[Discussion] If God is all-knowing, then what's the point?

[Henchman24]

This is a forum..you can express yourself here but if not feel free to VM or PM me and ill try to get back to you on your issues.



This is why God always in the bible says "I AM". HE is everything but the only disagreement i will make with your post is that he cares and he LOVES. If this free will was an illusion then love cannot exist and no one can argue against the existence of TRUE LOVE.

Someone that has never experienced love could argue against its existence.

I only say that free will is kind of an illusion. Of course we make day to day decisions that effect our lives.

What I am saying is that in the end of it all there was nothing you ever did in your life that could have been changed.

Take the last 5 years of your life for example. You might remember something that didn't go the way you had hoped and maybe if you had done this instead of that things would be different.

But here we are and nothing we say or do now could change the last 5 years.

It makes me think that everything is on a set path and no matter what we will end up where ever we end up.

Maybe I should say that control is our illusion rather then free will.

 

[Henchman24]

That's the root of the problem. If I decided to be atheist, right now, that's exactly the path God knew I would take. If I'm supposed to be Christian, something will happen to change me later on. In this perspective, there is no point in making choices because you can't escape your 'destiny'.

Some people give up on life because of these questions. I feel that life and the choices made have meaning if we ourselves decide that they do. It should be ourselves that give meaning to our lives. Not a myth.

I am no atheist. I am not arrogant enough to say that God as described in the bible does not exist. I cannot say however that God does exist. There is so little we know about existence.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

Some people give up on life because of these questions. I feel that life and the choices made have meaning if we ourselves decide that they do. It should be ourselves that give meaning to our lives. Not a myth.

I am no atheist. I am not arrogant enough to say that God as described in the bible does not exist. I cannot say however that God does exist. There is so little we know about existence.

Not even the truest of Atheists can really say God doesn't exist. There's always that possibility, and it will never go away.

 

[Hunty]

That's not right.. I'm right here.

It's true, "all-knowing," really? Then he already know the outcome, so what's the point?!

 

[Souji]

Religion tells us this our punishment for our sins against God. It's a morbid way of thinking about it though. I believe that God would love his creations, no matter what.

 

[Hunty]

If God doesn't exist, then if reason exists, then God doesn't exist.

If I say something doesn't have a cause, it doesn't have a cause. I say the universe doesn't have a cause. Therefore, the universe doesn't have a cause. Therefore, God doesn't exist. I define God to be X. Since I cannot conceive of X, X must not exist. Therefore, God doesn't exist. I can’t conceive of a perfect God. One of the qualities of perfection is existence. Therefore, God doesn't exist. Person X, a well-known theist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
Therefore, God doesn't exist.

 

[Vilvake]

If God doesn't exist, then if reason exists, then God doesn't exist.

If I say something doesn't have a cause, it doesn't have a cause. I say the universe doesn't have a cause. Therefore, the universe doesn't have a cause. Therefore, God doesn't exist. I define God to be X. Since I cannot conceive of X, X must not exist. Therefore, God doesn't exist. I can’t conceive of a perfect God. One of the qualities of perfection is existence. Therefore, God doesn't exist. Person X, a well-known theist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
Therefore, God doesn't exist.

I'm not going to even begin to pretend I understood any of that.

 

[Hunty]

I'm not going to even begin to pretend I understood any of that.

It's the Adderall.

 

[lmao234]

I don't wanna be rude to your religion, I'm Buddhist and my sig says it all.
Don't feel angry, I respect the fact that there are other religions. In fact we believe that the are your gods, they are not just not the main ones.
For your questions, everyone has a reason, like the reason Tobi wants to destroy the world.

 

[lmao234]

Religion tells us this our punishment for our sins against God. It's a morbid way of thinking about it though. I believe that God would love his creations, no matter what.[/Qnot bad drawing u have there, did u draw that?

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I need to give you guys some daa'wah.

 

[King Envy G]

I actually wrote out these questions a couple years ago, when I was 14, for another website. So that's why a couple of them may seem pretty immature.... but I'll leave them all intact anyway.

My family is Christian, so I wrote the questions from that perspective. But if you want to answer them from the point of view of another religion, feel free.

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If God already knows the outcome of our life, why put us through the test?
Why create us knowing very well who would go to heaven, and who would go to hell?

What's the point of creating us at all? The depressed would be relieved of there suffering, and the happy wouldn't know the difference.

Why create Lucifer knowing he would become the Devil?

Why create people incapable of knowing Him, whether by disorder or living in a time or place He is not known?

Why allow babies to die and gays to be born? Why give people a disadvantage, or advantage, to gain admittance to heaven?

Why does God care at all? If he desperately desires company, why not create some people in heaven, cutting out the middleman?

If God created us, who created God? Isn't the big bang theory more believable than a supernatural being who just happened to exist for all eternity?

Why would God create billions of people knowing they would suffer in hell for all eternity, the hell He either directly or indirectly created?

If I created a robot knowing it would kill someone, that is murder. So therefore, doesn't God sin by creating murderers? Or by creating anyone at all, since everyone sins?

Why allow a serial killer into heaven, who repented in the last hour of his life, but deny a non-believer, who spent his entire life helping people? This once again shows favoritism- the man who killed many, denying them a fair chance to believe, is the good guy, but the man who lengthened many's chances is the bad?

What's the point of God at all? A being that hasn't lived is incapable of longing for or missing it. Complete non-existence would save us all a lot of trouble, God included.

Basically the same question asked over and over.
In summary: Is this all a sadistic game to him?

Why don't you go to heaven, and find out for the rest of us, and let us know?

 

[FuChomei]

I don't believe in God so I honestly can't answer this.

 

[Strawberry]

god may have created the world, i doubt it. but if he did he doesnt interfere with it. it is mans job to help one another relieve each others pains and rise above all the hate we have and bee good people. i dont believe in heaven/hell but if i do go to heaven it wont be because i prayed but i was nice to people, didnt harm anyone , helped others, and was good person, if your god is all knowing he will know the good in my heart and accept me

 

[Sanguis]

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[-Sky-]

Your answer is simple: Experience


The things you experience in life can't be experienced in any other fashion. Love, hope, dreams, success, passion; but also anger, hatred, fear, and pain.

You see, if everything was perfect, then there wouldn't be anything at all. Perfection itself is unattainable, along with pure evil. There is no such thing as being "All in" on either side. Including God and Satan.

The battle against evil is a never-ending one. You have to keep fight and keep fighting, to persevere through the darkest of times.

For if you can't face the worst, how can you possibly deserve the best? Forget about religion. Those are cultures manipulated by people to each their owns. Focus on what's right, and what's best.

Because doing the right thing, showing love and compassion, is God's religion.


P.S. "God" can be anything, a single spirit or the universe itself. When you think about it, our existence is something that is truly a miracle. From a scientific standpoint, we should not even be here, yet we are by the grace of some charm that no human is capable of wrapping their minds around, at least for this lifetime.

Have faith, it will save you a lot of trouble.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

He knows the outcome of all reactions between particles, matter, events, and how objects will move without interference. So he knows what particles in space will hit Earth between now and the end of the universe should nothing interfere.

He can also guess how organics will react into the future as well, though it is quite inaccurate as we tend to not make logical decisions at times. If we did everything in an intelligent and logical manner he would know our entire future. We however do not do such things. What he sees as the future and what we do changes all of the time due to organics changing their paths and their current way of thinking. He does not know our entire future, only what will happen at our current rate. If we change from our norm then it changes the future of us and everyone around us.

Don't take Adderall, it is basically Speed. Will f*** up your memory.

 

[Krauq]

There's no evidence for a god so who cares?