Obito is arguably the most powerful living Ninja currently.

[AlphaScythian]

Did you forget naruto can go from BM to KM to SM instantly?

Surely not instantly. and SM not gonna save naruto lol

 

[MickNerks]

Surely not instantly. and SM not gonna save naruto lol

Yes it is instantly:


Naruto INSTANTLY ENTERING KYUUBI MODE

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Naruto INSTANTLY ENTERING SAGE MODE

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Naruto INSTANTLY ENTERING BIJUU MODE

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It will give kurama time to gather more chakra

 

[Obito3631]

Obito is way stronger than Hashi and Madara,,

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

Obito might be, Naruto is close and so is Sasuke

 

[projecttsukinome]

Obito is way stronger than Hashi and Madara,,

agree with u

 

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto INSTANTLY ENTERING SAGE MODE

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It will give kurama time to gather more chakra

Instantly my ass.
U deny the fact naruto has to sit down and concentrate to enter sage mode. He is a siting duck then

While naruto may get sage mode in few seconds its not gonna be fully powered sage mode, meaning it wont last long as he didnt absorb as much chakra as he could.

 

[BladerItachi]

People say Obito is alive and kicking LMAO
DO they understand that NAruto had to fight so many enemies (Zetsus, Raikage, Nagato, Itachi, Muu) before getting to Obito the main boss... Even the jinchuuriki's he had to do most of the work alone so yeah, consider that and Naruto's stamina is probably on par with Obito... The only difference is Kamui I guess but since Micknerks already stated how Naruto counters it

 

[MickNerks]

Instantly my ass.
U deny the fact naruto has to sit down and concentrate to enter sage mode. He is a siting duck then

While naruto may get sage mode in few seconds its not gonna be fully powered sage mode, meaning it wont last long as he didnt absorb as much chakra as he could.

The second scan shows naruto entering it in less than a second. And the only reason that clone naruto sat down was so that he could focus on sensing the juubi's chakra.


But actually you just reminded me that naruto doesnt have to gather senju chakra, he can just make a clone to do it for him and when the clone disperses naruto will be fully charged.lol


SO yeah naruto can do it instantly with full nature chakra.

 

[Defendaga]

Obito is definitely powerful, but to what extent is the issue.
Personally, I think he's in a similar boat to both Itachi and Nagato, in which he's much more of a tactical fighter than he is a powerful one (or perhaps more accurate to say, he favors tactical fighting over the use of raw power), and that in order to stand to a chance against Obito, you need to have some basic idea of how his jutsu works.

 

[AlphaScythian]

The second scan shows naruto entering it in less than a second. And the only reason that clone naruto sat down was so that he could focus on sensing the juubi's chakra.

Pathetic excuse, he can do it upside down as well, it was to enter sage mode.
The second scan doesnt show naruto w/o SM at all he is just there already. As far i recall he entered it in advance to complete his animal capture mission or w/e.

But actually you just reminded me that naruto doesnt have to gather senju chakra, he can just make a clone to do it for him and when the clone disperses naruto will be fully charged.lol
SO yeah naruto can do it instantly with full nature chakra.

No. He cant. Narutos total SM time was 5 min. Naruto could only create another 4 SM clones. Naruto needs at least 1/5 of his chakra to have access to SM. There fore 1 clone will only buy him 1 minute in SM.
But none of this matter as in SM naruto cant do a shit vs obito. Its either BM or nothing.

 

[MickNerks]

Pathetic excuse, he can do it upside down as well, it was to enter sage mode.
The second scan doesnt show naruto w/o SM at all he is just there already. As far i recall he entered it in advance to complete his animal capture mission or w/e.

The first picture shows naruto without sage mode, while the second shows naruto in sage mode which is why they have a close up of his eye's with the "sst" in the caption. Look again ill put the panels in order.

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Naruto wasnt in sage mode at first, he entered it quickly when they wouldnt let him leave the room. I dont think you actually read that chapter.lol

He also did it here against the hokage in less than a sec.lol You should pay attention to the manga.

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No. He cant. Narutos total SM time was 5 min. Naruto could only create another 4 SM clones. Naruto needs at least 1/5 of his chakra to have access to SM. There fore 1 clone will only buy him 1 minute in SM.
But none of this matter as in SM naruto cant do a shit vs obito. Its either BM or nothing.

Naurto's total time use to be 5 minute but he has since long been able to exceed that time.
Where are you getting your numbers from, because i've never seen them in the manga. Are you making up facts.lol

Never has the manga said that 1 clone buys him 1 minute. But naruto has said that he was able to extend the time he was able to hold it for.

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Next time come at me with facts man, not made up statistics.lmao

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Hmmm I dunno...

 

[AlphaScythian]

The first picture shows naruto without sage mode, while the second shows naruto in sage mode which is why they have a close up of his eye's with the "sst" in the caption. Look again ill put the panels in order.

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Panels are not in order. Its just half of flashback. Naruto isnt shown to enter in SM, he just is!

Naruto wasnt in sage mode at first, he entered it quickly when they wouldnt let him leave the room. I dont think you actually read that chapter.lol

Oh but i did. lol

He also did it here against the hokage in less than a sec.lol You should pay attention to the manga.

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It takes u to switch from panel to panel in second, it doesnt mean less then second has passed. Time to learn that.

Naurto's total time use to be 5 minute but he has since long been able to exceed that time.
Where are you getting your numbers from, because i've never seen them in the manga. Are you making up facts.lol
Never has the manga said that 1 clone buys him 1 minute. But naruto has said that he was able to extend the time he was able to hold it for.

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Pa stated himself it was 5min, divided by 5 narutos makes it 1 min per clone.
Naruto commented he needed to extend it. He hasnt trained much for it but run away to find sasuke. Its no proof for anything.

Next time come at me with facts man, not made up statistics.lmao

Tell me about it. Ur the one interpreting naruto has extended SM, when even naruto says he needs to get one -.-

Next time u reply to it, do include a real way on how SM will beat obito, while he couldnt defeat remotely controlled puppet.

 

[MickNerks]

Panels are not in order. Its just half of flashback. Naruto isnt shown to enter in SM, he just is!Oh but i did. lol It takes u to switch from panel to panel in second, it doesnt mean less then second has passed.

HAHAHAHA, that wasnt a flashback, the color is gray becuase they are in a dark area.lmao

We can tell that a second has passes based off the anime, which clearly showed him instantly changing.

Time to learn that.Pa stated himself it was 5min, divided by 5 narutos makes it 1 min per clone.
Naruto commented he needed to extend it. He hasnt trained much for it but run away to find sasuke. Its no proof for anything.Tell me about it. Ur the one interpreting naruto has extended SM, when even naruto says he needs to get one -.-

Next time u reply to it, do include a real way on how SM will beat obito, while he couldnt defeat remotely controlled puppet.

I recall pa saying it was 5 min's during the pain arc, we are now in the war arc. And pa didnt say he could only stay in i for one minute. He said he only had one clone so he could only last for 5 minutes after he used it.

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I never said naruto could beat obito, but obito cant beat naruto either. They have no way of hitting each other so it becomes a tie

 

[AlphaScythian]

HAHAHAHA, that wasnt a flashback, the color is gray becuase they are in a dark area.lmao
We can tell that a second has passes based off the anime, which clearly showed him instantly changing.

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Anime is no canon. He still took time to sit down and concentrate.

I recall pa saying it was 5 min's during the pain arc, we are now in the war arc. And pa didnt say he could only stay in i for one minute. He said he only had one clone so he could only last for 5 minutes after he used it.

Sasuke's taijutsu was good at pein arc. now its war arc his taijutsu is the same. Reason he didnt train for it.
Listen if u dont get whole 1 min per clone math then lets stop talking...

I never said naruto could beat obito, but obito cant beat naruto either. They have no way of hitting each other so it becomes a tie

Obito can...He was about to do it but kakshi n gai saved naruto. He can use edo jinx to overpower him. Chakra chains, Preta path, chibaku tensei, even big mokuton if obito so chooses. In the end he can simply outlast naruto's BM

 

[Nous]

Sigh, are people really arguing whether Obito is weaker than Naruto? Obiviously not - he was soloing him and Killer B - had Kakashi and Guy not come, they'd BOTH be dead so that means Obito > Naruto AND Bee.

 

[MickNerks]

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[MickNerks]

Sigh, are people really arguing whether Obito is weaker than Naruto? Obiviously not - he was soloing him and Killer B - had Kakashi and Guy not come, they'd BOTH be dead so that means Obito > Naruto AND Bee.

This isnt a arguement of if obito is weaker then obito.

This was me arguing that at this point in the manga, niether could defeat each other.

naruto cant kill obito because of kumui and obito cant kill naruto because naruto knows his every move and is faster so he can evade.

obito doesnt have jin paths anymore since edo tensei was released, and gedo mazu is not juubi which obito has no control of.

So my arguement is that a battle between the two at this moment would be a stalemate.

 

[abcdefgh]

Living? Yes, obviously out of the living he's #1.
However, counting the living and deceased; NOT Edo (but still excluding the Sage of the Six Paths and his Sons), here's where I'd place him:
1) Hashirama
2) Madara
3) Obito
4) Nagato
5) Naruto
6) Kabuto
7) Sasuke
8) Tobirama/Itachi/Minato
9) Muu/Nidaime Mizukage
10) Sandaime Raikage/Bee

 

[Lightning Release]

Sorry, Naruto is > Obito. Idc if Obito has Kamui, he does not have unlimited chakra (virtually what Naruto has) Thus Naruto can easily push Obito until he is out of chakra, and I also think that Naruto's frog kata can exploit Obito's kamui. Don't underestimate Naruto.