THEORY} MS activation OBITO & KAKASHI proven

[foxyladyland]

Think I give two shites about my rep? Lol I have a life outside of this website, I could give a flying f*ck if I had 11 negative rep bars.

You still haven't answered why you talk like you're mentally impaired. Arn't you like a tranny too? I thought I read that on some thread.

I don't do I? besides you are all like totally into that t word aren't you??
aside from that, what do you mean im one?

Great job foxy, very convincing indeed!

Great theory , i enjoy reading it

thanks like thanks u all

 

[Booker]

I don't do I? besides you are all like totally into that t word aren't you??
aside from that, what do you mean im one?




thanks like thanks u all

Whatever, it's not worth it. Carry on Foxy.

 

[evilmanofdoom]

kakashi was the one who killed rin though so it makes sense if he awakened it first and good job!

 

[Sherlock.]

Nice Theory.... =D =D

 

[Minator93]

I agree that Kakashi awakened the Kamui on his own. After what Tobirama explained and what Obito himself said its clear as a day that Kakashi awakened the Magekyo on his own, however I believe that both awakened it at the same time. This image is more clear

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[ajpn920]

Nice theory but I can't agree with that. Only an Uchiha has the power to change their eyes. What I mean is that only them can awake the power in their eyes.

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Is it a coincidence that both Obito and Kakashi awaken their MS on the same day and on the same time? I don't think so. It was Obito's rage that awaken the MS. It's not logical to say that each eye develops one after another since it's a pair. When one eye awakens MS so as the other that's why we saw them both on the same panel awaken their MS.

 

[Flawž]

Nice theory but I can't agree with that. Only an Uchiha has the power to change their eyes. What I mean is that only them can awake the power in their eyes.

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Is it a coincidence that both Obito and Kakashi awaken their MS on the same day and on the same time? I don't think so. It was Obito's rage that awaken the MS. It's not logical to say that each eye develops one after another since it's a pair. When one eye awakens MS so as the other that's why we saw them both on the same panel awaken their MS.

i agree with this.

 

[- Їиfєяио -]

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GREAT THEORY ​

 

[sthomasf]

What I think happened is that BOTH Obito and Kakashi had the experience a traumatic event and had to awaken the MS together. When Obito was near Kakashi and could view everything from Kakashi's eye, that proves that somehow the two Sharingans were linked. Since the two eyes were linked at the time, one eye couldnt have reached MS without the other eye reaching MS as well.

Its also been said many of times to achieve the true powers of the Sharingan, they have to be together. Since the Eyes were somehow linked at the time, it doesnt make sense for Obito to awaken MS without the Other Eye awakening MS as well. Since a traumatic event awakens the MS, both Obito and Kakashi had to be experiencing it at the same time while both eyes were linked.


Means it isnt so much Obito awakened MS or Kakashi awakened MS. Both of them Awakened MS together.

 

[WhistleBlower]

Very nice read!! I also agree, kakashi got the MS, by himself. In this instance, killing a close nakama. I.E - Rin

 

[foxyladyland]

I agree that Kakashi awakened the Kamui on his own. After what Tobirama explained and what Obito himself said its clear as a day that Kakashi awakened the Magekyo on his own, however I believe that both awakened it at the same time. This image is more clear

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im saying based on the 3rd panel from left to right, the difference could've been a millisecond.even in this pic there is an image of the black pupil still in Obito's eye while Kakashi's has already changed..

Nice theory but I can't agree with that. Only an Uchiha has the power to change their eyes. What I mean is that only them can awake the power in their eyes.

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Is it a coincidence that both Obito and Kakashi awaken their MS on the same day and on the same time? I don't think so. It was Obito's rage that awaken the MS. It's not logical to say that each eye develops one after another since it's a pair. When one eye awakens MS so as the other that's why we saw them both on the same panel awaken their MS.

I pointed this out..However Kakashi was crying at the murder of his friend and that he was the one who did it..
breakin his promise to Obito..in that 3rd panel.it might not be so they automatically open together , but probably.
if you mention the panel, they both develop in the same moment , but with a small difference. 3rd panel.

What I think happened is that BOTH Obito and Kakashi had the experience a traumatic event and had to awaken the MS together. When Obito was near Kakashi and could view everything from Kakashi's eye, that proves that somehow the two Sharingans were linked. Since the two eyes were linked at the time, one eye couldnt have reached MS without the other eye reaching MS as well.
Its also been said many of times to achieve the true powers of the Sharingan, they have to be together. Since the Eyes were somehow linked at the time, it doesnt make sense for Obito to awaken MS without the Other Eye awakening MS as well. Since a traumatic event awakens the MS, both Obito and Kakashi had to be experiencing it at the same time while both eyes were linked.
Means it isnt so much Obito awakened MS or Kakashi awakened MS. Both of them Awakened MS together.

you're misunderstanding.. I pointed out that Zetsu+Obito being in range with Kakashi that moment helped the activation while it was same time it was a small difference ..maybe Zetsu+Obito plus Obito needed to be there and Kakashi's own feelings could develop the MS.. they both developed MS at the same time, but there is shown a separation with the eyes having that small pupil difference in the 3rd panel..

 

[Aertes]

Well thats the point. Kakashi's nerve isnt mutated...

You are aware that mutation can take place in any moment under the some conditions.He had an eye,that as Tobirama explained is affected by feelings (le eye that reflects feelings,in Tobirama's speech).He was under great emotional stress,so that eye that is so vulnerable to emotions,awake another level.It's not that hard.Kakashi's chakra can be affected by emotion's too.Since the eye that can receive such changes is there,the process takes place.Simple.

Via chakra floating in the air. The eye is linked to both, but since obito has the nerve, the blood, the chakra he benefits from the link from eyes not kakashi(at least not yet). Curse Mark

Seriously,chakra flowing in the air?Obito was far away from Kakashi,not to mention that the panels show that the process took place simultaneously.So Obito not only produced enough chakra to affect his eye,but he sent some in the air,and that amount was big enough to change an eye that was far away from him.Not to mention that he did all this in the speed of light cause those two eyes changed the exact same moment.
Oh god,you're so right,things like that happen every day

And sasuke was just punching some rocks and that was his limit. Also his sharingan always drains some chakra, kakashi is never fully charged + constant running from enemy on top of that, well, u got it? right?

Sasuke had only 1 months training.Kakashi said that it took him days to only get his lighting element down.Meaning he had 20-25 days to learn chidori.Kakashi created the jutsu.He has been training to do that for a long time,we only got to see the first time he used it.Can you seriously compare Sasuke's and Kakashi's tolerant level at that point?Kakashi had been using the jutsu for more than a year,he was way more proficient by the age he killed Rin that Sasuke was when he learned the jutsu.And not to mention that Sasuke used more than 2 chidoris(Gaara fight) and he didn't faint of exhaustion right on the spot.
Even in all his fights when he overused his sharingan he never fainted,he was just extremely exhausted to the level that he can't walk.But 1 raikiri and few minutes using sharingan only to see, got him in a situation like that.Yeah,I get it :|

 

[AlphaScythian]

You are aware that mutation can take place in any moment under the some conditions.He had an eye,that as Tobirama explained is affected by feelings (le eye that reflects feelings,in Tobirama's speech).He was under great emotional stress,so that eye that is so vulnerable to emotions,awake another level.It's not that hard.Kakashi's chakra can be affected by emotion's too.Since the eye that can receive such changes is there,the process takes place.Simple.

Regardless. Optic nerve has to mutate and create a complete link from brain to eye in case of awakening/upgrade. that would allow turn on/off sharingan. None of that happened cuz kakashi has no KKG which makes it happen.

Seriously,chakra flowing in the air?Obito was far away from Kakashi,not to mention that the panels show that the process took place simultaneously.So Obito not only produced enough chakra to affect his eye,but he sent some in the air,and that amount was big enough to change an eye that was far away from him.Not to mention that he did all this in the speed of light cause those two eyes changed the exact same moment.
Oh god,you're so right,things like that happen every day

Omg the hell i care how chakra travels in this case. Kishi never explained any of that, but hey nagato was controlling pain with chakra and naruto could see it in the air. Same would be kabuto controlling his edos. In this particular case close distance is a must for image sharing, but link between eyes is long range.

Sasuke had only 1 months training.Kakashi said that it took him days to only get his lighting element down.Meaning he had 20-25 days to learn chidori.Kakashi created the jutsu.He has been training to do that for a long time,we only got to see the first time he used it.Can you seriously compare Sasuke's and Kakashi's tolerant level at that point?Kakashi had been using the jutsu for more than a year,he was way more proficient by the age he killed Rin that Sasuke was when he learned the jutsu.And not to mention that Sasuke used more than 2 chidoris(Gaara fight) and he didn't faint of exhaustion right on the spot.
Even in all his fights when he overused his sharingan he never fainted,he was just extremely exhausted to the level that he can't walk.But 1 raikiri and few minutes using sharingan only to see, got him in a situation like that.Yeah,I get it :|

No u dont. Sasuke can use both MS eyes fairly easy, since get go. kakashi could barely walk, and fainted if used kamui twice.
This is difference in chakra reserves, stamina and lack of KKG, but u choose to ignore that and go by scepticism right?
And dont throw unrelated info and argument here.

 

[Tendou00]

I can only be agree with Foxyladyland-Sama because it's facts.

 

[uduzumaki]

both eyes were connected. when kakashi killed rin ....obito was really closed to RIN. as said when uchita kill some love one it activates EMS. thts why obito's EMS got activated and both eyes where connected kakashi also got EMS.

 

[shelke]

Complete disagreement on three points:

- The eyes acted as a pair as Obito could see through his eye, and hence evolved at the same time.

- Both eyes have the same design, when we have seen that individual users of Sharingan develop their own. Which also signifies their 'pair significance' that one eye reacted to the other in the close vicinity and took on the exact same pattern at the exact same time. The odds of this happening from your perspective are exactly zero.

- Kakashi lacked the body - or the blood - at that time to awaken MS, as he could barely use it for five minutes tops at the start of Naruto some thirteen years later. How would his body simply allow a higher form, when it could barely endure 3T?

Another factor - yes, I know it's a fourth point - is the development of Tomoes. How on earth is Kakashi and Obito's Tomoe count the same, when Kakashi couldn't have possibly been able to use it so extensively considering the aforementioned points? You do realize that you and a lot of other fans simply deny the obvious?

Another point - Kakashi also developed Kamui and his MS eye got sealed, unable to endure the pressure from a higher Doujutsu. Let's face it, it's 'captain obvious' that Kakashi owes his Kamui, MS, and heck, even the damn Sharingan to Obito.

 

[shelke]

I just remembered another point. How on earth did a 'mutation' even occur in the first place in a 'non-Uchiha'? This goes completely against the KG principles implied through out the manga.

 

[Nous]

Well done

 

[Hori]

nice thread Foxy well explained

 

[garas56]

I agree with this theory Both has sufered great emotional stres that unlocked mangekyou