Sasuke VS Jiraiya

Sasuke VS Jiraiya

  • Sasuke

    Votes: 19 70.4%
  • Jiraiya

    Votes: 8 29.6%

  • Total voters
    27
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Brooks

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Clones are useless do to the EMS being able to see Clones....Sasuke won't even attack the Juraiya clone....instead, he waits for Jiraiya to attack since he thinks he fooled Sasuke with the Clone.....Clones would be Jiraiya's own downfall if he uses them against EMS Sasuke.

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Sasuke wins low-mid diff, he has too many one shotters that J-man can't dodge such as Susano'o arrow,Amaterasu and Enton Magatama.

fail!! Jman isn't getting one-shot. It goes against his character as he enters every situation with precaution and usually counters.
 

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Clones are useless do to the EMS being able to see Clones....Sasuke won't even attack the Juraiya clone....instead, he waits for Jiraiya to attack since he thinks he fooled Sasuke with the Clone.....Clones would be Jiraiya's own downfall if he uses them against EMS Sasuke.

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Madara's statement holds no weight, as the 1st Hokage fooled him with a clone in the end.
 

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I've explained this already -_-

Clones are useless against EMS.

P.s: Holyshit! Look at the poll. -_-
 

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Clones are useless against EMS.

P.s: Holyshit! Look at the poll. -_-

surprised it's that close??

I'll disagree, as I haven't seen it having NO effect of EMS. Nonetheless, Sasuke knowing it is a clone doesn't mean he wouldn't shot an arrow, as his arrogance will go against it.


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Madara's statement holds no weight, as the 1st Hokage fooled him with a clone in the end.

Huh

I see that you don't read the Manga.....Madara's EMS wasn't even actived at that time.



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Sharingan, let alone EMS was not activated at that point.

it doesn't say EMS specifically neither. Sharingan users (Itachi and Sasuke) have attacked clones in their fights, whether they were able to see through that debatable. In the end they both processed with the attack, Sasuke would act.

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Madara's EMS can see through clones, as stated by himself and showed when identifying Naruto's. It was a long and exhausting fight after all, both Hashirama and Madara being barely able to stand, former having his Dojutsu switched off and lunging out for the last strike with his scythe and being fooled by Hashirama's Bunshin at the end. It would make no sense to tell he could see through Hashiramas clone with his eye techniques, if he couldn't really do it.
 

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While his EMS wasn't active. His statement holds weight.

It does not. Sasuke is not Madara.

Jiraiya still loses, but don't make up feats for Sasuke. His Sharingan mastery is nowhere near Madara's.
 

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It does not. Sasuke is not Madara.

Jiraiya still loses, but don't make up feats for Sasuke. His Sharingan mastery is nowhere near Madara's.

What a preposteropus argument. What's next? Sasuke's 3T is inferior to Itachi and Madara? When has it ever been implied that Sharingan's detection abilities are different for true Uchihas? Show me a page, right now. Or stop making such claims.
 
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What a preposteropus argument. What's next? Sasuke's 3T is inferior to Itachi and Madara? When has it ever been implied that Sharingan's detection abilities are different for true Uchihas? Show me a page, right now. Or stop making such claims.

Are you implying any 3T fodder Uchiha's sharingan is as strong as Itachi's or Madara's?

Damn ****ing straight not every Sharingan is the same. Every Sharingan has different abilities, clearly seen in the difference of Sharingan usage between Sasuke, Itachi, Obito and Madara.

Hell, Madara had his EMS for years, Sasuke has had it for a few days/weeks. What's next, will you pull a '' Sasuke can use Perfect Susanoo '' out of your arse?

What a preposteropus argument.

Next time you make an attempt at appearing educated, make sure you get the grammar right.

It's '' preposterous ''.
 
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Oh dear. No, every 3T Sharingan for an Uchiha provides the same abilities in regards to chakra and move detection. As I said earlier, show me a page for this argument of yours.

FYI, spelling is not even remotely related to Grammatical/ syntacial rules of the language. Think twice before making such claims.
 

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Oh dear. No, every 3T Sharingan for an Uchiha provides the same abilities in regards to chakra and move detection. As I said earlier, show me a page for this argument of yours.

FYI, spelling is not even remotely related to Grammatical/ syntacial rules of the language. Think twice before making such claims.

In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules that governs the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language.

Took me 20 seconds to prove you wrong.

Also,

Syntactic*

Oh dear. No, every 3T Sharingan for an Uchiha provides the same abilities in regards to chakra and move detection.

Proof?
 

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^ Spelling has nothing to do with grammar. The 'words' you are talking about do not imply spelling on any front. Also, please, do you think I am concerned about spelling here? Herwer, correctct a frew maore.

Yes, proof. Otherwise, you are spreading false information, as usual. No page in the entire manga supports your logic, other than Kakashi displaying below-decent detection abilities.

P.s: Linguistics is the scientific study of language. It includes language form, language meaning, and language in context. Again, what the hell are you talking about? How does that prove your point that spelling is somehow a part of grammar? In fact even Phonetics that make the sounds of the words, have little or nothing to do with spelling. 20 secs indeed.

Stay on topic, or at least stop posting this nonsense. No offense intended.
 

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^ Spelling has nothing to do with grammar. The 'words' you are talking about do not imply spelling on any front. Also, please, do you think I am concerned about spelling here? Herwer, correctct a frew maore.

usage books and style guides that call themselves grammars may also refer to spelling and punctuation.

Spelling might not make an argument, but lack of good english makes you appear silly and uneducated, especially when you are using grand words like '' preposterous '' and you are spelling it badly.

you are spreading false information, as usual.

Ad hominem.

No page in the entire manga supports your logic, other than Kakashi displaying below-decent detection abilities.

Gratz you just gave me proof.

No offense intended.

Offence*


As stated by Zetsu, the Sharingan is as a shinobi tool. A powerful one, but, alas, still a tool. Its usefulness depends on its user. If you honestly come saying Fodderashi Uchihas's 3T Sharingan is as strong as Madara's 3T sharingan well..

You're simply dumb.

Jutsus aren't equal. Naruto's Rasengan doesn't equal Jiraiya's, just as Sasuke's Chidori doesn't equal Kakashi's.
 

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Stop making yourself look like a complete and utter fop. You think I don't know what I am talking about? You want to go there? All of your so-called nicely formed sentences are grammartically incorrect. The Irony. And last I checked, posting comes with a spell check option. Oh dear, what an accomplishment on your part. The kid corrects typos here. Heck, even firefox does. Lulz

Oh no. Kakashi cannot reach that level, as he's not an uchiha. Now contunie on with your lame-ass scrutinization. LMFAO @ Your half-hearted and largely backward endeavours.

Nice use of Ad hominem. Another thing that makes little sense, like the rest of your arguments.
 
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Stop making yourself look like a complete and utter fop. You think I don't know what I am talking about? You want to go there? All of your so-called nicely formed sentences are grammartically incorrect. The Irony. And last I checked, posting comes with a spell check option. Oh dear, what an accomplishment on your part. The kid corrects typos here. Heck, even firefox does. Lulz

Oh no. Kakashi cannot reach that level, as he's not an uchiha. Now contunie on with your lame-ass scrutinization. LMFAO @ Your half-hearted and largely backward endeavours.

Nice use of Ad hominem. Another thing that makes little sense, like the rest of your arguments.

Fop? That's badly used here. You seem upset.

Also,

grammatically*
continue*

And no, Kakashi's Sharingan should, by your logic, work as well as any other. It just drains his chakra faster.
 

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^ Lulz Not a very good back-paddling on the whole Linguistics front. Bogus, don't you think? Nah, it just means a fool or a foolish person. Kinda old-fashioned.

No, it makes a load of difference. kakashi is a non-uchiha, and hence lacks the blood for optimum efficiency of the Ocular powers. That's why he hasn't displayed the peak of Sharingan. The guy's Sharingan, is half-assed.

P.s: Upset, over you? Don't flatter yourself man. You are not that important. I am laughing my ass off at your clerk-ish corrections though. Good job.
 
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