Tsunade > Orochimaru: Let Me Tell You Why This Is Bullcrap

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

1. Sasuke did absorb him so I don't know where you got that from.
2. Itachi sealed his snake summon not him.. remember before he was fully sealed a little snake came out and was hit by amaterasu and killed.

it wasn't a summon just a mode Lol

 

[Kurama2012]

i believe the sannin are equal and i dont belive there is enough evidence to say over wise and all three has a good shot at beating the other
and the sannin battle in part 1 shows that they where equal even in a weakened state as jiraiya was drugged, orochimaru wasnt able to use his arms and tsunade for most part of the fight was paralyzed with fear and they all left alive
oh and before orochi fans say it was 2 n 1 i believe kabuto was there

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

i believe the sannin are equal and i dont belive there is enough evidence to say over wise and all three has a good shot at beating the other
and the sannin battle in part 1 shows that they where equal even in a weakened state as jiraiya was drugged, orochimaru wasnt able to use his arms and tsunade for most part of the fight was paralyzed with fear and they all left alive
oh and before orochi fans say it was 2 n 1 i believe kabuto was there

it was 2 vs 4 (Naruto and Shizune were there too)

 

[Draphsin]

I always see people bringing up the whole rock/paper/scissors, snake/slug/frog argument for the reason why Tsunade > Orochimaru. But this is clearly false.

Okay...Kinda baseless, just sayin

For starters, I'd just like to say we've NEVER seen Orochimaru at full power. I'm willing to say at least half. He specializes in Ninjutsu, and his arms and ninjutsu have been taken from him for basically the whole series.

He didnt use his full power against hiruzen? He edo'd 2 senju hokage to fight for him because he knew he couldnt win on his own, he had to use tsunade's grandfather/uncle. The databook even says that oro would've died if hiruzen was 10 years younger

That being said, armless Oro not only fought against Tsunade, but was also fighting JIRAIYA, another legendary sannin, on equal terms at the same time. Armless.

He still had access to his sword of kusanagi and manda and kabuto was helping out.

Imagine if Oro had his ninjutsu? Neither of them would have stood a chance in Hell. The techniques Orochimaru has developed number in the hundreds, and I doubt he'd waste his time creating weak techniques.

Imagine if jiraiya used SM? or if tsunade wasnt weak from inactivity? all 3 either didnt go all out or were handicapped in some way, none of them were in a position to kill the other....

Another argument for Tsunade is that she is too durable for Orochimaru. But guess what? Orochimaru is JUST as durable. If she manages to get a pounding on him, it'll just be Oral Rebirth, change a strategy, and try again.

This doesnt make oro's fight any easier, Lol. If oro cant even get close to tsunade then whats the point in being so durable?

Let's not forget Orochimaru has one of the greatest solo feats of the series leagues ahead of Tsunade; fighting a fully enraged tailed beast (Again, WITHOUT ninjutsu, his whole specialty). Tsunade can't hold a candle to that.

He used ninjutsu to survive death from a 4 tailed naruto.....Minato solod kurama by sealing it. Sure he died but that feat stomps oros.

If you want more amazing solo feats then just look at tsunade's grandfather, he plays with kurama like a puppy...

Fact of the matter is, no matter what Tsunade throws out Orochimaru, he can counter it and best her. Tsunade is good, but she's not Orochimaru good.

Body Pathway Derangement
Chakra Scalpel
Chakra enhanced strength (which can break susanoo)
Slug summoning (to counter manda)

So: Orochimaru > Jiraiya>=Tsunade.

Jiraiya > Oro = Tsunade until proven otherwise

Btw if youre gonna argue for jirayia's case then tell me, how many pein bodies can oro take out? definitely not more than 1, given what we've seen from him...

 

[Kurama2012]

1. Sasuke did absorb him so I don't know where you got that from.
2. Itachi sealed his snake summon not him.. remember before he was fully sealed a little snake came out and was hit by amaterasu and killed.
3. Orochimaru wouldnt even be alive in the first place if it wasnt for Sasuke xD
4. What the hell lmao Tsunade never cracked Madaras Perfect Susanoo... lol
Please read the manga correctly before you post.

err yeah she did so please read the manga

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[ESPADA NELIEL]

How the hell could Tsunade defeat the 4 Tails Naruto if she became a cry baby the moment Kabuto stabbed himself with a kunai.

she feared blood back then, thats all to it...... NOW I highly doubt the 4 tails is on her level.........

 

[Smd]

orochimaru>>Tsunade

Jairya>Tsunade

 

[ESPADA NELIEL]

it wasn't a summon just a mode Lol

this is a troll post, abandon thread..yikes!!!

 

[sulanis]

I Agree with you, Ororchimaru is superior to tsunade in a lot of ways! Especially since he is vastly smarter and more cunning then Tsunade uses brute strength to much and forget that a ninja must "read underneath, the underneath"

 

[ESPADA NELIEL]

orochimaru>>Tsunade

Jairya>Tsunade

Tsunade>>orochimaru, we have seen that edo's aren't at full power
Tsuande>=Jiriaya.right now Byakugou is better than his sage mode if not equal to it......
Jiriaya>>Orochimaru

 

[Rainbow Dash]

And remember, Orochimaru can one shot Tsunade with Fushi Tensei.

 

[Micho22]

First of all when Tsunade fought orochimaru back than she was also handicaped
She had used almost all of her chakra so she started fighting him with very low chakra level read the manga again
Jiraiya was handicaped by tsunades drugs
And orochimaru was handicaped to
So all of them where handicaped in different ways but they where still able to fight on such a high level
Plus point tor all three members
Its difficult to say if tsunade is stronger or just orochimaru
They are all thre equal in terms of knowlede and power
Tsunade mastered rhe same ability regeneration with no handseals like the god of shinobis databook = 35
Orochimaru = Edo Tensei = 35
Jiraiya Sage mode = 35,5

 

[Sennin of Logic]

It could go either way. While it would allow him to survive almost anything, Orochimaru's regeneration seems to take a lot out of his host body (don't hold me to this, it's just what it looks like to me, I could be wrong).

However, I think people overestimate Orochimaru's arms. If his non-snake ninjutsu is better than his snake jutsus, then why has he always primarily used his snake jutsu over his other jutsu even with his arms. :erm: This tells me that either his snake jutsu is better, or he's an idiot who's preference is inferior ninjutsu ( which doesn't suit his personallity).

 

[Redhothabanero]

agreed:scorps:

 

[Vishvak Tatineni]

I always see people bringing up the whole rock/paper/scissors, snake/slug/frog argument for the reason why Tsunade > Orochimaru. But this is clearly false.

For starters, I'd just like to say we've NEVER seen Orochimaru at full power. I'm willing to say at least half. He specializes in Ninjutsu, and his arms and ninjutsu have been taken from him for basically the whole series.

That being said, armless Oro not only fought against Tsunade, but was also fighting JIRAIYA, another legendary sannin, on equal terms at the same time. Armless.

Imagine if Oro had his ninjutsu? Neither of them would have stood a chance in Hell. The techniques Orochimaru has developed number in the hundreds, and I doubt he'd waste his time creating weak techniques.

Another argument for Tsunade is that she is too durable for Orochimaru. But guess what? Orochimaru is JUST as durable. If she manages to get a pounding on him, it'll just be Oral Rebirth, change a strategy, and try again.

Let's not forget Orochimaru has one of the greatest solo feats of the series leagues ahead of Tsunade; fighting a fully enraged tailed beast (Again, WITHOUT ninjutsu, his whole specialty). Tsunade can't hold a candle to that.

Fact of the matter is, no matter what Tsunade throws out Orochimaru, he can counter it and best her. Tsunade is good, but she's not Orochimaru good.

So: Orochimaru > Jiraiya>=Tsunade.

I totally agree orochimaru has to be stonger than tsunade

but

tsunade is a sannin and that means she must have atleast some ninjutsu right ?

if i'm right the only ninjutsu move she performs is summoining --- i know that she is the more pounding type but she definetly must have some ninjutsu !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lightbringer]

Tsunade Cut in half

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Orochimaru cut in half

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lol Orochimaru wins

 

[Hell Autarch]

I find it really amusing how people say "Jiraiya > Orochimaru"

 

[Hakushi Hayate]

I really do like tsunade, but it is true Oro did alot in the series without his ninjustsu. that's highly impressive jiraya couldn't even handle one tailed naruto. but oro stood his ground against 4 tailed naruto.

And not to mention sasuke only beat oro because of the fact his arms was selled up, And it took him that long just to get on that level with with his arms gone, but all that training and still had a hard time winning, there's no doubt about it that oro is one of the strongest characters.

But then again jiraya did fight all six paths of pain by himself which is also highly impressive. And Tsunade did fight madara with the other kages, but unfortunately they both lost their battles, jiraya was able to kill one of the paths, Tsunade was able to make madara activate his rinnegan and became "Hokage", So in the end they all did something amazing its just that oro did more i suppose.

 

[Red Slayer]

this is a troll post, abandon thread..yikes!!!

OMG It was Hydra Mode, Not Summoning Jutsu :erm::erm:

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I find it really amusing how people say "Jiraiya > Orochimaru"

Glad that you find truth amusing.