[Theory] Analysis of Susan'o & Sharingan [Truth Explained]

[FearxDeath]

As usual with all of my threads I highly encourage everyone to read as much as they can before you start posting. If your too tired to do that then the least you can do is read my conclusion so you atleast get the jist of what I am saying. As always enjoy the read.

Fair Warning: This is nothing conclusive, I will say it again this is nothing conclusive. But what I will say is that there are grounds to believe that this could infact be the case and that to my knowledge this is the only known explanation to the science behind the Sharingan. With that said use this as food for though perhaps even to build your own theory around it.

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Hello guys, there has been a question going threw my mind. What is the correlation between Susano'o and the Sharingan MS abilities, heck on top of that how does the Sharingan use Genjutsu just by looking at someone? If these are questions you may be thinking about as well then I implore you to read this little thread about the truth behind the Sharingans Abilities. This one isnt too long but isnt too short and is very thought out, so i recommend that before you read you grab a drink, some chips, maybe even a sandwich, and enjoy the ride.

What are the abilities of the Sharingan?​

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Well first and foremost let us list out the known abilities of the Sharingan:

1. Ability to use ocular genjutsu and read movements
2. Abilitiy to use 2 MS Abilities
3. Ability to summon Susano'o
4. Ability to use both Izangi and Izanami

Now lets move on

What is the Sharingan?​

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The Sharingan is Chakra. Plain and simple, it is just special chakra, one which king Derp Obito, all hail the king, has speculated to be linked to the Juubi for a very long time.

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Yes, to put it simply it is chakra. But to put it not so simply it is a special kind of chakra. It is a chakra that has the ability to take on physicality. Much like the kyubi's tailed beast cloak seen when Naruto battled with Sasuke at the valley of the end[

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]. It is Chakra that has the ability to become physical, and with that physicality comes a world of possibilities.

This explains why Sharingans can be similar and yet so different. At the core all chakra is alike but onces you dig deeper into the chakra linked to the sharingan you find that everyone's chakras are not the same but infact are very different from each other.

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This difference is reflected by each individual sharingans MS ability, and also explains the actual logic behind transplanting eyes between Uchiha to Uchiha and why the transplant fails if the two uchiha are close enough by blood. It is because the chakra in one eye has to be nearly identical to the chakra in the brain.

Physical Chakra Extension​

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First off we know that the way that Genjutsu works is that you must get your chakra to come into contact with your opponent in some way, this can be through touch, smell or even hearing. But the Sharingan is the eye that can do this by mere eye contact... but how?

I think Susano'o is behind this. Not really Susano'o per-say but a lesser form of Susano'o. What happens in this instance is the Sharingan users gets his chakra to take on physicality, much like the Susano'o, and then stretches it over a long distance in a short period of time. The lesser Susano'o would be around the size of a very very thin string, allowing it to be used over great distances, i like to call this physical chakra extension as in the ability to make your chakra physical and then extend it over long distances..

A different example of this would be that rather than extending the chakra like a long string it could rather shoot out a chakra ball of some sort in a straight line over a long distance, much like yatagama. Which ever seems more plausible to you!

With this the Sharingans users chakra literally comes into contact with the enemy ninja which is how they implant there chakra into them. But more importantly this isnt filtered by the other senses but rather goes right through the eye and directly implants the chakra into the brain. Which is why the genjutsu is so strong and also why direct eye contact is required.

Susano'o Genjutsu​

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This also leads into a different form of genjutsu, and that is a Susano'o Genjutsu. Since Susano'o is also chakra then it only makes sense that if it comes into contact with an enemy ninja then you could place then under a genjutsu. Itachi himself shows this to be possible.

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Now let me give a disclaimer right now, this isnt common occurance. This would be incredibly hard to do. It would not only take alot of skill to master but would also require the user be skilled at genjutsu. This is why Itachi was able to master this technique. But keep in mind that I say technique. That is because I believe all Susano abilities to be techniques, the Susano is NOT like the MS, All Uchiha can use them and mold them to become whatever they wish. We see Sasuke wielding Amaterasu Yatagama in his Susano form but that isnt because that is how his Susano is, but rather because that is how he has chosen to mold his Susano. Now this Susano molding issue gets alot more complicated so much so that it could deserve its own thread so I wont go too deep into this idea, you need only understand the jist of it to get what I am trying to say.

Conclusion​

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So as you can see the Sharingan acts more as a focusing glass to manipulate the chakra inside of the brain and it is the manipulation of this chakra that leads into the abilities the Sharingan user can use.

The ability to read and copy movements is merely a side effect of the increased chakra flow through the eye. Which makes alot of sense, if the increase of power of the Sharingan is linked to the chakra in the brain, from 1 tomie to eternal, then as the more chakra is poured into the eye then it would reflect an increase in seeing ability as the sharingan increases is power.

I hope you enjoy the thread, i gave it my all.

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[i OblivioN i]

I Agree Itachi and his Susanoo Stomps

 

[rollin]

when sasuke first used his susano'o his chakra resembled genjutsu

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atsui was talking about this genjutsu

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[Mattbart]

Great read. I enjoy these well thought out threads

 

[zedek]

vey nice makes a alot of sence nice job

 

[FearxDeath]

Thanks alot guys, im glad you liked it

 

[Xenoth]

when sasuke first used his susano'o his chakra resembled genjutsu

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atsui was talking about this genjutsu

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Im pretty sure that was his poor version of tsukiyomi

 

[BONTUL]

What is there to explain? :devil:

 

[The ProphecY]

That was one hell of a ride & you surely make a lot of sense..

However, I believed it was Itachi's "Ethereal Weapon" (Totsuka Blade) that put it's target to genjutsu & not his Susano'o. No one from any Susano'o users have this ability other than him. Meaning, there's no such thing as Susano'o Genjutsu, I really don't know how you came up with it.

Also, can you elaborate more on your Physical Chakra Extension theory.

nice thread though, well thought & ***** for the effort..

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

Great theory , Keep it up

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

nice theory

but we will never know if its true or not coz kishi wont tell us

 

[NagazuDead]

Great Analysis but it was lol a little big boring to read.. Because it was so much . But a good thread! A Powerful or good music would be perfect for the thread

 

[FearxDeath]

That was one hell of a ride & you surely make a lot of sense..

However, I believed it was Itachi's "Ethereal Weapon" (Totsuka Blade) that put it's target to genjutsu & not his Susano'o. No one from any Susano'o users have this ability other than him. Meaning, there's no such thing as Susano'o Genjutsu, I really don't know how you came up with it.

Also, can you elaborate more on your Physical Chakra Extension theory.

nice thread though, well thought & ***** for the effort..

I think you missed the point I was making about the susano & genjutsu.

I was trying to say that since the way genjutsu works is by bringing your chakra in contact with someone else and since the susano is pure chakra then it touching someone could place someone into a genjutsu. You say that you believe it is itachi's ethereal weapon... But that term is not mutually exclusive. His Totsuka blade is a part of his susano and this is proven by the fact that he can not use it without summoning his susano. Being as skilled at genjutsu as he is he mastered using genjutsu through his susano, which falls into my thoery. You say that no other susano has this ability, ofcourse it doesnt, there have only been 3 susano's seen throughout the entire show and none of the users are as skilled at genjutsu as Itachi was. But is it a mystery as to why the person most skilled in genjutsu would also have a susano with that capability?

Now to stick with your ethereal weapon idea you have to understand that all ethereal weapons must still make logical sense. Sasukes EW is his amaterasi yatagama's which is another form of amaterasu, and being so it does not break the rules that we have seen applied to Amaterasu so far, being that it burns everything etc... The same goes for Itachis EW, its genjutsu cast does not break the rule of genjutsu meaning that his chakra must come into contact with the opponent in order to place hem into the genjutsu. This would mean that the totsuka blade is an extension of Itachis chakra. I believe that with proper training Sasuke could learn this technique just as with proper training Itachi could have learned sasukes..

I can really elaborate on the extended physical chakra because I pretty much said everything there was to say about it. If you have any questions i could answer them but I can really elaborate on something like that.

 

[sulanis]

I think everyone should read the whole thread before making a post on any thread.

My thoughts though: makes sense, i could see Susanoo just being another form of advanced genjutsu.

on a plus note: itachi sealing Nagato was awesome yet crappy at the same time Imagine if Nagato, and Itachi teamed up!

 

[FearxDeath]

I think everyone should read the whole thread before making a post on any thread.

My thoughts though: makes sense, i could see Susanoo just being another form of advanced genjutsu.

on a plus note: itachi sealing Nagato was awesome yet crappy at the same time Imagine if Nagato, and Itachi teamed up!

Wise words from a wise man

 

[The ProphecY]

I think you missed the point I was making about the susano & genjutsu.

I was trying to say that since the way genjutsu works is by bringing your chakra in contact with someone else and since the susano is pure chakra then it touching someone could place someone into a genjutsu. You say that you believe it is itachi's ethereal weapon... But that term is not mutually exclusive. His Totsuka blade is a part of his susano and this is proven by the fact that he can not use it without summoning his susano. Being as skilled at genjutsu as he is he mastered using genjutsu through his susano, which falls into my thoery. You say that no other susano has this ability, ofcourse it doesnt, there have only been 3 susano's seen throughout the entire show and none of the users are as skilled at genjutsu as Itachi was. But is it a mystery as to why the person most skilled in genjutsu would also have a susano with that capability?

Now to stick with your ethereal weapon idea you have to understand that all ethereal weapons must still make logical sense. Sasukes EW is his amaterasi yatagama's which is another form of amaterasu, and being so it does not break the rules that we have seen applied to Amaterasu so far, being that it burns everything etc... The same goes for Itachis EW, its genjutsu cast does not break the rule of genjutsu meaning that his chakra must come into contact with the opponent in order to place hem into the genjutsu. This would mean that the totsuka blade is an extension of Itachis chakra. I believe that with proper training Sasuke could learn this technique just as with proper training Itachi could have learned sasukes..

I can really elaborate on the extended physical chakra because I pretty much said everything there was to say about it. If you have any questions i could answer them but I can really elaborate on something like that.

At the boloded part, Itachi's EW isn't part of his Susanoo powers. He just incorporated it to his Susanoo. Zetsu stated that Orochimaru was searching for that weapon. So it's really isn't doubtful that any shinobi who possessed that weapon can use it's power. It's not exclusive to Itachi, nor I don't believe that Itachi needs to extend his chakra to make contact with the target to place him into eternal genjutsu. That wasn't his power but the Totsuka's capability, there's nothing to argue about it to be honest. Or I misunderstood what you were trying to say?

Never mind what I said about the Physical Chakra Extension, I finally get what you were trying to express hmm.

OT: Like I said, I like your thread & I really can say your way of thinking is above ordinary. Peace!

 

[FearxDeath]

At the boloded part, Itachi's EW isn't part of his Susanoo powers. He just incorporated it to his Susanoo. Zetsu stated that Orochimaru was searching for that weapon. So it's really isn't doubtful that any shinobi who possessed that weapon can use it's power. It's not exclusive to Itachi, nor I don't believe that Itachi needs to extend his chakra to make contact with the target to place him into eternal genjutsu. That wasn't his power but the Totsuka's capability, there's nothing to argue about it to be honest. Or I misunderstood what you were trying to say?

Never mind what I said about the Physical Chakra Extension, I finally get what you were trying to express hmm.

OT: Like I said, I like your thread & I really can say your way of thinking is above ordinary. Peace!

Glad you liked my thread

For your idea to work you need to answer a few questions

• How did Itachi get the Blade
• How did he incorparate such a weapon into his susano
• Why have we never seen him use it without the Susano especially in occasions where Susano isnt neccesary, namely sealing Nagato.
• You make this inference based solely on the fact that Orochimaru said that he was looking for the Totsuka blade for a long time, isnt it possible that he heard about it after someone saw Itachi use it in a battle and thus thought it was a weapon that could be aquired, much like how he chases after the Sharingan.
• Lastly for me to believe your statement I have to introduce a radical concept to the Narutoverse which is that Uchiha can implement random weapons into there Susano for use. This is something that has no been proven, shown or even hinted at. And yet you have no problem believing it even though you have no real logical reason for doing so. Other than the vague statement made by orochimaru.

 

[The ProphecY]

Glad you liked my thread

For your idea to work you need to answer a few questions

• How did Itachi get the Blade
• How did he incorparate such a weapon into his susano
• Why have we never seen him use it without the Susano especially in occasions where Susano isnt neccesary, namely sealing Nagato.
• You make this inference based solely on the fact that Orochimaru said that he was looking for the Totsuka blade for a long time, isnt it possible that he heard about it after someone saw Itachi use it in a battle and thus thought it was a weapon that could be aquired, much like how he chases after the Sharingan.
• Lastly for me to believe your statement I have to introduce a radical concept to the Narutoverse which is that Uchiha can implement random weapons into there Susano for use. This is something that has no been proven, shown or even hinted at. And yet you have no problem believing it even though you have no real logical reason for doing so. Other than the vague statement made by orochimaru.

I'll reply to you late, duty calls!!

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Love this, great job as always Fear! These threads you make are pretty in depth and interesting to read. You put so much work into your threads, even if it's a debunk (which you destroyed me with in a way ) and I admire you for that!

 

[FearxDeath]

Love this, great job as always Fear! These threads you make are pretty in depth and interesting to read. You put so much work into your threads, even if it's a debunk (which you destroyed me with in a way ) and I admire you for that!

Thanks for the vote of confidence glad you like my threads, I guess ill stick around and make more