[Spoilers] Madara vs hashirama compared to recent manga fight

6thpathsage

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I was wondering what the base still thought of this fight:


[video=youtube;iFzGNNummXg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFzGNNummXg[/video]

Now the real one has been revealed:

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I would say it looks like a :


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in comparison


Kishi always surpasses expectationS :D * Kishimoto fanboy*
 
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But it's absolute that this time they will go more OP...

If this battle happens, then no other fight in the whole series even in future will surpass this one...
 

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Yeah theres a reason why Kishi made the fight quite short, so this final battle doesnt seem like a repeat.
 

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But it's absolute that this time they will go more OP...

If this battle happens, then no other fight in the whole series even in future will surpass this one...

I agree! hope noone gets in the way of the next one !:bouncy:
 

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I kinda preferred it when it wasn't too OP. It was less a case of raw power and natural ability. True Mokuton would make anyone OP doesn't matter who so that kinda devalues Hashirama as a character and as a shinobi. Mokuton before we knew more about was powerful yes but it didn't seem like a near I win button its become lately, previously it seemed more like Hashirama while gifted with mokuton ability it was his will to succeed and dream combined with earned skills rather than his stupidly powerful bloodline as it has now become that made him strong.

So in a way while the new fights have lots of shiny battles with cool scenes but little in the way of strategy or complexity, I mean from what we saw the battles between Madara and Hashirama it was more like two guys wailing on each other with simple brute strength... I didn't see any "smart" strategies. The only one mildly interesting was how Madara armored the Kyuubi with susanoo. Hashirama didn't even try to analyze it or smartly get around it he just bashed the heck out of it....oh wow great stratagem first Hokage....

Minato by comparison actually seemed to analyses his opponents tactics so I guess that's a tick against his name, even if he is weaker than the rest.
 

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I kinda preferred it when it wasn't too OP. It was less a case of raw power and natural ability. True Mokuton would make anyone OP doesn't matter who so that kinda devalues Hashirama as a character and as a shinobi. Mokuton before we knew more about was powerful yes but it didn't seem like a near I win button its become lately, previously it seemed more like Hashirama while gifted with mokuton ability it was his will to succeed and dream combined with earned skills rather than his stupidly powerful bloodline as it has now become that made him strong.

So in a way while the new fights have lots of shiny battles with cool scenes but little in the way of strategy or complexity, I mean from what we saw the battles between Madara and Hashirama it was more like two guys wailing on each other with simple brute strength... I didn't see any "smart" strategies. The only one mildly interesting was how Madara armored the Kyuubi with susanoo. Hashirama didn't even try to analyze it or smartly get around it he just bashed the heck out of it....oh wow great stratagem first Hokage....

Minato by comparison actually seemed to analyses his opponents tactics so I guess that's a tick against his name, even if he is weaker than the rest.
i undertand how people got the idea that narutoverse ninjas were supposed to be super strategists and stealthy people. i dont think it ever was supposed to be this though. in part one the people that were saying this is how ninjas were supposed to be were incredibly weak compared to ninjas like akatsuki, which were technically around and just as op in part 1. thats why thee ninjas that said this were saying this in the first place, at that level strategy and stealthiness actaully helped. but i think even in part 1 kishi was planning that the manga would become as op and natural talent based as it is. i mean, we all know that naruto whom the manga was named after and has to be the best character in the end, would have never been as stealthy, or smart or as good as strategy as even part 1 kakashior zabuza. in theory, the manga got the way it is today becausethats the only way the main character stood a chance. and kishi was planning that since the beginning. i also want to point out that some characters still use strategy, all nara clan members do, as well as kakashi, and minato as someone pointed out. even ei used strategy against minato when they faught. even if the strategy was based off his brute strength asnd speed he still needed to use his head both to memorize where all the kunai were and to figure out which one minato was going to next.
 
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