I'm sorry, but this just makes zero sense (Bee's reflexes to FTG)

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TheCCV

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The way Bee reacted to Minato's FTG. BEfore I go into this, I just want to make this clear.
I'm not a fanboy, but Minato is awesome.
I think Bee is cool too.
Bee can 7 times out of 10 beat Minato with Low-Mid diff.
However, Minato will always be faster than Bee.

Now, what I want to talk about here is Bee's reaction to Minato's FTG, and how pretty much impossible it was, and why I think it was a very strong plot move.
Here, we can see the distance between A/B and Minato during their confrontation.
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That's pretty far apart. Raikage and Minato were the only 2 people there with speed of their league. There shouldn't have been anybody else there, really.

Now when Raikage makes a move to blitz Minato, it failed. Minato had already had a Kunai stuck to a nearby tree that he flashed to.
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Here, we can see A immediantly destroying any distance they had between each other. There was no dodging that unless you had god-tier speed, which Minato had with his FTG. So he was able to flash dodge it.

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Now, if it took A about 0.5 seconds (I think a full second would be too long) to close that distance, all the way to Minato from what you saw in that first picture, how much further to you think he was able to go in the say 0.2 or 0.3 seconds it took Minato to flash back to him? Probably close to double the distance.

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Now, you see B tossing out a tentacle to push A out of the way. I never liked this scene, or that particular save. I think it was the worst save in Part 2, and that A should've saved himself. And here's why I don't like it.

1) Bee was nowhere near A or Minato's speed. They were top teir.
2) Bee was way too far away to have his tentacle stretch out THAT fast. I mean, I'll give him some credit. He's fast. But he's not A/Minato type of fast.
3) Basically, what they're saying is that B's tentacle is faster than FTG. FTG is an instant move, the only pausing inbetween it is the users pausing to plan their next move.
4) Lastly, it was just terribly posed. I mean come on, do you understand what happened in this scene? A tried to speed blitz Minato, Minato FTG'd out of his way, and B released his tentacle fast enough to intercept it.

And that's all I really have to say. And I know Naruto is just a manga, and you're going to say 'anything is possible' or 'physics don't exist in Naruto', but they do. 99% of the time, there's a working mechanic to everything, and a counter to beat it. B's tentacle sohuldn't have been a counter to Minato's FTG. It was just wrong, but of course A had to survive for plot reasons.. so what do you think? Do you agree with my saying on why B's tentacle save was way too out of place, or do you agree with it and think it was reasonable?
 

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you underestimate bee.
 

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bee just has a reaction time/reflexes that is on par or if not better than minato is all i see here
 

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Bee's reaction time is equal to if not better than minato's but his speed is not equal to if not better than minato's.
 

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bee just has a reaction time on par or if not better than minato is all i see here
But that doesn't make sense. If B had that type of reaction, that would be his gimmick. But B is a powerhouse jinchuuriki, not a speed blitzer like Minato or A.
And even so... how is it possible to intercept an INSTANT move, releasing a tentacle inbetween that much distance?
 

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The tentacle didn't move faster. It's possible Bee began moving the tentacle before Minato teleported to A.
 

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My Only Rationalization Is That Minato Didn't Use FTG For His Attack And Instead Was Only Using Base speed That Bee Was Able To Keep Up With.

There Wasn't Really Any Proof That He Used FTG To Attack. No Seal, No kunai.

Other Than That idk
 

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But that doesn't make sense. If B had that type of reaction, that would be his gimmick. But B is a powerhouse jinchuuriki, not a speed blitzer like Minato or A.
And even so... how is it possible to intercept an INSTANT move, releasing a tentacle inbetween that much distance?

you are focusing on speed which is different from reflexes, bee reacted to ftg in that same manga chapter when minato used it on bee

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My Only Rationalization Is That Minato Didn't Use FTG For His Attack And Instead Was Only Using Base speed That Bee Was Able To Keep Up With.

There Wasn't Really Any Proof That He Used FTG To Attack. No Seal, No kunai.

Other Than That idk
But there was a Kunai there. Minato tossed a kunai to the side before flashing to the tree.. he used that same Kunai to flash back to behind A's back and almost stabbed him.
 

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Minato > Bee. Heck, Minato > Ay and Bee. Yes, Bee has great reflexes, but Minato is the King of Reflexes and Speed in Naruto. Facts.
 

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you are focusing on speed which is different from reflexes, bee reacted to ftg in that same manga chapter when he used it on bee

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That manga scan seems more realistic. If Minato is flashing behind B, and he's already got his sword/nunchuck things in his hands, all he would really have to do is stiffin them up and get ready to attack.

But let me try and break this down more.
It's possible to have the greateset reflexes in the world. But do you think reflexes can respond to instant movement?
And if there's something I'm still not getting, could you explain to me the difference between speed and reflexes?
 

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But that doesn't make sense. If B had that type of reaction, that would be his gimmick. But B is a powerhouse jinchuuriki, not a speed blitzer like Minato or A.
And even so... how is it possible to intercept an INSTANT move, releasing a tentacle inbetween that much distance?
maybe bee had released the tentacle before raikage got near minato.
 

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Minato > Bee. Heck, Minato > Ay and Bee. Yes, Bee has great reflexes, but Minato is the King of Reflexes and Speed in Naruto. Facts.
So do you agree or disagree with my post?
 

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That manga scan seems more realistic. If Minato is flashing behind B, and he's already got his sword/nunchuck things in his hands, all he would really have to do is stiffin them up and get ready to attack.

But let me try and break this down more.
It's possible to have the greateset reflexes in the world. But do you think reflexes can respond to instant movement?

bee pointed his sword at minato the moment he appeared. i'lll try to find the anime scene of the fight
i don't know kishi wrote the manga lol, pretty sure bee has never seen ftg until his fight with Minato yet he reacted to both levels of ftg

and this is manga real life statistics don't necessarily apply, most people underestimate killer bee
 

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But there was a Kunai there. Minato tossed a kunai to the side before flashing to the tree.. he used that same Kunai to flash back to behind A's back and almost stabbed him.

Possibly. They Were Scattered All Around The Field infront Of Minato But Also If A Kept Moving Forward After Minatos Dodge Then He Would Have Been Behind Where Minato Was Standing When He Threw The Kunai In Front Of Him.

Plus There Was No "Flicker" Sound Effect When He Went After A.D.
 
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