Religion - Bible

[Prime Rib]

Well all religion are hyprocrites and just as bad, i am no atheist i am no christian i just believe in god and jesus christ is my lord and savior, but anyways islamic religion promotes violence and is tolerated and accepted

 

[YowYan]

It's amazing how people come with al interpretations when it comes to religion, they seem that they just don't want to believe it... It's good to question things, it shows you think critically, but still be open minded...

Like I said, I'm as open minded as one can get. You guys are just having a hard time grasping my words as I'm not elaborating enough.

Let's just make this clear..I am not an atheist. I am not debunking the concept of god, I am debunking the delusional interpretations of god that people hold so dear in their cultures/households and organized religions.

 

[foxyladyland]

Some people have to keep in mind that god, gave us free will so blaming him for your issues is retarded.
Thatts like me building island, giving them food and the resources they need to survive. Well time passes on these people are making weapons,cars,buildings all kinds of things. People are killing eachother, there is war going on, sick people doing sick things. I gave them free will, i let them do as they please, dont blame to me because you didnt pay your bills this month or you got knocked up at 16 cause you couldnt keep your legs closed. You made the choices you made, you pay for your mistakes. Every action has a reaction. I dont blame god for none of my problems, thats why they are MY problems

what about the babies born with deformities??

 

[King-Panda]

Well all religion are hyprocrites and just as bad, i am no atheist i am no christian i just believe in god and jesus christ is my lord and savior, but anyways islamic religion promotes violence and is tolerated and accepted

I am glad i came back here to check somw stuff u forgot... that was vry ignorant of you, there are many muslim in the word and it isnt their failt that you and others are brainwashed, by a professional liar (media, goverment, etc) tha the muslim religipn promotes violence. I am not a muslim myself andd tere are many in NB so be careful with what you say.. Learn more about the islam religion, educate yourself before insulting it, its like someone saying christianity promotes paedophily..

anyway, i am going off today, I talked to Mods already, anyone trying disrespecting other will be resported!!!

wrote this from my phone so excusw mw for any spelling errors

 

[foxyladyland]

there's no such things as bad guy, you seem to no get my point!! SATAN is not what you see in the movies, that punish people etc... please check what i said again, in a pont that starts with "attention, attention"...

Many times people say why god doesn't help people starving... I know what would happen... People would just start being spoiled, and be like "why help those and not others", so would consider certain stuff bad and expect god to fix it. After death there's life... You are in earth to gain experience, have knowledge and build wisdom and I don't like this term, but be judged....


I thought you were religious, with an open mind, like me, but i was wrong lool

You seem to not get my point!! I said its what people perceive it as, not that its evil itself.
It being Satan.

I have read plenty of the bible and have an insightful understanding on everything you're trying to explain already.

If we're being judged its something that even GOD deserves to be if GOD or anyone else should do the judging.

Being religious with an open mind isn't exactly being religious as you put it into presentation.

The religion of the bible is what were discussing so its all in writing. If you go against that then are you really
apart of that religion?

Humans give others medicine so help them feel better; people go to hospitals for it.

If being spiritual is possible then we are all with spirits right; so would we have to not have a spirit to
not be spiritual?

I believe religion is unnecessary , yet it can be used as a tool of learning an understanding with studying humanity.

If you really believe strongly about your ideas and thoughts then why not pursue a higher method of reaching out to people?

 

[l Forgotten l]

what about the babies born with deformities??

They just have deformities. They are still loved. I dont know, when you die ask him that.
Foxy you know what exactly what im talking about and where im getting at, dont try act like you dont know what im talking about. You already know me and you dont get along when it comes to religion so dont start with me.

 

[foxyladyland]

They just have deformities. They are still loved. I dont know, when you die ask him that.
Foxy you know what exactly what im talking about and where im getting at, dont try act retarded on NB.

I really wish I could :flowers wonder if meeting HIM is possible as in the way HE is presented in the bible,
in some stories.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Science without religion is lame

I disagree, Science is cool by its own right =D

Seeing what my profession is I have to say that physics is THE science

Physics is applied Mathematics! Math is King

Some people have to keep in mind that god, gave us free will so blaming him for your issues is retarded.

We do have to blame him! After all, a consequence of free will is Evil, something that God created in the first place. He created the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, put it right there in the Garden of Eden, created Satan with the complete knowledge he would tempt them, and let him tempt them!

How is it not his fault if he created it with the sole intentions of placing rules upon our free will later? Lol

Exactly. It is, at the core, a spiritual guide. I was just referring to the delusions that some cling onto which is unnecessary but also unimportant to confront ppl with if they use religion solely to steer their lives.

One thing I do want to ask...Do we really need a book to teach us core, fundamental principles of morality? Ironically, it doesn't go any further than that. Just telling us "this is wrong" permanently places followers in a Stage One of psychological morality, where we "don't or do do this" because "I will get in trouble if I don't". It doesn't go into more detail than that, or even give fables about how sometimes the rules must be loosened because going along with the rules is immoral in itself!

but anyways islamic religion promotes violence and is tolerated and accepted

I don't know if you are sincerely singling out just one religion, but so does Judaism and Christianity. These religions aren't exactly clean themselves, you know.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

God created the Universe, Planet, Physics, Quantium Physics, matter, life, DNA, and everything else. Everything in this universe is the result of him, even according to your bible. Science tries to understand his creation and explain it in human understandable terms.

This Universe and Planet is of his creation and unlike a book it cannot be changed by mere mortals. This universe is the written history of god and this planet is his handy work when creating life. Understand what he created and you will understand him, no Books needed.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

Why can't you just form your own belief? Why do you have to follow the bible? So many people have already twisted and turned the words that are written in the bible already, to make it more suitable for this day and age.

 

[HiraishinFTG]

How is science "against religion"? Really c'mon now hmm

 

[Anorien16]

Well try to view the lessons in Bible in a symbolic manner, Bible literalism is an recent epidemic madness. Also try to ignore some contradiction, they tend to creep in successive human translations.

Also as far as I remember Jesus never made it mandatory to follow the Bible literally and blindly to be true a Christian, as he seemingly broke a few of the old laws for the sake of justice. If u ignore the usual shit people shit u might notice that Jesus showed the a path of life dictated by love and conscience ...... he never forced devotion or worship from others, rather people gathered to him out of love and gratitude.

 

[Marimo]

People say science contradicts religion, I have never seen any science fact that contradicts religion.
Science hasn't proven that God exists nor has it proven that He doesn't.
The big Bag theory is a theory, the evolution is also just a theory. They haven't been proven.

Attention, Attention

I don't know what some people mean by Satan...

If you think he is some "guy" that punishes you for your sins and that you are wrong. That would make him useful actually...*

Lucifer (meaning the morning star) wass one of three archangels, and was the most perfect one, and it's said the God favourite one... Arrogance grew into him, and eventually he went against god, but wasn't successful and fell to Earth... It's said that he won't redeem and his aim is to take as many as he can with him, he knows what the future awaits for him....

The Christian Bible has been changed over the ages by humans, you can no longer identify what part is the word of God and what part is made up by humans. You can clearly tell that because there are so many versions of the Bible. That's why there is a misconception that Satan is supposed to punish people for their sins. No he's not going to punish people for the sins, in fact he himself will go to hell and will be punished along with the people he managed to astray in this world.
I believe if the Bible was in it's true form as revealed by God many of the arguments against religion wouldn't exist.

 

[King-Panda]

People say science contradicts religion, I have never seen any science fact that contradicts religion.
Science hasn't proven that God exists nor has it proven that He doesn't.
The big Bag theory is a theory, the evolution is also just a theory. They haven't been proven.


The Christian Bible has been changed over the ages by humans, you can no longer identify what part is the word of God and what part is made up by humans. You can clearly tell that because there are so many versions of the Bible. That's why there is a misconception that Satan is supposed to punish people for their sins. No he's not going to punish people for the sins, in fact he himself will go to hell and will be punished along with the people he managed to astray in this world.
I believe if the Bible was in it's true form as revealed by God many of the arguments against religion wouldn't exist.

I am a christian catholic, but, I like more the Islamic religion and the 7th day adventist, much better.... And ofc, if he does in fact exist, he will try his best to deceive people, as said, they use the art of deception a lot to manipulate people

You seem to not get my point!! I said its what people perceive it as, not that its evil itself.
It being Satan.

I have read plenty of the bible and have an insightful understanding on everything you're trying to explain already.

If we're being judged its something that even GOD deserves to be if GOD or anyone else should do the judging.

Being religious with an open mind isn't exactly being religious as you put it into presentation.

The religion of the bible is what were discussing so its all in writing. If you go against that then are you really
apart of that religion?

Humans give others medicine so help them feel better; people go to hospitals for it.

If being spiritual is possible then we are all with spirits right; so would we have to not have a spirit to
not be spiritual?

I believe religion is unnecessary , yet it can be used as a tool of learning an understanding with studying humanity.

If you really believe strongly about your ideas and thoughts then why not pursue a higher method of reaching out to people?

What do you mean with your last question??? To reach more knowledgeable people?? I do that..

And about this "Being religious with an open mind isn't exactly being religious as you put it into presentation."
This is what I was talking about in the thread... Why, but why people think if you are logical you are not??? So then you are saying religious people should be close minded, illogical, etc...? Nah, just nah son...
As you said, it's not like I won't take someone to hospital for being religious, that's the most stupid thing ever... Miracles don't happen like people think they do...

And if that is what people see satan as, they should educate themselves

So what's the point of this thread?

small minds can never understand great things, this is a discussion about the bibble and science, everyone seem to have understood it, if you didn't, don't worry, go and watch naruto

Why can't you just form your own belief? Why do you have to follow the bible? So many people have already twisted and turned the words that are written in the bible already, to make it more suitable for this day and age.

That's my point, I take the information from the bible and have my own interpretation

God created the Universe, Planet, Physics, Quantium Physics, matter, life, DNA, and everything else. Everything in this universe is the result of him, even according to your bible. Science tries to understand his creation and explain it in human understandable terms.

This Universe and Planet is of his creation and unlike a book it cannot be changed by mere mortals. This universe is the written history of god and this planet is his handy work when creating life. Understand what he created and you will understand him, no Books needed.

Well try to view the lessons in Bible in a symbolic manner, Bible literalism is an recent epidemic madness. Also try to ignore some contradiction, they tend to creep in successive human translations.

Also as far as I remember Jesus never made it mandatory to follow the Bible literally and blindly to be true a Christian, as he seemingly broke a few of the old laws for the sake of justice. If u ignore the usual shit people shit u might notice that Jesus showed the a path of life dictated by love and conscience ...... he never forced devotion or worship from others, rather people gathered to him out of love and gratitude.

 

[Olorin]

LOL I do geology son, I know what I am talking abut we talk about it etc... and physics is about it too, with more understanding of how, but they can go nowhere without geologists.....

I am a physicist so i know what im talking about as well

Do please tell me how geology is more proficient at understanding the world as physics

And to someone who wrote about math, I agree, without math no science would be possible, though since I studied both I just use the word physics which for me in a sense means both

God created the Universe, Planet, Physics, Quantium Physics, matter, life, DNA, and everything else. Everything in this universe is the result of him, even according to your bible. Science tries to understand his creation and explain it in human understandable terms.

This Universe and Planet is of his creation and unlike a book it cannot be changed by mere mortals. This universe is the written history of god and this planet is his handy work when creating life. Understand what he created and you will understand him, no Books needed.

I believe that the world and everything else was created by a bein called Eru Illuvatar and than he sent the Valar from his timeless halls to be the rullers of this world, bu than when the dark lord Melkor arose they defeated him and locked him up

However one of his servants remained, he was defeated once before but he came back,he tried to rule over our world but the Valar send the Istari from Valinor to guide us so that we could defeat him, and eventually thanks to a certain someone who could also make miracles and under his guidance our ancestors rid this world of evil and than the firstborn departed into the west

I believe in Him who was their guide and his name is Olorin ........ Also called Gandalf by some people

And dont anyone dare to deny my religion without disproving it with facts first! And since Eru created the entire universe and everything in it and if you study it you just study his history you have NO argument to make against me ... Therefore what I wrote is 100% true

 

[6ari8]

Well all religion are hyprocrites and just as bad, i am no atheist i am no christian i just believe in god and jesus christ is my lord and savior, but anyways islamic religion promotes violence and is tolerated and accepted

Islam doesn't promote violence. People misinterpret/take things out of context to justify their doings. If you still think it does, give me one script from the Qura'an that does so.

 

[hokutoshinken]

Where does this Bible prophecy is being fulfilled in the Bible?

Genesis 17,20
"As for Ishmael, I will bless him also, just as you have asked. I will make him extremely fruitful and multiply his descendants. He will become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation."

In this passage, the Lord said that Ishmael will be blessed and that THEREFORE, 12 Princes shall come out of him (his sons), and he will become a great nation!

Where this occurs in the Bible? Did the Bible miss the prophecies?

 

[foxyladyland]

What do you mean with your last question??? To reach more knowledgeable people?? I do that..

And about this "Being religious with an open mind isn't exactly being religious as you put it into presentation."
This is what I was talking about in the thread... Why, but why people think if you are logical you are not??? So then you are saying religious people should be close minded, illogical, etc...? Nah, just nah son...
As you said, it's not like I won't take someone to hospital for being religious, that's the most stupid thing ever... Miracles don't happen like people think they do...

And if that is what people see satan as, they should educate themselves

I have a pretty great view on religion.. I used to try and devote myself kinda to the bible

I wanted to read into all religions or at least more of the more *mainstream* religions

I wouldn't consider myself religious .. even if I read the bible on a daily basis..

im not into believing or caring about religion ... I think it should be practiced for fun and not full devotion..

it causes too many problems. I think it should be taken as a nice read..

meant for us humans to learn more about life and ourselves and the way we think about things.

People are afraid of GOD, a character from a book, who they think they are meant to serve..

Not even the most devoted human could possibly understand any truth about GOD by reading any book

written by any human... especially if they weren't there to see it come to fruition. Lol

 

[Anorien16]

I believe that the world and everything else was created by a bein called Eru Illuvatar and than he sent the Valar from his timeless halls to be the rullers of this world, bu than when the dark lord Melkor arose they defeated him and locked him up

However one of his servants remained, he was defeated once before but he came back,he tried to rule over our world but the Valar send the Istari from Valinor to guide us so that we could defeat him, and eventually thanks to a certain someone who could also make miracles and under his guidance our ancestors rid this world of evil and than the firstborn departed into the west

I believe in Him who was their guide and his name is Olorin ........ Also called Gandalf by some people

And dont anyone dare to deny my religion without disproving it with facts first! And since Eru created the entire universe and everything in it and if you study it you just study his history you have NO argument to make against me ... Therefore what I wrote is 100% true

By the baby Turin Turambar, FINALLY someone else who have read the Silmarillion for Manwe sake. Nice to meet ya.

 

[King-Panda]

I have a pretty great view on religion.. I used to try and devote myself kinda to the bible

I wanted to read into all religions or at least more of the more *mainstream* religions

I wouldn't consider myself religious .. even if I read the bible on a daily basis..

im not into believing or caring about religion ... I think it should be practiced for fun and not full devotion..

it causes too many problems. I think it should be taken as a nice read..

meant for us humans to learn more about life and ourselves and the way we think about things.

People are afraid of GOD, a character from a book, who they think they are meant to serve..

Not even the most devoted human could possibly understand any truth about GOD by reading any book

written by any human... especially if they weren't there to see it come to fruition. Lol

tried to rep you, but can't atm, I think i have done it yesterday already

I am a physicist so i know what im talking about as well

Do please tell me how geology is more proficient at understanding the world as physics

And to someone who wrote about math, I agree, without math no science would be possible, though since I studied both I just use the word physics which for me in a sense means both




I believe that the world and everything else was created by a bein called Eru Illuvatar and than he sent the Valar from his timeless halls to be the rullers of this world, bu than when the dark lord Melkor arose they defeated him and locked him up

However one of his servants remained, he was defeated once before but he came back,he tried to rule over our world but the Valar send the Istari from Valinor to guide us so that we could defeat him, and eventually thanks to a certain someone who could also make miracles and under his guidance our ancestors rid this world of evil and than the firstborn departed into the west

I believe in Him who was their guide and his name is Olorin ........ Also called Gandalf by some people

And dont anyone dare to deny my religion without disproving it with facts first! And since Eru created the entire universe and everything in it and if you study it you just study his history you have NO argument to make against me ... Therefore what I wrote is 100% true

Do please tell me how geology is more proficient at understanding the world as physics
This is so typical of people that do physics and such.. where did I say so??

If you do physics, good for you... Firstly you said geology had nothing to do with universe formation and it was all physics, first geology studies also other planets and solid material in the universe, how things formed so we can also understand how earth was formed, and then there's also astronomy, physics, etc... Of course with physics you will work more in the bit of understanding HOW things work.... Therefore physics has more to do with universde and that, happy now?? commemorate

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