[Spoilers] Kakashi > Obito confirmed

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He had opportunities, doesn't mean that he can just beat him but if kakashi has enough chakra now he might beat him.
kakashi's kuaram chakra has disappeared but he has his original chakra, i think it is enough
 

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Guys stop making excuses. I brought up mangafacts. Kakashi warped and speedblitzed Obito during this chapter, which already prove he is much better than Obito as a ninja without his kamui. Kakashi like Obito said wasn't even fighting with the intent to kill U_U
 

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:yayy: kakashi is stronger than obito :happy:
 

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kakashi's kuaram chakra has disappeared but he has his original chakra, i think it is enough

kakashi without kamui can beat a rinnegan obito who has Mokuton, izanagi and Many other powerful jutsu's?

ROFL.

The base is getting ret.arded everyday.
 

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Guys stop making excuses. I brought up mangafacts. Kakashi warped and speedblitzed Obito during this chapter, which already prove he is much better than Obito as a ninja without his kamui. Kakashi like Obito said wasn't even fighting with the intent to kill U_U

then explain why Obito did not react to kakashi's chidori?

He was off balanced but he did not move to dodge it. It was obvious he knew kakashi was not gonna hit him.

Also, Did you see that hole kakashi made in obito's chest?

The dude cannot die from a simple riakari.

Lol
 
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i seriously lost hope for the base. Facepalm.

first itachi > obito.

Now kakashi without kamui and Kurama chakra cloak > Rinnegan obito.

...
 

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then explain why Obito did not react to kakashi's chidori?
I don't know. We'll probably understand why next chapter, but it has nothing to do with my point U_U
i seriously lost hope for the base. Facepalm.

first itachi > obito.

Now kakashi without kamui and Kurama chakra cloak > Rinnegan obito.

...
Never said Kakashi was stronger than Rinnengan Obito. Gedo Mazo alone would deal with Kakashi. My point is that Kakashi has shown to be a better fighter than Obito in a 1vs1 without his kamui
 

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kakashi without kamui can beat a rinnegan obito who has Mokuton, izanagi and Many other powerful jutsu's?

ROFL.

The base is getting ret.arded everyday.

obito has never used rinngan's jutsu except for whenhe said he will use ninjindo on yamato
and kakashi can beat obito's mouktun,fire,ninjindo
but if obito can use all rinngan's jutus as nagato ,then obito(without kamui)>>>kakashi(without kamui)
 

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I don't know. We'll probably understand why next chapter, but it has nothing to do with my point U_U

answer me this,

Kakashi without Kamui and no Kurama cloak can beat Obito with the rinnegan and mokuton?

Kakashi cant use kamui

Chidori is ineffective.

What else is he gonna use?

Water style- water spash?

Lol
 

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I really don't see what there is to argue about. Obito says it plain as day. Kakashi has already had a few chances to kill Obito if he wanted to.

Plus it's clear that these two have been fighting in the other dimension for a little while. We came in during the middle of the fight. Aside from that one time Kakashi struck him in the other dimension when Naruto was helping him, we haven't seen Kakashi have any other chance at killing him until now. Meaning that the "few" chances to kill him probably happened while they were fighting 1v1 in the other dimension. We just haven't seen it because as I said, chapter 629 doesn't start at the beginning of the fight, it's somewhere in the middle.

I'm not really surprised that Kakashi is raping Obito right now. It's not like he can go transparent in the other dimension since his body parts would most likely end up back in the real world where he wouldn't be able to protect it from the mayhem caused by the juubi, plus kakashi can use kamui too so running away with that is pointless. And Obito can't control the juubi since he's not connected to it anymore and Madara has it. We've only seen Obito use 6paths technique so he probably isn't that proficient with using Rinnegan powers yet. So what else would he really have to use?
 

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Guys stop making excuses. I brought up mangafacts. Kakashi warped and speedblitzed Obito during this chapter, which already prove he is much better than Obito as a ninja without his kamui. Kakashi like Obito said wasn't even fighting with the intent to kill U_U

You brought up a scan of a 4v1 match in which Kakashi was able to defeat Obito thanks to Naruto, You also have Kakashi speed blitzing him only to have his Raikiri to jack the dude just stood there SMH
 

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obito has never used rinngan's jutsu except for whenhe said he will use ninjindo on yamato
and kakashi can beat obito's mouktun,fire,ninjindo

he can use them. it has been proven when kakashi himself stated that he was using the 6 paths techs which consumes a lot of chakra and He did not want to use the Rinnegan techs due to Them knowing the counters for it.


here's further proof,

 

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Kakashi, Naruto, Bee and Guy vs obito. Ofcourse you will have a chance to kill the guy. It's a 4vs1. rofl

Kakashi speed blitzing Obito with chidori is useless as It doesn't work on obito[ proven with the giant hole in his heart]

Obito is laughing and toying with Kakashi and somehow you get the idea that kakashi can beat obito?


rofl.
 

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answer me this,

Kakashi without Kamui and no Kurama cloak can beat Obito with the rinnegan and mokuton?

Kakashi cant use kamui

Chidori is ineffective.

What else is he gonna use?

Water style- water spash?

Lol
Mokuton is not his style to begin with. He uses Kamui most of the time to fight. It's his main weapon, but problem is that Kakashi can use kamui as well. We've already seen that Kakashi was perfectly able to dodge his mokuton techniques when they were even in a larger scale(through the Juubi) anyway. I already said that Kakashi can't beat Rinnengan Obito most likely because of his summons(Gedo Mazo or Juubi), but in a 1vs1, we've seen that Kakashi is a better ninja. It's the only thing i'm trying to talk about here. Concerning the reason why he didn't die from the Raikiri, i don't know. We'll probably see next chapter
 

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Guys stop making excuses. I brought up mangafacts. Kakashi warped and speedblitzed Obito during this chapter, which already prove he is much better than Obito as a ninja without his kamui. Kakashi like Obito said wasn't even fighting with the intent to kill U_U

You just pissed off everyone who had their heart set on obito defeating kakashi. Obito hasnt shown if he can use any of the paths on his own yet. He cant use demonic statue anymore. And there kamui pretty much cancel it out leaving the fight to pure fighting skill which kakashi has. All obito skill revolves around his broken hax kamui. It easy to be OP when you cant be touched.
 

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Mokuton is not his style to begin with. He uses Kamui most of the time to fight. It's his main weapon, but problem is that Kakashi can use kamui as well. We've already seen that Kakashi was perfectly able to dodge his mokuton techniques when they were even in a larger scale(through the Juubi) anyway. I already said that Kakashi can't beat Rinnengan Obito most likely because of his summons(Gedo Mazo or Juubi), but in a 1vs1, we've seen that Kakashi is a better ninja. It's the only thing i'm trying to talk about here. Concerning the reason why he didn't die from the Raikiri, i don't know. We'll probably see next chapter
kakashi is the better ninja sure. But don't forget obito is a lot smarter now and Has great strategies in fights.

Even if kamui is his main weapon, He can still use Mokuton and the rinnegan. Nothing is stopping him from using them.

And do you honestly think kakashi will beat obito in that dimension? Lol

Obito parelells Naruto and That is enough proof the he will be the final villian as He needs to fight with Naruto and get talk no jutus'd by naruto himself.

I believe that Obito will either kill or severly injure kakashi, then leave the kamui world, Meet up with minato and then After the hokages beat madara, Obito will somehow become the 10 tails jin and Rival Naruto in the last fight.

Parallels matter a lot to kishi.

what do you think?
 

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I really don't see what there is to argue about. Obito says it plain as day. Kakashi has already had a few chances to kill Obito if he wanted to.

Plus it's clear that these two have been fighting in the other dimension for a little while. We came in during the middle of the fight. Aside from that one time Kakashi struck him in the other dimension when Naruto was helping him, we haven't seen Kakashi have any other chance at killing him until now. Meaning that the "few" chances to kill him probably happened while they were fighting 1v1 in the other dimension. We just haven't seen it because as I said, chapter 629 doesn't start at the beginning of the fight, it's somewhere in the middle.

I'm not really surprised that Kakashi is raping Obito right now. It's not like he can go transparent in the other dimension since his body parts would most likely end up back in the real world where he wouldn't be able to protect it from the mayhem caused by the juubi, plus kakashi can use kamui too so running away with that is pointless. And Obito can't control the juubi since he's not connected to it anymore and Madara has it. We've only seen Obito use 6paths technique so he probably isn't that proficient with using Rinnegan powers yet. So what else would he really have to use?

You don't see much to argue about? Clearly you can't SEE at all... lol.

In the new chapter, Obito and Kakashi CLEARLY just entered the other dimension, thus starting their 1 vs. 1 fight.

Every "chance" Kakashi had to kill Obito was because Kakashi had like 20 other people helping him... not 1 vs. 1.

Obito has a true Uchiha body and can use Kamui as much as he wants, and who knows how many other techniques.

Kakashi has limited chakra, limited use of Kamui, and pretty much Raikiri.

This is coming from a huge Kakashi fan btw: Obito > Kakashi, it's not hard to see.
 

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kakashi is the better ninja sure. But don't forget obito is a lot smarter now and Has great strategies in fights.

Even if kamui is his main weapon, He can still use Mokuton and the rinnegan. Nothing is stopping him from using them.

And do you honestly think kakashi will beat obito in that dimension? Lol

Obito parelells Naruto and That is enough proof the he will be the final villian as He needs to fight with Naruto and get talk no jutus'd by naruto himself.

I believe that Obito will either kill or severly injure kakashi, then leave the kamui world, Meet up with minato and then After the hokages beat madara, Obito will somehow become the 10 tails jin and Rival Naruto in the last fight.

Parallels matter a lot to kishi.

what do you think?
Like you know, i created the thread concerning the parallels with Naruto. I prefer Obito to be the final villain more than Madara, but tbh after this chapter, i'm not even that sure anymore. The only hope i have right now is that Obito is trying to break Kakashi's spirit and take the opportunity to kill him. Reason why he is trying to explain him all that. Because if it's not the case, i seriously doubt in his chances to be the final villain, probably he would even die or get tnj'd like some other people say
 

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Like you know, i created the thread concerning the parallels with Naruto. I prefer Obito to be the final villain more than Madara, but tbh after this chapter, i'm not even that sure anymore. The only hope i have right now is that Obito is trying to break Kakashi's spirit and take the opportunity to kill him. Reason why he is trying to explain him all that. Because if it's not the case, i seriously doubt in his chances to be the final villain, probably he would even die or get tnj'd like some other people say

i believe it's too soon for obito to die or get talk no jutsu'd. I mean the guy didn't even meet Minato. I'm sure kishi wants a reunion with obito somehow.

This chapter proved that obito cannot be tnj'd easily and like you said, Obito is trying to break kakashi's spirit by talk instead of fighting so he can mentally handicap kakashi so he can kill him and return to the battlefield.

The only way i see kakashi surviving is if obito spares him or leaves him severely injured.

madara cannot face the hokage's, taka and SA by himself, He needs obito to help.

And with naruto paralleling obito, it's inevitable that they face off for the last time.

I don't think obito was even trying in the fight we just saw, He looked to be trying to break kakashi mentally than physically.

Talking about Rin and how Kakashi is trash is the way to get to kakashi mentally.
 

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go boggie go

i see thats a home run now
god i missed your threads =D

and you have all my support :heh:
 
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