Bijuu Naruto/Perfect Susanoo

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this thread is full of shit for a lack of better words


madara>Naruto


no debateing

 

[KidGamer65]

Isn't the 9 tails already mountain level? And what about the larger biju dama?

When it has all its chakra, but not BM Naruto.

Madara can interrupt its charging time via Sword Slashes.

 

[Turson]

^ Which means the other scenario I put forth applies?

What? Plot no Jutsu? Naah. Madara just didnt put as much energy into that attack as Naruto did. That was just quick, random TBB.

 

[shelke]

^ Oh come on. Albeit completely correct, I was talking about Slashes interrupting the TBB as they are much faster and appear to be quite devastating.

 

[Turson]

^ Oh come on. Albeit completely correct, I was talking about Slashes interrupting the TBB as they are much faster and appear to be quite devastating.

Yeah, but then again Naruto could use his chakra arms/tails to grab PS arms and legs, to prevent it from slashing. Kurama has way more limbs that PS, which could be very handy in battle betweem two behemoths like them.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yeah, but then again Naruto could use his chakra arms/tails to grab PS arms and legs, to prevent it from slashing. Kurama has way more limbs that PS, which could be very handy in battle betweem two behemoths like them.

Dude. Swords. Swords are handy!!!

 

[Turson]

Dude. Swords. Swords are handy!!!

Not if you cant use them.

 

[The Work]

Hmmm interesting sir

Good Job

 

[shelke]

@Turson PS seems pretty strong to not succumb to tails that easily.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Not if you cant use them.

Oh but u can. And u can reach pretty far.
I already explained it to u. PS is made of denser literally armour solid chakra and will be stronger then chakra cloak or even kurama itself

 

[Turson]

@Turson PS seems pretty strong to not succumb to tails that easily.

I know that it wouldnt be easy. But still... Naruto needed one tail to subdue other tailed beast. Thats quite impressive, if you ask me. Against PS he could use all of them. Considering that BM Naruto with Kuramas whole chakra would be twice as big and strong, he would have quite of a chance.

Oh but u can. And u can reach pretty far.
I already explained it to u. PS is made of denser literally armour solid chakra and will be stronger then chakra cloak or even kurama itself

Considering that Naruto tanked Juubis blast hes quite solid himself.

 

[Draphsin]

Actually take the time to read this before making a comment!!!!

If current Bijuu Mode Naruto were to fight Madara's Perfect Susanoo, this is how the fight would go.

For starters, fans often make the argument that Bijuu Mode can't stand up to a Perfect Susanoo Sword Slash.

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But take a quick look at this.

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If Bijuu Mode Naruto could stand up to the Ten-tails' bijuu bomb and receive only minimum damage, that I'm pretty sure he could most certainly tank a Perfect Susanoo slash.

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But at the same time Perfect Susanoo can already tank a Bijuu bomb at point blank range.

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This fight would then be dragged on with neither side seriously damaging one another. But the victory would still go to Madara because Naruto's greatest downfall would be his time limit and the fact that Perfect Susanoo dwarfs Bijuu Mode by leaps and bounds.

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So the only way I can see Naruto reaching the size of Perfect Susanoo is by gaining the Yin half of the Kyuubi's chakra.

And in chapter 628, we see Naruto revert back into Kyuubi Chakra Mode due to lending so much chakra to the ninja alliance.

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Kurama even stated that Naruto was going to burn himself out.

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This just goes on to make it more than obvious that Naruto is going to gain the yin half of the Kyuubi's chakra from his father if he is to continue this fight.

Once he does, these four things will happen

1. Kurama's full power restored
2. Naruto's Bijuu Mode becoming 2x more powerful
3. Naruto's Time limit in Bijuu Mode removed
4. Naruto fully transforming into the fox or his Bijuu Mode cloak just grows in size

Cause remember, when Kurama lost his yin chakra, he shrunk in size.

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So it's only logical to assume that once the fox regains his yin chakra, he's restored to his original size as well.

And there is a lot of evidence from the manga that a full powered Kurama is around the size of Madara's Perfect Susanoo.

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So once Naruto gains the Kyuubi's yin chakra from his father, he should be able to fight on equal footing with Madara's Perfect Susanoo.

Now I know that there are going to be a lot of haters and Madara fanboys over this topic, but what I present here is facts, so please actually take the time to go through all of this before leaving a comment!!!!

Well thought out theory (Thought it was gonna be a VS thread ), completely agree. And you're right about the scale of kurama compared to PS

 

[AlphaScythian]

Considering that Naruto tanked Juubis blast hes quite solid himself.

I think i have a comparison here.
Suigetsu and his water that cant take cutting damage tanked/survived flash TBB at point blank
Naruto and kuramas super chakra tanked TBB at long range And flash bijudama loses power over range.
Now its practically same shit but different scale.
So no naruto isnt solid, neither his chakra, but it has good density and mass that stopped chakra stream of juubi.
But it cannot take cutting power of PS slash, as it provides extremely high pressure at very small "area"

In other words tanking juubi's tbb doesnt mean shit here.
Susanno however survived far more dmg then naruto + kurama.

 

[Turson]

I think i have a comparison here.
Suigetsu and his water that cant take cutting damage tanked/survived flash TBB at point blank
Naruto and kuramas super chakra tanked TBB at long range And flash bijudama loses power over range.
Now its practically same shit but different scale.
So no naruto isnt solid, neither his chakra, but it has good density and mass that stopped chakra stream of juubi.
But it cannot take cutting power of PS slash, as it provides extremely high pressure at very small "area"

In other words tanking juubi's tbb doesnt mean shit here.
Susanno however survived far more dmg then naruto + kurama.

You are forgetting one thing: KM4 Naruto chakra shroud stopped Kusanagi sword, which surprised Orochimaru.

 

[shelke]

@Turson Rather a theoretical scenario, don't you think? As Naruto resorted to retort with a TBB for the combined TBB of 5 tailed beasts, when simple chakra restraint should have done the job. It means, it isn't as versatile a as you believe it to be.

 

[Turson]

@Turson Rather a theoretical scenario, don't you think? As Naruto resorted to retort with a TBB for the combined TBB of 5 tailed beasts, when simple chakra restraint should have done the job. It means, it isn't as versatile a as you believe it to be.

Fact is: he DID subdue them.

 

[BlinkST]

Kurama cannot tank a PS slash.

 

[AlphaScythian]

You are forgetting one thing: KM4 Naruto chakra shroud stopped Kusanagi sword, which surprised Orochimaru.

oh yeah. Hyped sword that wasnt even tested all that much? Is that ur point? Sasuke had some sort of kusanagi too. And even with chidori on, raiton armour easily reflected it.
Chakra beats chakra.

 

[Turson]

oh yeah. Hyped sword that wasnt even tested all that much? Is that ur point? Sasuke had some sort of kusanagi too. And even with chidori on, raiton armour easily reflected it.
Chakra beats chakra.

Yeah, if A tanked Sasukes chakra infused sword (it isnt real Kusanagi), then I see no reason why Naruto wouldnt be able to tank PS slash.

 

[shelke]

^ When did A tank Sasuke's Sword? It was Chidori and Sasuke's fingers went through his armour. Also, Slash prodices actual shock waves that reduced the Mountains to dust. It isn't chakra. How much damaged would the actual sword do? Your guess is as good as mine.