[Discussion] M_M Takeover {The Racism Is Real}

[Chibiusa]

its not ok but its not like it isnt provoked
its not like the people being discriminated against dont deserve it

So every muslim deserves to be called a terrorist? All jews deserve to get picked on because of whatever ****ing reason ppl don't like jews? Every asians deserve to be called a chink? Every black person deserves to get discriminated against and shot in cold blood for looking suspicious? All mexicans deserve to get discriminated against and denied healthcare or etc because ppl don't think they belong in this country?

Your logic fails. How can you say it's not like they don't deserve it. No human on this planet deserves to be discriminated against in a negative way. There's nothing wrong with a stereotype joke but this is different.

It's all about the ENVIRONMENT someone is raised in. Not their skin color.

 

[hixa kuogame]

Okay fine, im seeing your points but racism good reason or not isnt okay. And can we not make this about black people,you seem to pop up when you hear african americans.

its not okay regardless of the situation
and im not trying to make it about black ppl

that is still an irrational way to perceive someone when assuming based off of image.
music is an act like films, acting as a racist is as powerful almost as powerful almost as music about hating another race

its irrational to generalize yes

Crime rates are higher in poverty stricken areas. It just so happens that a lot of the minority (in the U.S at least) live in those areas. The environment one grows up in does have an affect on their choices in life.

doesnt mean that they always have to be influenced by their enviroment

 

[l Forgotten l]

every race is known for murders, all humans are the same, All make the same mistakes, all generalizations are made off of irrational assumptions. It is easy but stupid to do.

I agree with this statement.

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[foxyladyland]

every race is known for murders, all humans are the same, All make the same mistakes, all generalizations are made off of irrational assumptions. It is easy but stupid to do.

unfortunately that is very true to the real world... its also a bit into religious beliefs because of human behavior and words..
people assume things without giving the other thought a chance, and questioning almost everything.

 

[Chibiusa]

Ok, now to give my response for this thread :bouncy:

Racism will probably always exist but each generation is progressively getting better. People should just stop making a big deal about it. We need to get rid of anything that makes race tangible. Like the NAACP and other such programs. But really, ppl need to stop being so sensitive about it all. Just ignore the racists. In the end, they're the ones who look dumb for having that mentality

 

[Doctor G]

its not okay regardless of the situation
and im not trying to make it about black ppl

its irrational to generalize yes



doesnt mean that they always have to be influenced by their enviroment

You're right, there are many instances where people break their shackles and refuse to give in to their environment. However, every human being deals with their problems differently. Its easy to say things when the other side is faceless however.

 

[hixa kuogame]

every race is known for murders, all humans are the same, All make the same mistakes, all generalizations are made off of irrational assumptions. It is easy but stupid to do.

some races are known to be malicious more than others though
it is easy to give into generalization and personal preferences thats why racism is so common

So every muslim deserves to be called a terrorist? All jews deserve to get picked on because of whatever ****ing reason ppl don't like jews? Every asians deserve to be called a chink? Every black person deserves to get discriminated against and shot in cold blood for looking suspicious? All mexicans deserve to get discriminated against and denied healthcare or etc because ppl don't think they belong in this country?

Your logic fails. How can you say it's not like they don't deserve it. No human on this planet deserves to be discriminated against in a negative way. There's nothing wrong with a stereotype joke but this is different.

It's all about the ENVIRONMENT someone is raised in. Not their skin color.

im not saying its a good reason im just saying that theres a legit reason to generalize based off of perceptions
and sometimes people wonder why they are discriminated against yet the reasons are boldly in their face
is why i say discrimination can be provoked and lead to generalization
and you dont have to be influence by your enviroment
just because you live in a bad nieghborhood doesnt mean you need to be bad yourself

You're right, there are many instances where people break their shackles and refuse to give in to their environment. However, every human being deals with their problems differently. Its easy to say things when the other side is faceless however.

yes i agree

 

[Chibiusa]

im not saying its a good reason im just saying that theres a legit reason to generalize based off of perceptions
and sometimes people wonder why they are discriminated against yet the reasons are boldly in their face
is why i say discrimination can be provoked and lead to generalization
and you dont have to be influence by your enviroment
just because you live in a bad nieghborhood doesnt mean you need to be bad yourself

Okay, I've taken enough developmental psychology classes to tell you that you're wrong. Environment plays a big role in molding someone's being. You say just because you live in a bad neighborhood doesn't mean you have to be that way but developmentally speaking, some ppl can't help it. How can you stop a child from seeing the things around him? White, black, hispanic, it doesn't matter. A bad neighborhood has the potential to breed crime and violence. It's not as simple as you think.

 

[foxyladyland]

its not okay regardless of the situation
and im not trying to make it about black ppl
its irrational to generalize yesdoesnt mean that they always have to be influenced by their enviroment

agreement

The worst thing to ever happen to earth is human beings to our knowledge.
They, we, lose sight of whats right in front of us to give in to what directly in the forefront.

Colors are never a tool to be used when judging someone.. People should really learn that
over being influenced by the same methods that ruin lives which turns into a neverending cycle of hatred.

 

[hixa kuogame]

Okay, I've taken enough developmental psychology classes to tell you that you're wrong. Environment plays a big role in molding someone's being. You say just because you live in a bad neighborhood doesn't mean you have to be that way but developmentally speaking, some ppl can't help it. How can you stop a child from seeing the things around him? White, black, hispanic, it doesn't matter. A bad neighborhood has the potential to breed crime and violence. It's not as simple as you think.

its not as complicated as you make it out either
enviroment does play a very large role but natural human morals can depict right and wrongs
its up to the person to choose majority of the time the the person would give in to wrong because of their enviroment

 

[Forest]

some races are known to be malicious more than others though
it is easy to give into generalization and personal preferences thats why racism is so common


im not saying its a good reason im just saying that theres a legit reason to generalize based off of perceptions
and sometimes people wonder why they are discriminated against yet the reasons are boldly in their face
is why i say discrimination can be provoked and lead to generalization
and you dont have to be influence by your enviroment
just because you live in a bad nieghborhood doesnt mean you need to be bad yourself

Saying that some races are known to be more malicious than others is opinionated. You can't speak for a whole planet. You don't know a whole race.

 

[hixa kuogame]

agreement

The worst thing to ever happen to earth is human beings to our knowledge.
They, we, lose sight of whats right in front of us to give in to what directly in the forefront.

Colors are never a tool to be used when judging someone.. People should really learn that
over being influenced by the same methods that ruin lives which turns into a neverending cycle of hatred.

spoken like a true philosopher U_U

 

[Kung Fro]

Stereo types have, and will always exist.

 

[Doctor G]

Okay, I've taken enough developmental psychology classes to tell you that you're wrong. Environment plays a big role in molding someone's being. You say just because you live in a bad neighborhood doesn't mean you have to be that way but developmentally speaking, some ppl can't help it. How can you stop a child from seeing the things around him? White, black, hispanic, it doesn't matter. A bad neighborhood has the potential to breed crime and violence. It's not as simple as you think.

I was going to bring up psychology as well but its been a while since I've taken it xD

Anyways, here's a music video related (sort of) to this topic. Be warned, you might not be a fan of this music genre. The lyrics are whats important.

Spoiler

 

[hixa kuogame]

Saying that some races are known to be more malicious than others is opinionated. You can't speak for a whole planet. You don't know a whole race. You can't say that in an argument it sounds silly dude.

well i didnt mean malicious because your right in that context im meant murderous i just didnt wanna say it
because races are proven to have more murder rates than others

 

[vandell]

I'm glad somebody said it, yep the world is screw up because of Ethnicity and Religion, who cares what color your skin is and what language you speak and what religion you are. I really believe that if we did not have religion or race, black white asian, dumb names to separate us, i'm not say you shouldn't be proud of your race and heritage but you should be way more proud to be part of the human race then any other race. think about it how many people do you really know that don't share the same religion or skin color. I stay in chicago,Illinois and the whole city is divided in race and religion, one side of the city is 85 black southside and 85 northside white,85 west side latinos and so on. If there was no race but the human race this problem would not exist in my city like this. I'm sorry but i really do think that all religion is a human problem and should be banned from being spoken in public place or just in public. I don't care who you worship just do it at home and don't tell anyone about it but your family. som many wars have been start over religion that I don't see how anyone else don't think the devil create religion. No i'm not an atheist I do believe that their is a Creator Of Heaven and EARTH and his SOn, I believe that their names are Yahuwah & Yahushua, Yahuwah is are heavenly Father and Yahushua his Son, its hebrew the language all religion start from. one of the reason all religion seems wrong to me is that they don't tell the people that worship the religion to study the history of their religion or religion it self which makes everyone in it a slave and they don't even know it. knowledge is power and your religion don't want you to have any of the power. The letter J is only 500 years old the earth is billions of years old so please don't say anything about jesus who's name is hosea in spanish lol, Hosea 4-6 - my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. "Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children. Just google Yahuwah & Yahushua and stop being a slave and free your mind, stop letting people give you a cult religion and study religion for yourself, where did it come from, what language was it start in, how did it get so divided, is the devil behind all religions study and find out need some help send me a msg, sorry to anyone i offend it with this post, this is not about hate but how to stop the hate in the world

 

[Chibiusa]

its not as complicated as you make it out either
enviroment does play a very large role but natural human morals can depict right and wrongs
its up to the person to choose majority of the time the the person would give in to wrong because of their enviroment

You have really strong opinions that you like to pass off as fact. I'm ending our discussion here. Scientific evidence proves you wrong about this. Have you ever studied anything about this? Morality is developed over time. A child does not know right from wrong, at least not in a moral aspect. All a child knows it what he sees. It's far too complicated for me fully explain to you human morality and child development but if you really want to know I can go find my notes and VM some info to you.

 

[foxyladyland]

Saying that some races are known to be more malicious than others is opinionated. You can't speak for a whole planet. You don't know a whole race.

that is true that even a riot from a particular race isn't enough to assume that the whole race is more violent
or would even riot at any moment in their lives.

spoken like a true philosopher U_U

thanks! do ya mean it?

 

[Forest]

well i didnt mean malicious because your right in that context im meant murderous i just didnt wanna say it
because races are proven to have more murder rates than others

Okay yeah thats where I think the whole environment/ Psychological argument comes into play. Most murders and crime in general that happen come from lower income stature people, regardless of race. Most blacks in the USA are of lower Income, so I guess that is where the correlation comes from. I think thats the bigger picture. but if you are saying that is where the bad connotation comes from, it is certainly possible, stupid as it is lol.

 

[hixa kuogame]

You have really strong opinions that you like to pass off as fact. I'm ending our discussion here. Scientific evidence proves you wrong about this. Have you ever studied anything about this? Morality is developed over time. A child does not know right from wrong, at least not in a moral aspect. All a child knows it what he sees. It's far too complicated for me fully explain to you human morality and child development but if you really want to know I can go find my notes and VM some info to you.

So what it seems like your saying is that a child wouldn't naturally see murder as something wrong?

Okay yeah thats where I think the whole environment/ Psychological argument comes into play. Most murders and crime in general that happen come from lower income stature people, regardless of race. Most blacks in the USA are of lower Income, so I guess that is where the correlation comes from. I think thats the bigger picture. but if you are saying that is where the bad connotation comes from, it is certainly possible, stupid as it is lol.

Yeah I agree with what you say

thanks! do ya mean it?

yes ofcoarse I do