[Discussion] Kishi Trolled Naruto

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being honest madara and obito should be finished by now,i mean seriously the SA has mind controllers and shadow users powered by naruto's chakra,that can immobilize the juubi,yet they couldn't stop obito and madara,and those two were able to break free from it immediately due to kishi's undying love for uchiha,that's what i call BS.
i mean seriously last time we saw the alliance,it surrounded the juubi,when its back they were chased away by two guys who were in the offence even being outnumbered.sigh

as for naruto,kishi has always treated him that way,he gets a new power yet he can't do a thing with it because he had to face an oppenent way more stronger than him.
it's kishi's way of writing the manga keeping us waiting for naruto to do something big in this manga.

 

[JCW]

Just because of "kishi is more of an uchiha fan no jutsu", ive watched naruto vs pein full like x8 times now

not saying im mad that thats the last naruto fight i actually enjoy watching but i mean it showed his "im a boss" status

 

[foxyladyland]

wouldn't it be easier to kamui it while they were still there?

that wouldn't be easier because they would stop it like Obito did while he was separated from it..
if he (kakashi) tried to Kamui it while they were there it would be easier for them to stop cause they would see it comingsince kakashi prob wouldn't march up to the juubi on his own

 

[sealingscroll]

being honest madara and obito should be finished by now,i mean seriously the SA has mind controllers and shadow users powered by naruto's chakra,that can immobilize the juubi,yet they couldn't stop obito and madara,and those two were able to break free from it immediately due to kishi's undying love for uchiha,that's what i call BS.
i mean seriously last time we saw the alliance,it surrounded the juubi,when its back they were chased away by two guys who were in the offence even being outnumbered.sigh

as for naruto,kishi has always treated him that way,he gets a new power yet he can't do a thing with it because he had to face an oppenent way more stronger than him.
it's kishi's way of writing the manga keeping us waiting for naruto to do something big in this manga.

even with mind power and shadows with kyuubi cloak they couldn't do jack crap to Edo Madara. he still over powers them. Obito not sure.

but your thinking that Kyuubi cloak shadow and mind can take the juubi down or stop it. Juubi even probably over powers Madara himself to where he can barely control it. he had to actually get serious after he sensed hashi.

but thats my opinion.

 

[rollin]

Kishi wanted to make a main character where he wasn't that cool or has to work to be strong
Most mangas have a badass character who is cool and all that bullshit
Kishi didn't want one like that and that's the reason why I like naruto

 

[Hori]

being honest madara and obito should be finished by now,i mean seriously the SA has mind controllers and shadow users powered by naruto's chakra,that can immobilize the juubi,yet they couldn't stop obito and madara,and those two were able to break free from it immediately due to kishi's undying love for uchiha,that's what i call BS.
i mean seriously last time we saw the alliance,it surrounded the juubi,when its back they were chased away by two guys who were in the offence even being outnumbered.sigh

as for naruto,kishi has always treated him that way,he gets a new power yet he can't do a thing with it because he had to face an oppenent way more stronger than him.
it's kishi's way of writing the manga keeping us waiting for naruto to do something big in this manga.

I think Naruto doing something big is this time I don't see any other time then this war

that wouldn't be easier because they would stop it like Obito did while he was separated from it..
if he (kakashi) tried to Kamui it while they were there it would be easier for them to stop cause they would see it comingsince kakashi prob wouldn't march up to the juubi on his own

Now I see well explained

 

[Hori]

Kishi wanted to make a main character where he wasn't that cool or has to work to be strong
Most mangas have a badass character who is cool and all that bullshit
Kishi didn't want one like that and that's the reason why I like naruto

I see, so you like an uncool, pea brained main character who was the loser growing up... and still dimwitted and can't make logic decisions?

 

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even with mind power and shadows with kyuubi cloak they couldn't do jack crap to Edo Madara. he still over powers them. Obito not sure.

but your thinking that Kyuubi cloak shadow and mind can take the juubi down or stop it. Juubi even probably over powers Madara himself to where he can barely control it. he had to actually get serious after he sensed hashi.

but thats my opinion.

the shadow users already immobilized juubi for more than minute,i don't think madara can have more power than juubi,in a minute they can take over madara's body with mind readers and kill him then seal him,i don't think that would be really hard.also kishimoto never gave an explanation why obito and madara were able to break out of it so easily,especially now the SA is powered by kurama's chakra.

I think Naruto doing something big is this time I don't see any other time then this war

naruto has done nothing big in this war,he killed some zetsus,some edos,yet the big bosses he couldn't even land a proper hit on any of them.

 

[Hori]

naruto has done nothing big in this war,he killed some zetsus,some edos,yet the big bosses he couldn't even land a proper hit on any of them.

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You agree with me... he must defeat Madara, Obito and Juubi inorder to stop all this

 

[6PathsofKami]

Well if you had payed attention to the latest chapter you would know that Naruto wants his friends and allies there with him, when he's by himself its painful. You could say he is being selfish instead.

 

[sealingscroll]

its been pointed out Several times.

if anyone can outpower the user/attacker then its gone its just like genjutsu in a way, over power your enemy, or have someone touch you.

but like i was saying is though even with their minimal output of chakra even at their limit before the kurama chakra cloak. it still wouldnt be enough. to hold them longer then that. and i might just add that the juubi just got almost fully back operational.

just gotta think out of the box. i guess

 

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You agree with me... he must defeat Madara, Obito and Juubi inorder to stop all this

all of them is an impossible mission,judging from the events kakashi will handle obito and if he gets killed minato will do that.
madara will be stopped only by hashirama,none of the others can compete with these two and if someone will interfere he'll get killed in crossfire.
what's left: the juubi,which i hope kishi won't make sasuke finish it with amaterasu(we saw kakashi trying kamui which is ridiculous,and that was a hint amaterasu can work on it),since it would be the end of the last bit of respect the fans held to this series.

 

[Hori]

Well if you had payed attention to the latest chapter you would know that Naruto wants his friends and allies there with him, when he's by himself its painful. You could say he is being selfish instead.

Nope, doing the same thing he did with Sakura

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[Hori]

all of them is an impossible mission,judging from the events kakashi will handle obito and if he gets killed minato will do that.
madara will be stopped only by hashirama,none of the others can compete with these two and if someone will interfere he'll get killed in crossfire.
what's left: the juubi,which i hope kishi won't make sasuke finish it with amaterasu(we saw kakashi trying kamui which is ridiculous,and that was a hint amaterasu can work on it),since it would be the end of the last bit of respect the fans held to this series.

lol I wonder what would happen if Madara was Amaterasu'ed by Sasuke

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I guess he will use maybe almighty push

 

[Xlad]

Seriosly guys although Naruto is the main character what he was doing in the latest chapter is very stupid... why won't he tell the Allied Shinobi to get away because they are a burdern to him now.. now He has to protect them instead of fighting.

He is doing the same thing when he fought that guy who transformed into Kabuto and whom beated Naruto because of Sakura and that Guy frequently telling him that Sakura is a burden.. Why is Kishi doing this to naruto?

If Naruto Is fighting like they did before with Bee, Kakashi and Guy I think they would had defeated both Obito and Madara... Also the painful thing that naruto can give chakra away.. its another way of making Naruto useless because now he wont deliver a finishing blow or spam a nice jutsu but the people who take chakra from him can do more OP jutsus its just not what Naruto should be, Main characters should be cool ya know just like how Luffy is from One Piece, Ichigo from and Natsu Dragneel from fairy tail you can actually see that they are cool sometimes..

Actually in the whole manga of naruto I've seen him being cool 2 times..

1. When he defeated Neji in chuunins exams
2. And when fighting Pain

Naruto seriously need coolness and much more being a main character

So what do you say guys

I concur with the fact that Naruto should show some more badass shit. It's actually badass to see Naruto fight like how he did against Edo Jins, Nagato, Chunins Exams, Chapter 598. Kishi does nerf Naruto in a sense that he isn't utilzing his powers to fight in the offensive right like the fights I mentioned.

However, I also understand why Naruto did tell the Shinobi Alliance to back off. I think it's because of what happened here.
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[Itachi75]

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[rollin]

I see, so you like an uncool, pea brained main character who was the loser growing up... and still dimwitted and can't make logic decisions?

No I like an uncool character who gradually turns into a cool,smart,and strong character instead of the usual cliche main characters in most mangas

 

[Xlad]

No I like an uncool character who gradually turns into a cool,smart,and strong character instead of the usual cliche main characters in most mangas

A "Took a level in Badass" type, you say? :yeah:

 

[Hori]

I concur with the fact that Naruto should show some more badass shit. It's actually badass to see Naruto fight like how he did against Edo Jins, Nagato, Chunins Exams, Chapter 598. Kishi does nerf Naruto in a sense that he isn't utilzing his powers to fight in the offensive right like the fights I mentioned.

However, I also understand why Naruto did tell the Shinobi Alliance to back off. I think it's because of what happened here.
Itachi and Naruto:

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well if go with that logic that is why but now its not the time for that

 

[Hori]

No I like an uncool character who gradually turns into a cool,smart,and strong character instead of the usual cliche main characters in most mangas

Naruto is still uncool but famous... that's bad writing for kishi

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