Itachi is physically faster than minato

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This is how fast Mianto's base speed is.
 
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So true. Kunais dont fly that fast. Here is the question then. Why does he carry kunais if he is so fast on his feet?
At any rate he didnt throw any kunai when he appeared at gokage faces did he? There was no indication also but he sure didnt run there. Its obvious FTG. Even kishi cant expect such levels of retarded to draw kunai everytime minato uses FTG.

He carried them to spread his FTG marking across the entire battlefield, so he can basically fly around the battle field instantly.
As for him standing ontop of the hokages faces, What makes you think he didn't jump up there?.

Or is that to impossible in a manga where a teenager can jump this high
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Overlooked point during Minato vs Raikage battle of speed:

Raikage used his maximal Shunshin speed to try to blitz and defeat Minato, but look. The guy closed the distance to the point he was already at this position:

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But look at this gif:

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Like you can see, in that brief moment, Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a three and come back on the kunai he threw an instant ago before A even went thru the kunai completely

We talk about someone who is probably as fast as lightning itself who was already near Minato's face, but Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a tree and come back on the kunai he just threw before the guy even had time to traverse de kunai completely. Do you realise how insane that feat was?

For example, it's as if someone tries to shoot a bullet at you, but when it's already reaching your face, you have time to throw a pencil above the bullet, teleport somewhere else and come back to the pencil you just threw before the bullet even traversed the pencil, wow

Minato's feat is even more impressive than Naruto's because where Naruto only dodged the attack, Minato even had time to prepare the counter-attack.

Misconception: Minato barely reacted to Raikage's speed

There are some people who misinterpretated this scene in the manga and believe that Minato barely reacted, but like i've proved with my thread, this way of thinking is far from the truth and it's even in fact the contrary. It's the Raikage the one who couldn't handle Minato's speed(Raikage was still on Minato's first position when Minato did 3actions: throw a kunai, teleport away and come back on Raikage).

At that particular moment, Minato's goal wasn't to dodge the attack only, but to dodge it after preparing his counter-attack, reason why he threw a kunai above him. If he had time to throw a kunai above him AND teleport away(so 2 actions) when Raikage was inches away from him, that already shows he could have dodge it long before if he really wanted, but like i've said, it wasn't his goal at all

If Minato was able to do all that in that mere fraction of seconds, it's enough for me to realise that Minato's reaction speed is above that of V2 Raikage
 

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Overlooked point during Minato vs Raikage battle of speed:

Raikage used his maximal Shunshin speed to try to blitz and defeat Minato, but look. The guy closed the distance to the point he was already at this position:

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But look at this gif:

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Like you can see, in that brief moment, Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a three and come back on the kunai he threw an instant ago before A even went thru the kunai completely

We talk about someone who is probably as fast as lightning itself who was already near Minato's face, but Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a tree and come back on the kunai he just threw before the guy even had time to traverse de kunai completely. Do you realise how insane that feat was?

For example, it's as if someone tries to shoot a bullet at you, but when it's already reaching your face, you have time to throw a pencil above the bullet, teleport somewhere else and come back to the pencil you just threw before the bullet even traversed the pencil, wow

Minato's feat is even more impressive than Naruto's because where Naruto only dodged the attack, Minato even had time to prepare the counter-attack.

Misconception: Minato barely reacted to Raikage's speed

There are some people who misinterpretated this scene in the manga and believe that Minato barely reacted, but like i've proved with my thread, this way of thinking is far from the truth and it's even in fact the contrary. It's the Raikage the one who couldn't handle Minato's speed(Raikage was still on Minato's first position when Minato did 3actions: throw a kunai, teleport away and come back on Raikage).

At that particular moment, Minato's goal wasn't to dodge the attack only, but to dodge it after preparing his counter-attack, reason why he threw a kunai above him. If he had time to throw a kunai above him AND teleport away(so 2 actions) when Raikage was inches away from him, that already shows he could have dodge it long before if he really wanted, but like i've said, it wasn't his goal at all

If Minato was able to do all that in that mere fraction of seconds, it's enough for me to realise that Minato's reaction speed is above that of V2 Raikage

hmm makes sense
i will let you rejoice for now.....
however without ftg i still believe itachi would out perform him in any for of combat
 

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hmm makes sense
i will let you rejoice for now.....
however without ftg i still believe itachi would out perform him in any for of combat
Np, since i also believe that without Sharingan, Minato would out perform Itachi in any form of combat :)
 

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He carried them to spread his FTG marking across the entire battlefield, so he can basically fly around the battle field instantly.
As for him standing ontop of the hokages faces, What makes you think he didn't jump up there?.

Or is that to impossible in a manga where a teenager can jump this high
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Yet in a fight vs obito he relied in his kunai not a base speed, which u claim to be faster then thrown kunai.
Teenager jump this high? This high is what exactly? Despite the picture showing otherwise it was stated that deidara was flying just above the reach of sasuke chidori spear which was 5 meters in base form. Sasuke being able to jump few meters high isnt same feat as jumping over kurama now is it?
 

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This is how fast Mianto's base speed is.
Actually, he used Shunshin only when he saved Naruto from Tobi. In other cases, he used FTG.

But still... I think that Minatos Shunshin is faster than Itachis, although not fast enough for Itachi to not being able to react to it with his Sharingan if they fought against each other.
 

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Here are minato's physical speed feats:
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There was no ftg involved in that distance being covered.

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Try throwing a tennis ball while running, and try keeping up with that ball or even maintaining a fixed proximity from it as it travels through the air to figure out just how fast that speed right there was. And this is physical speed again.

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Its been seen a lot, but think about this. We just saw the kunai go through Tobi's head in the last panel. Try to imagine just how quickly minato's arm must have moved here. He teleported himself mid air to his kunai, then while still in mid air behind the line of the kunai's flight path at tobi's head height, he swung his rasengan from its position near that height, around in a circle to aim for tobi's back. Then he landed the rasengan, managed to rotate his hand during the hit to place a ftg seal on his back, all the while still in mid air.

If that is'nt incredible physical speed i don't know what is.
 

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Overlooked point during Minato vs Raikage battle of speed:
Raikage used his maximal Shunshin speed to try to blitz and defeat Minato, but look. The guy closed the distance to the point he was already at this position:
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But look at this gif:
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Like you can see, in that brief moment, Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a three and come back on the kunai he threw an instant ago before A even went thru the kunai completely
We talk about someone who is probably as fast as lightning itself who was already near Minato's face, but Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a tree and come back on the kunai he just threw before the guy even had time to traverse de kunai completely. Do you realise how insane that feat was?
For example, it's as if someone tries to shoot a bullet at you, but when it's already reaching your face, you have time to throw a pencil above the bullet, teleport somewhere else and come back to the pencil you just threw before the bullet even traversed the pencil, wow
Minato's feat is even more impressive than Naruto's because where Naruto only dodged the attack, Minato even had time to prepare the counter-attack.
Misconception: Minato barely reacted to Raikage's speed
There are some people who misinterpretated this scene in the manga and believe that Minato barely reacted, but like i've proved with my thread, this way of thinking is far from the truth and it's even in fact the contrary. It's the Raikage the one who couldn't handle Minato's speed(Raikage was still on Minato's first position when Minato did 3actions: throw a kunai, teleport away and come back on Raikage).
At that particular moment, Minato's goal wasn't to dodge the attack only, but to dodge it after preparing his counter-attack, reason why he threw a kunai above him. If he had time to throw a kunai above him AND teleport away(so 2 actions) when Raikage was inches away from him, that already shows he could have dodge it long before if he really wanted, but like i've said, it wasn't his goal at all
If Minato was able to do all that in that mere fraction of seconds, it's enough for me to realise that Minato's reaction speed is above that of V2 Raikage
Sorry bogard but anime isnt canon.
 

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At base level, a lot of characters would align with his speed. Minato is famous for being 'yellow flash'; a moniker he received for FTG, not his base speed. At base level, Itachi should be slightly faster as he was fighting with Bee and KCM Naruto and did so quite effortlessly.

Minato on the other hand has not displayed any such feats in regards to close quarters combat with this kind of maneuvering. I agree with the thread.

I'll just leave this page here...

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You do realize he did that on-purpose to force Minato into using his FTG? Otherwise, he could have simply stabbed Naruto without throwing him into the air. Also, Minato yellow flash moniker comes from his FTG technique, nothing else.
 
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Yet in a fight vs obito he relied in his kunai not a base speed, which u claim to be faster then thrown kunai.
Teenager jump this high? This high is what exactly? Despite the picture showing otherwise it was stated that deidara was flying just above the reach of sasuke chidori spear which was 5 meters in base form. Sasuke being able to jump few meters high isnt same feat as jumping over kurama now is it?

He used it as a diversion, He threw it knowing he would phase through it, Then instantly appear behind him and attack when he solidifies to attempt to warp minato.
They call it "tactics". Simply because minato is faster than he can throw a kunai, doesn't mean him using his speed over a kunai is the best option.
 

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You do realize he did that on-purpose to force Minato into using his FTG? Also, Minato yellow flash moniker comes from his FTG technique, nothing else.

That pic you responded to... Minato used FTG when he teleported with Naruto out of that room. But earlier, when he grabbed Naruto, that was Shunshin.
 

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Here are minato's physical speed feats:
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There was no ftg involved in that distance being covered.

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Try throwing a tennis ball while running, and try keeping up with that ball or even maintaining a fixed proximity from it as it travels through the air to figure out just how fast that speed right there was. And this is physical speed again.

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Its been seen a lot, but think about this. We just saw the kunai go through Tobi's head in the last panel. Try to imagine just how quickly minato's arm must have moved here. He teleported himself mid air to his kunai, then while still in mid air behind the line of the kunai's flight path at tobi's head height, he swung his rasengan from its position near that height, around in a circle to aim for tobi's back. Then he landed the rasengan, managed to rotate his hand during the hit to place a ftg seal on his back, all the while still in mid air.

If that is'nt incredible physical speed i don't know what is.
1. Shunshin =/= base speed.
2. He didnt throw his kunai at max speed, otherwise he wouldnt be able to counter attack at right time.
3. Minato teleported at the right position just b4 impact and caught his already slow kunai.
 

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He used it as a diversion, He threw it knowing he would phase through it, Then instantly appear behind him and attack when he solidifies to attempt to warp minato.
They call it "tactics". Simply because minato is faster than he can throw a kunai, doesn't mean him using his speed over a kunai is the best option.
Well if his speed is so superior he doesnt need to resort to cheap tactics. Having superior speed would allow him to strike obito 1st when obito is solidified.
And yet u all overlooked the fact that 14y obito was more then a match for minato's base speed.
Except it did happen in the manga. I only linked the gif to show the trajectory of the kunai Minato threw at that moment
What happened in the manga is that minato left his kunai behind and teleported to another then back. Anime suggest that the kunai minato has slightly thrown upward travels at far superior speed then A, which is total BS.
 
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1. Shunshin =/= base speed.
2. He didnt throw his kunai at max speed, otherwise he wouldnt be able to counter attack at right time.
3. Minato teleported at the right position just b4 impact and caught his already slow kunai.

Bold's are completely baseless.

So minato can react to A's speed, But couldn't React/Counter attack to the speed of a Kunai?
Seems legit.
 

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Overlooked point during Minato vs Raikage battle of speed:

Raikage used his maximal Shunshin speed to try to blitz and defeat Minato, but look. The guy closed the distance to the point he was already at this position:

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But look at this gif:

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Like you can see, in that brief moment, Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a three and come back on the kunai he threw an instant ago before A even went thru the kunai completely

We talk about someone who is probably as fast as lightning itself who was already near Minato's face, but Minato had time to throw a kunai above him, teleport to a tree and come back on the kunai he just threw before the guy even had time to traverse de kunai completely. Do you realise how insane that feat was?

For example, it's as if someone tries to shoot a bullet at you, but when it's already reaching your face, you have time to throw a pencil above the bullet, teleport somewhere else and come back to the pencil you just threw before the bullet even traversed the pencil, wow

Minato's feat is even more impressive than Naruto's because where Naruto only dodged the attack, Minato even had time to prepare the counter-attack.

Misconception: Minato barely reacted to Raikage's speed

There are some people who misinterpretated this scene in the manga and believe that Minato barely reacted, but like i've proved with my thread, this way of thinking is far from the truth and it's even in fact the contrary. It's the Raikage the one who couldn't handle Minato's speed(Raikage was still on Minato's first position when Minato did 3actions: throw a kunai, teleport away and come back on Raikage).

At that particular moment, Minato's goal wasn't to dodge the attack only, but to dodge it after preparing his counter-attack, reason why he threw a kunai above him. If he had time to throw a kunai above him AND teleport away(so 2 actions) when Raikage was inches away from him, that already shows he could have dodge it long before if he really wanted, but like i've said, it wasn't his goal at all

If Minato was able to do all that in that mere fraction of seconds, it's enough for me to realise that Minato's reaction speed is above that of V2 Raikage

No. Minato threw the Kunais before this image. He reacted to Raikage's chakra trail and used FTG.

@Turson I am aware which is why I said that this isn't as impressive as back when he saved kakashi. Obito wanted him to teleport out. Hence he launched Naruto into the air with an explosive tag. Minato even here used Body Flicker and then teleported.
 
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