Uzumaki Clan, the new Senju's from the Narutoverse?

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While the Senju were the strongest in the past without any doubt, they are now nothing like that anymore. Tsunade IS strong and deserves a lot of respect, but she is not on the top like the Senju's were.

The Uchiha's remain strong, in the past and also now. They are still top level.

Too me it seems the Uzumaki are now the rival clan from the Uchiha's if we are talking about power. Naruto and Nagato together for example would f*cking destroy whole villages without any problem, this duo would be epic. And please also don't underestimate Kushina, she was hell of a strong one too!


Naruto needs to restore the Uzumaki clan after the war.
 
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While the Senju were the strongest in the past without any doubt, they are now nothing like that anymore. Tsunade IS strong and deserves a lot of respect, but she is not on the top like the Senju's were.

The Uchiha's remain strong, in the past and also now. They are still top level.

Too me it seems the Uzumaki are now the rival clan from the Uchiha's if we are talking about power. Naruto and Nagato together for example would f*cking destroy whole villages without any problem, this duo would be epic. And please also don't underestimate Kushina, she was hell of a strong one too!


Naruto needs to restore the Uzumaki clan after the war.
Madara disagrees U_U
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Madara disagrees U_U
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At least Senju's always fought, not like Uchiha's who just surrendered when things became tough.

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At least Senju's always fought, not like Uchiha's who just surrendered when things became tough.

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Awtch.

That just means they're smart, why would you die for no reason?
 

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there was a reason the uzumaki clan was feared in the first place to the point that someone thought they needed to exterminate them :|

senju are just not seen anymore so we cant really say they weakened since we have no idea where any are -.- tsunade isnt pure senju either she is both senju and uzumaki
 

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At least Senju's always fought, not like Uchiha's who just surrendered when things became tough.

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Awtch.

Oh well, some of them surrendered and some of them fought and died like a real heroes.
 

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Sure sure..if naruto will be the so6p thn he will
 

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While the Senju were the strongest in the past without any doubt, they are now nothing like that anymore. Tsunade IS strong and deserves a lot of respect, but she is not on the top like the Senju's were.

The Uchiha's remain strong, in the past and also now. They are still top level.

Too me it seems the Uzumaki are now the rival clan from the Uchiha's if we are talking about power. Naruto and Nagato together for example would f*cking destroy whole villages without any problem, this duo would be epic. And please also don't underestimate Kushina, she was hell of a strong one too!


Naruto needs to restore the Uzumaki clan after the war.



We know nothing of Kushina abilities, so saying she's strong is nonsense.Surviving for a little while after having Kurama force out of her isn't an ability that would help her in a battle.Naruto has the Kurama inside him, take away Kurama and he's not on any of the Uchiha's level(Sasuke, Itachi, Madara,Obito, etc) And even with Kurama, Madara is still pawning him.Nagato was giving Madara eyes by Madara himself, remove the Madara's eyes and I doubt he's even top 20.Your argument is doesn't hold weight, the Uchiha and Senju fought with there own power , the only powerful Uzumaki we know are fighting with the power of others.

Example - If Madara was alive and fighting Nagato, Madara would still have his Rinnegan, so how could Nagato beat him?


The only rival to the Uchiha Clan will alway Be the Senju Clan.If the Senju clans isn't around, the Uchiha have no rivals
 
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We know nothing of Kushina abilities, so saying she's strong is nonsense.Surviving for a little while after having Kurama force out of her isn't an ability that would help her in a battle.Naruto has the Kurama inside him, take away Kurama and he's not on any of the Uchiha's level(Sasuke, Itachi, Madara,Obito, etc) And even with Kurama, Madara is still pawning him.Nagato was giving Madara eyes by Madara himself, remove the Madara's eyes and I doubt he's even top 20.Your argument is doesn't hold weight, the Uchiha and Senju fought with there own power , the only powerful Uzumaki we know are fighting with the power of others.

Example - If Madara was alive and fighting Nagato, Madara would still have his Rinnegan, so how could Nagato beat him?


The only rival to the Uchiha Clan will alway Be the Senju Clan.If the Senju clans isn't around, the Uchiha have no rivals

Saying the only thing we have seen from Kushina is survival of the kyuubi extraction is fallacious. Although it is true we have only seen her chakra chains, they are enough. Gamabunta placed on 100% kyuubi could barely keep him bounded, while Kushina while she was nearly dead was able to make him move as if he were a doll with barely any chains. Now imagine her at full health using many chains, doubt anyone can fight her while this restricted unless they use genjutsu.

Claiming What-if's to create favorable scenarios on your side can be done as well on the other side regardless of the topic or situation. (e.g. What if Naruto did not have the kyuubi, but had both his parents to not only make him much more intelligent then nearly every other shinobi, but also teach him most of what they know. Naruto with rasengan, FTG, FRS, Seals, summonings, Sage mode, high levels of chakra, and high levels of intelligence over Sasuke or Obito).

Saying Madara fights with his own powers shows how well your reading skills are. Madara received the rinnegan from Hashirama's senju DNA, meaning Hashirama's power. Madara received his EMS from his brother, Izuna Uchiha, not his own power. I would love to see Madara 'pawning' Naruto without Kabuto/Orochimaru's power, not his own, which is eco-tensei, do you really think he could still be fighting after this long? I would love to see Madara or any other Uchiha attempt to hold a bijuu without dying, while Uzumaki's are hypothetically made for that cause.

Uchiha have no rivals? They don't seem to be as strong as they were stated in the beginning. Most of them are fodders except for the few we know (Izuna, Madara, Obito, Itachi, Sasuke, Shisui) the rest are mere fodders or Asuma level at most. What can good eyes do when the user cannot react fast enough to them? If you recalled the lee vs sasuke fight, even when he had the sharingan, if an uchiha's body isn't fast enough, he wont be able to use his eyes tot heir full potential. Itachi took out his entire clan as a teenager, this just shows how easily it could be done by a single person who barely has chakra. Shisui got destroyed by Danzo, and got scared to the point where he ran away, while Sasuke destroyed him without ems. This is just showing you that your beloved clan isn't as strong as you make it seem. Current Uchiha clan (using their own powers) would be Sasuke and Obito. Sasuke with his own power (no itachi eyes) would be blind. Obito with his own power would have two ms and half a face/body. These two would lose to the aburame clan, inidcating what a joke the Uchia's are without others powers. If they don't use their own powers, Sasuke would have EMS (He can see!) and Obito would have a MS+Rinnegan combo. This being said, they still would debatably lose to a Bee+A Combo.
 

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Saying the only thing we have seen from Kushina is survival of the kyuubi extraction is fallacious. Although it is true we have only seen her chakra chains, they are enough. Gamabunta placed on 100% kyuubi could barely keep him bounded, while Kushina while she was nearly dead was able to make him move as if he were a doll with barely any chains. Now imagine her at full health using many chains, doubt anyone can fight her while this restricted unless they use genjutsu.

Claiming What-if's to create favorable scenarios on your side can be done as well on the other side regardless of the topic or situation. (e.g. What if Naruto did not have the kyuubi, but had both his parents to not only make him much more intelligent then nearly every other shinobi, but also teach him most of what they know. Naruto with rasengan, FTG, FRS, Seals, summonings, Sage mode, high levels of chakra, and high levels of intelligence over Sasuke or Obito).

Saying Madara fights with his own powers shows how well your reading skills are. Madara received the rinnegan from Hashirama's senju DNA, meaning Hashirama's power. Madara received his EMS from his brother, Izuna Uchiha, not his own power. I would love to see Madara 'pawning' Naruto without Kabuto/Orochimaru's power, not his own, which is eco-tensei, do you really think he could still be fighting after this long? I would love to see Madara or any other Uchiha attempt to hold a bijuu without dying, while Uzumaki's are hypothetically made for that cause.

Uchiha have no rivals? They don't seem to be as strong as they were stated in the beginning. Most of them are fodders except for the few we know (Izuna, Madara, Obito, Itachi, Sasuke, Shisui) the rest are mere fodders or Asuma level at most. What can good eyes do when the user cannot react fast enough to them? If you recalled the lee vs sasuke fight, even when he had the sharingan, if an uchiha's body isn't fast enough, he wont be able to use his eyes tot heir full potential. Itachi took out his entire clan as a teenager, this just shows how easily it could be done by a single person who barely has chakra. Shisui got destroyed by Danzo, and got scared to the point where he ran away, while Sasuke destroyed him without ems. This is just showing you that your beloved clan isn't as strong as you make it seem. Current Uchiha clan (using their own powers) would be Sasuke and Obito. Sasuke with his own power (no itachi eyes) would be blind. Obito with his own power would have two ms and half a face/body. These two would lose to the aburame clan, inidcating what a joke the Uchia's are without others powers. If they don't use their own powers, Sasuke would have EMS (He can see!) and Obito would have a MS+Rinnegan combo. This being said, they still would debatably lose to a Bee+A Combo.

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We know nothing of Kushina abilities, so saying she's strong is nonsense.Surviving for a little while after having Kurama force out of her isn't an ability that would help her in a battle.Naruto has the Kurama inside him, take away Kurama and he's not on any of the Uchiha's level(Sasuke, Itachi, Madara,Obito, etc) And even with Kurama, Madara is still pawning him.Nagato was giving Madara eyes by Madara himself, remove the Madara's eyes and I doubt he's even top 20.Your argument is doesn't hold weight, the Uchiha and Senju fought with there own power , the only powerful Uzumaki we know are fighting with the power of others.

Example - If Madara was alive and fighting Nagato, Madara would still have his Rinnegan, so how could Nagato beat him?


The only rival to the Uchiha Clan will alway Be the Senju Clan.If the Senju clans isn't around, the Uchiha have no rivals

Your spweing Nonsense!
1.We know a little about kushina's abilities
We know she could spam Ninjutsu like Naruto...as said by tsunade!
See,just a few could hold down kurama for two minutes...

2.Your talking about peoples abilities right?
Yep,take away hashi's cells and itachi's eyes....We would see Madara is still below hashi,obito is still below minato,sasuke is Naruto's equal.
3.Its your own argument that doesn't hold,Some of the Uchiha's we see today are spoonfed abilities!
 

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and yet the uzumaki are scattered about most dead the senju close to extinction the uchiha wiped out by their own

The uzumaki dont rival uchiha senju did
 

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Saying the only thing we have seen from Kushina is survival of the kyuubi extraction is fallacious. Although it is true we have only seen her chakra chains, they are enough. Gamabunta placed on 100% kyuubi could barely keep him bounded, while Kushina while she was nearly dead was able to make him move as if he were a doll with barely any chains. Now imagine her at full health using many chains, doubt anyone can fight her while this restricted unless they use genjutsu.

Claiming What-if's to create favorable scenarios on your side can be done as well on the other side regardless of the topic or situation. (e.g. What if Naruto did not have the kyuubi, but had both his parents to not only make him much more intelligent then nearly every other shinobi, but also teach him most of what they know. Naruto with rasengan, FTG, FRS, Seals, summonings, Sage mode, high levels of chakra, and high levels of intelligence over Sasuke or Obito).

Saying Madara fights with his own powers shows how well your reading skills are. Madara received the rinnegan from Hashirama's senju DNA, meaning Hashirama's power. Madara received his EMS from his brother, Izuna Uchiha, not his own power. I would love to see Madara 'pawning' Naruto without Kabuto/Orochimaru's power, not his own, which is eco-tensei, do you really think he could still be fighting after this long? I would love to see Madara or any other Uchiha attempt to hold a bijuu without dying, while Uzumaki's are hypothetically made for that cause.

Uchiha have no rivals? They don't seem to be as strong as they were stated in the beginning. Most of them are fodders except for the few we know (Izuna, Madara, Obito, Itachi, Sasuke, Shisui) the rest are mere fodders or Asuma level at most. What can good eyes do when the user cannot react fast enough to them? If you recalled the lee vs sasuke fight, even when he had the sharingan, if an uchiha's body isn't fast enough, he wont be able to use his eyes tot heir full potential. Itachi took out his entire clan as a teenager, this just shows how easily it could be done by a single person who barely has chakra. Shisui got destroyed by Danzo, and got scared to the point where he ran away, while Sasuke destroyed him without ems. This is just showing you that your beloved clan isn't as strong as you make it seem. Current Uchiha clan (using their own powers) would be Sasuke and Obito. Sasuke with his own power (no itachi eyes) would be blind. Obito with his own power would have two ms and half a face/body. These two would lose to the aburame clan, inidcating what a joke the Uchia's are without others powers. If they don't use their own powers, Sasuke would have EMS (He can see!) and Obito would have a MS+Rinnegan combo. This being said, they still would debatably lose to a Bee+A Combo.

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