2nd hokage vs 2nd mizukage

LORD TAPATIO

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if these two ever met on the battle field who would win?
both kage are amazing water users, but as stated in the manga tobirama senju is king of water element.
2nd hokage is well verse in genjutsu but i belive that the 2nd mizukage takes it in this department
taijutsu i will give to tobirama, he is a senju and it is said that he is phsyically powerful in taijutsu
and the xfactor of course is the 2nd hokages s/t ninjutsu.


so i belive that at tobirama will reign supreme in this battle
 

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I am going with 2nd Mizukage seeing as how we have little information on Tobirama.
 

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true we dont know that much of tobirama, i wish kishi would show us more
 

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2 hokage destroys with ease
 

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Tobirama would win
 

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Man. . . . . . . . . I hate that we don't know much about Tobirama's abilities. :(
 

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Tobirama would win
how will he do that?

as stated in the manga tobirama senju is king of water element.
where? oh right you have to make shit up and give tobirama fanfiction for him to stand a chance

2nd hokage is well verse in genjutsu but
fanfiction

it is said that he is phsyically powerful in taijutsu
breaking a wall with a hand doesnt mean much vs someone made of water
 

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tobiramaq can't do a thing to mizu. mizu kagedon't even need to summon the clan or use joki boy. for nowmizu win.
we haven't see enough fro tobirama.
 

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Tobirama was never stated to be the best water element user. You can link me to where it was stated, will wait.
 

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There's a lot of fanfiction going on around Tobirama...
2nd Mizukage wins neg-diff.
 

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Why make a vs thread on a character we know virtually nothing about?
 

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Mizukage tobirama end up l.ike those shinobi where is the real mizu is that the real clam
 

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Why make a vs thread on a character we know virtually nothing about?
we know plenty. the majority of it is just too uimpressive to believe he was a kage
 

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^^Hehe, I sense a Tobirama hater. We shall see once he gets to the battlefield....
 

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I interpret it as the author affirming the readers that Itachi is stratospheres >>>>> MS Obito.

Itachi possesses immaculate illusory skills, spiritual tools, and an overall fundamentally better skillset, and physical strats. To be specific, his speed is grossly undermined when he could acclimate the features extrapolated below; not to mention the fact that an exorbitant skill degree in casting illusions implicits that this incarnation of Obito, stands absolutely no chance against Itachi, like literally none. The exact reason why this would be case is that illusory abilities are spiritual, the latter can't really ghost phase through them, which is probably why he chronically feared a hypothetical bout with MS Itachi—not to mention the spirit items that he has under his belt, something that's intrinsically linked to his illusory abilities technically — therein, it could be extrapolated that he wouldn't bypass such spiritual items with Kāmui.

Obito consigning Pēin to pillage the Leaf only after Itachi's death (ie., Obito concretely knew that Itachi planned to orchestrate the fight between him, and Sasuke Uchiha, than meet his Maker in that battle simulation like implicited by his back & forth with Sasuke Uchiha in that hideout), and failing to trounce the strongest village on the earth; ie., the Leaf, for straight 18 years implies that there is definitively an entity who pulled the strings beneath the surface area, and that is definitively Itachi Uchiha like exemplified by his inferiority statements, and concrete physical implications. If he was truly stronger than Itachi, then he wouldn't have needed to wait it out for such a long ass time. On the flip-side however — the latter not actively exchanging in an extended bout with the former can be rationalized as him not feeling like doin' it—as the author consistently alludes to the fact that Itachi didn't like fighting, and that he was an innate pacifist who got traumatized by the cycle of warfare that was rampant on earth from the time that he was a little child.

This doesn't apply to Obito; however, as he had every intention to make the Gedø Mazóu eat the Jinchūūriki Chakras to transfigurate a Watered Down Jūūbi like exemplified in the War Arc.

Itachi has a near infinite ways to kill MS Obito.
  • HQ 80,000 Fourth World War Shinobi Alliance Acolytes' Puppet Mind Controlling Exorbitant Illusory Skills
  • The Sword Of Totsuka + Mirror Of Yata
  • Explosive Tricky Chakra Bunshins; that not even Elite Dójūtsu Applicants like 3T Kakashi couldn't perceptively penetrate.
  • MS Techniques like Tsókóyomi and Amaterasu (which cannonically exterminated him from the scene — ie., required a most powerful illusory spell like Izānagi to bypass — striking the fact that Itachi himself utilizing that ability would be stratospheres more powerful by virtue of the whole "An Experienced Castor >>>>> A Novice" line of logicality.
  • Magnificent Immaculate Speed Features that exceeds anything Jūūbi Jinchūuriki Obito has accomplished in this series, let alone MS Obito.
  • Supplementally — a key fact that is often overlooked is that Obito can only spiritualize the part of his body that is preconceived to be stricken with an offensive attack — IE., he can't warp the entire physique if he wants to acclimate offensive damage on the enemy which implies that Itachi can twirl kunais and shurikens in his blind spots to to take him off-guard like he accomplished against a Quasi Prime ET Nagato; whom Obito admitted inferiority to—on 2 different occasions.
Even characters like Hashirama are susceptible to such supplemental damage — Therein; arguably, Obito doesn't fare any better in this battle simulation hypothetically.
 
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