good, but kisame recognised obito as the man controlling yagura.
And that, my friends, is the plot hole.

 

[Saikyokami]

pointing this out.
There is no possible way for Yagura to have been the jinchuriki BEFORE rin.
If Sanbi was extracted from yagura he would've died..
but he was shown being manipulated my Obito later on in the manga...

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

pointing this out.
There is no possible way for Yagura to have been the jinchuriki BEFORE rin.
If Sanbi was extracted from yagura he would've died..
but he was shown being manipulated my Obito later on in the manga...

The mist fodders obito massacred were trying to get rins body to get the three tails back, but they failed. that is why i think that is when the three tails went wild.

 

[sepfiroth]

yagura becoming the jinchuriki of 3tails may be the latter case
obito massacres all miju nin than he retrieves her body than he steels the 3 tails and controls both 3tails and yagura
how does that sounds

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Nah! obito was a grown man when he controlled yagura not a kid with long hair! :I it happen latter, yagura was the last jin for it

 

[Punk Hazard]

All that means is that Isobu was captured later, sealed in Yagura later. Obito then killed him to manipulate his body, and Isobu was free again.

 

[BISHOPALONE]

Can people please think well before screaming 'PLOTHOLE'

 

[reizon]

i definately think you are right alot of plotholes.

 

[Anorien16]

Wasnt the Sanbi Arc an filler?

Also there is no way Yagura was both the Fourth MizuKage and the Jink before Rin died as the events would never match up..... but it may be so that before Rin died the Yagura rose as Mizukage and began his reign of terror and after Rin died (It was confirmed by raikage that if Jinks dies, the Biju temporarily disappears) the Sanbi disappeared but they later managed to regain Sanbi and the Kage for some reason became the Jink...... and its only after these events that TObito rose to control yagura to keep the Sanbi under their thumb.

The mist fodders obito massacred were trying to get rins body to get the three tails back, but they failed. that is why i think that is when the three tails went wild.

Mist fodders were chasing Kakashi and Rin into konoha . . . . . Read before u talk.

 

[Gatsuuga]

The mist fodders obito massacred were trying to get rins body to get the three tails back, but they failed. that is why i think that is when the three tails went wild.

No if the jinchuriki dies then the tailed beast dies as well and it takes some time for it to reappear. We can tell from the age of Obito that Yagura was the next Sanbi jinchuriki after rin. We don't know how Yagura died and it was not fully confirmed whether he was a perfect host as danzo specifically stated yagura 'may' have been a perfect jinchuriki. The rain village is known to be very secretive so it can go either way, but I am inclined to think that he wasn't - which would explain why he was open to genjutsu.

Also the 3-tails arc was a filler arc but in the manga the 3-tails was still seen to be independent of a host. This would suggest that Yagura died and the Sanbi was again 'reborn' later on and subsequently captured.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

"When rin was killed, all the mist fodders tried to get rins body, presumably for Isobu but failed and were massacred by obito."

Wrong obito noted that,that is what they wanted them to think they never planned to take rin.


"This is presumably when the three tails went wild, as shown by the fact that deidara soloed the three tails, not it's jinchuriki."

That was the anime not cannon


"So, yagura was jinchuriki before rin died, after which the three-tails went wild."

No yagura was the jinchuurki and obito didn't take control of her until later so that right proves she wasn't the jincjuurki until after these events has occurred.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Wasnt the Sanbi Arc an filler?

Also there is no way Yagura was both the Fourth MizuKage and the Jink before Rin died as the events would never match up..... but it may be so that before Rin died the Yagura rose as Mizukage and began his reign of terror and after Rin died (It was confirmed by raikage that if Jinks dies, the Biju temporarily disappears) the Sanbi disappeared but they later managed to regain Sanbi and the Kage for some reason became the Jink...... and its only after these events that TObito rose to control yagura to keep the Sanbi under their thumb.



Mist fodders were chasing Kakashi and Rin into konoha . . . . . Read before u talk.

The three tails arc was filler, but in the manga, deidara is shown defeating the three tails at the lake

 

[NarutoB]

I'm guessing that adult Obito with long hair looked exactly like Madara.

 

[phylos]

I thought about the continuity mistake as well and didn't really consider Yagura being the Jinchuriki after Rin... I guess it's a possibility.
After Rin died the mission to chase her to the Leaf failed so it only makes sense that those Mist shinobi would try to recover Isobu because she was dead already.

And isn't anime canon as long as it doesn't contradict the manga? Just because it was filler should it be dismissed so easily, methinks.