Obito is arguably the most powerful living Ninja currently.

[Draphsin]

Obito is the most powerful living ninja.

The only person who's arguably stronger than him is a zombie.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Wow, smh you are funny.lol

1. Obito has never demonstrated that he could use preta path, and it has been discussed earlier that he probally doesnt even have all the rinnegan techniques because he only posseses one eye, much like how he doesnt have all his MS techinques because he only has one of his Sharingans. Also if he did no preta path wouldnt he have used it against naruto when naruto was smashing his mask off his face.


2. You obviously dont know how obito's kumui works.lol He need to actually touch his opponent in order to kumui them, which is why he hasnt caught naruto already. Naruto can sense his ever move (which i could provide scans for if needed) and is tiers faster than obito.

So no Obito cant Fodderize Naruto as you suggest.




1. Obito has kumui so it understandable that all they have accomplished thus far is removing his mask. Now let me ask you this, Obito has been fighting naruto all day, so what kind of damage has he done to naruto????? Exactly


2. This makes no sense. If naruto has been out of chakra 5 times then how is he still fighting? Oh Wait, you must have forgotten that he draws off a unlimited source of chakra called the Kyuubi.

3. I dont see what obito having the rinnegan has to do with anything. Did naruto not defeat 6pop?

4. By removing the chakra rods naruto freed them, so obito was FORCED to call them back. But the fact that he was able to fight all 5 and still prevail is still a amazing feat.


You have not proven how obito fodderizes naruto, and its because he CANT!

@bolded: Difference is, Obito wasnt just fighting Naruto ALONE. Whereas Obito has been fightning off Naruto Kakashi Gai Killerbe and 8 tails..
ALONE, Obito would have ended Naruto a while back. As I previously stated, EVERY attacked Naruto has tried alone has failed. He can only hit Obito if its through a perfectly timed team effort from Kakashi. Which is why Kakashi is facing Obito alone because he is the only one, besides Minato who can fight Kamui effectively.

 

[Honord Sage]

Obito is not powering an army,not fighting Madara nor fighting the Juubi. And now He won't see whats coming up next,4 Edo Hokage's Orochimaru,Sasuke, Team Taka and A noter power up for Naruto. All this is going to happen as Obito and Kakashi are playing in a noter dimension.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Obito is not powering an army,not fighting Madara nor fighting the Juubi. And now He won't see whats coming up next,4 Edo Hokage's Orochimaru,Sasuke, Team Taka and A noter power up for Naruto. All this is going to happen as Obito and Kakashi are playing in a noter dimension.

The HoKage will turn the tides of battle.

Kakashi will somehow finish Obito. Or maybe Kakashi and Minato together?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Obito is not powering an army,not fighting Madara nor fighting the Juubi. And now He won't see whats coming up next,4 Edo Hokage's Orochimaru,Sasuke, Team Taka and A noter power up for Naruto. All this is going to happen as Obito and Kakashi are playing in a noter dimension.

Oh stop u.
Obito spit some fire and threw some kunais this chapter.
U wanna hype naruto but deny obito's power?

 

[MickNerks]

OKay, so in Naruto's new form, when have we seen him land a hit alone? He was able to headbutt Obito once because obito underestimated him and focused on kakashi, but every attack Naruto has done on his own against Obito has failed. His Bijuu bomb failed, his punches failed. While every attack obito has thrown at him was blocked by someone else.
And if he could sense his every move, how come he didnt notice Obito was above him and only noticed when Kakshi yelled to him?

Obviously you havent been reading my previous post.

My point is that Naruto is more powerful (in terms of raw power), then obito, but if they were to fight it would end up a draw. Obito has to touch naruto to grab him which wont happend because naruto can sense and is faster.

And what are you talking about when you say "And if he could sense his every move, how come he didnt notice Obito was above him and only noticed when Kakshi yelled to him?". You dont know that naruto didnt sense him. The same thing happen before and naruto was able to sense him just fine.

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Your trying to imply that because Kakashi warned him this time, that he couldnt already sense it coming which is false.

Erm, no.

Naruto have been fighting with many others, and since he is the main character of a SJ manga he won't die (yet). Remove the plot, and Naruto would have been raped.

First of all, Obito and Madara are so powerful that Kishimoto cannot make them use the Rinnegan. Rinnegan will give you the abilitie to use all base elements, rinnegan techniques, summon gedo mazo and in Obito's case - control 7 tailed beasts. Naruto never defeated those tailed beast and he would not defeat them either.

Naruto cannot touch Obito, you tell me how you can fight a person you cannot fight. Speed doesn't matter, you will need a space time technique in order to defeat Obito - which won't happen. Dream on, boy.

Your opinion is that he would have been raped. Naruto has been developing as a character since the beginning of the series, his ultimate goal is to become the strongest.

Your first point does have a couple of flaws in it:

1. Yes they do have rinnegan but you dont know how taxing the power is on there chakra reserves which is why you havent seen them using it alot. Also, they may not know how to use all the techniques that one gains from the Rinnegan. NAgato has had it his entire life so he had to learn how to use it. Obito just aquired it and madara admitted that he only had it a short while before his death.

2. Having the rinnegan does not give you the ability to use all elements. Jiraiya stated that it makes it easier to learn them more quickly.

3. Naruto removed obito's control which is why obito had to re-call them. Which techinically is defeating them becasue naruto didnt have to face them again. Had naruto been fighting them he would have K.O'd them all the same. Or did you forget that huge panel where it showed naruto's TBB being just as powerful as the 5 of there's combined.

STOP UNDERRATING NARUTO!!

4.Obito cant kumui naruto without touching him, soooooo how do you think obito will win. I stated in my first post that it would come down to a TIE, unless naruto summons ma and pa and the Frog Song (genjutsu) obito.



But there is no way either of them can hurt the other so Ultimately it is a TIE



But in terms of raw power naruto is more powerful and/or has more powerful techniques.

 

[MrLukyso]

MicNerks a new fanboy in da house.

You just used a speculation in debate, yes Obito is able to use Preta Path, he just never needed to since he has Kamui, it is common sense, it was never stated otherwise, so your only speculating.

Remember only Plot no Jutsu protects Naruto, Madara or Obito can whoop his ass in 1 Page if only Kishimoto would want the "Main Character" to die, which is obviously not gonna happen.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Obviously you havent been reading my previous post.

My point is that Naruto is more powerful (in terms of raw power), then obito, but if they were to fight it would end up a draw. Obito has to touch naruto to grab him which wont happend because naruto can sense and is faster.

And what are you talking about when you say "And if he could sense his every move, how come he didnt notice Obito was above him and only noticed when Kakshi yelled to him?". You dont know that naruto didnt sense him. The same thing happen before and naruto was able to sense him just fine.

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Your trying to imply that because Kakashi warned him this time, that he couldnt already sense it coming which is false.



Your opinion is that he would have been raped. Naruto has been developing as a character since the beginning of the series, his ultimate goal is to become the strongest.

Your first point does have a couple of flaws in it:

1. Yes they do have rinnegan but you dont know how taxing the power is on there chakra reserves which is why you havent seen them using it alot. Also, they may not know how to use all the techniques that one gains from the Rinnegan. NAgato has had it his entire life so he had to learn how to use it. Obito just aquired it and madara admitted that he only had it a short while before his death.

2. Having the rinnegan does not give you the ability to use all elements. Jiraiya stated that it makes it easier to learn them more quickly.

3. Naruto removed obito's control which is why obito had to re-call them. Which techinically is defeating them becasue naruto didnt have to face them again. Had naruto been fighting them he would have K.O'd them all the same. Or did you forget that huge panel where it showed naruto's TBB being just as powerful as the 5 of there's combined.

STOP UNDERRATING NARUTO!!

4.Obito cant kumui naruto without touching him, soooooo how do you think obito will win. I stated in my first post that it would come down to a TIE, unless naruto summons ma and pa and the Frog Song (genjutsu) obito.



But there is no way either of them can hurt the other so Ultimately it is a TIE



But in terms of raw power naruto is more powerful and/or has more powerful techniques.

Obito can solo more people than Naruto can. That is all. Naruto can solo a few mains.
While Obito can solo all if not most.

 

[MickNerks]

@bolded: Difference is, Obito wasnt just fighting Naruto ALONE. Whereas Obito has been fightning off Naruto Kakashi Gai Killerbe and 8 tails..
ALONE, Obito would have ended Naruto a while back. As I previously stated, EVERY attacked Naruto has tried alone has failed. He can only hit Obito if its through a perfectly timed team effort from Kakashi. Which is why Kakashi is facing Obito alone because he is the only one, besides Minato who can fight Kamui effectively.

You have a hard time reading so ill put it in BIG BOLD LETTERS so you can understand what im saying.lmao


NARUTO CAN NOT HARM OBITO AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE OF KUMUI.

OBITO CANT HARM NARUTO BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO TOUCH NARUTO TO KUMAI HIM, AND NARUTO CAN SENSE HIM AND IS FASTER THEN HIM; SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBITO TO HURT NARUTO BECAUSE OBITO'S FIRE TECHNIQUES ARE USELESS AGAINS NARUTO'S CLOAK.


THE BATTLE WOULD BE A TIE BECAUSE NEITHER COULD HURT THE OTHER!!!


YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THIS OBVIOUS POINT AND KEEP MAKING THE SAME ARGUMENT, THAT ARE ULTIMATELY ONE SIDED AND WRONG.



When you give me a way obito can harm naruto then I will agree with you. But if they were to fight right now 1 vs 1 it would be a TIE.



Now in regards to who the most powerful ninja alive is, im going with naruto because he has more powerful techniques.

 

[paul234]

seriously, the same obito who is just running around with a giant shiruken, the same obito who needs to touch u in order to use kemui on you,please he is only good at running away period, konan showed it since he had to use inzanagi to escape her. people say he has the rennigan but does he really? cos i have not seen him use it in this fight neither have i seen said genjutsu, so i say again no,obito is the worst hype ever,the only person worst is probably A.

 

[Honord Sage]

Oh stop u.
Obito spit some fire and threw some kunais this chapter.
U wanna hype naruto but deny obito's power?

I don't Obito Name on the Manga,It instead say Naruto, dose that give you a clue? Or are you going into denial as Obito is defeated.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

You have a hard time reading so ill put it in BIG BOLD LETTERS so you can understand what im saying.lmao


NARUTO CAN NOT HARM OBITO AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE OF KUMUI.

OBITO CANT HARM NARUTO BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO TOUCH NARUTO TO KUMAI HIM, AND NARUTO CAN SENSE HIM AND IS FASTER THEN HIM; SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OBITO TO HURT NARUTO BECAUSE OBITO'S FIRE TECHNIQUES ARE USELESS AGAINS NARUTO'S CLOAK.


THE BATTLE WOULD BE A TIE BECAUSE NEITHER COULD HURT THE OTHER!!!


YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THIS OBVIOUS POINT AND KEEP MAKING THE SAME ARGUMENT, THAT ARE ULTIMATELY ONE SIDED AND WRONG.



When you give me a way obito can harm naruto then I will agree with you. But if they were to fight right now 1 vs 1 it would be a TIE.



Now in regards to who the most powerful ninja alive is, im going with naruto because he has more powerful techniques.

According to you I need to learn to read.
But you need to learn to spell.

 

[Lightbringer]

he's top 3 strongest in Naruto imo

 

[AlphaScythian]

Rofl naruto is fodder compared to obito, if not his BM that ONLY LASTS FOR 10 MIN(actually less).

 

[CDT23]

Rofl naruto is fodder compared to obito, if not his BM that ONLY LASTS FOR 10 MIN(actually less).

lol duh bm is part of narutos arsenal, if obito had a regular eye he would be dead way before the war started.

 

[MickNerks]

MicNerks a new fanboy in da house.

You just used a speculation in debate, yes Obito is able to use Preta Path, he just never needed to since he has Kamui, it is common sense, it was never stated otherwise, so your only speculating.

Remember only Plot no Jutsu protects Naruto, Madara or Obito can whoop his ass in 1 Page if only Kishimoto would want the "Main Character" to die, which is obviously not gonna happen.

I am a die-hard fanboy of naruto. This is no secret, but im not the one speculating here, You are.

Everything i have stated has gone off what we've seen and was said in the manga. Yet you are under the assumption that obito can use a ability that he has never displayed or admitted that he could use. So let me ask you this, By your logic of obito knowing preta path with only one rinnegan does that also mean:

1. Obito can use susanoo, but just hasnt because he has kamui
2. Can use kakashi's version of kamui (which allows you to warp people at a distance)
3. Use Asura Path or Chibuku Tensei

Because these are all things that he HAS NOT displayed.

Obito can solo more people than Naruto can. That is all. Naruto can solo a few mains.
While Obito can solo all if not most.

So now this has become about who has beat the most people. I guess your done.GG

 

[AlphaScythian]

lol duh bm is part of narutos arsenal, if obito had a regular eye he would be dead way before the war started.

Lol dun im not questioning that.
Im stating the fact that naruto has had run out of kyuubi chakra several times while obito is still there and kicking.
He will rape naruto once BM is out!!!

 

[MickNerks]

According to you I need to learn to read.
But you need to learn to spell.

????

So I take it you are done.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I don't Obito Name on the Manga,It instead say Naruto, dose that give you a clue? Or are you going into denial as Obito is defeated.

Yeah loser. Naruto was the name of manga since chapter one. I guess he was the strongest ever since right?

 

[MickNerks]

Lol dun im not questioning that.
Im stating the fact that naruto has had run out of kyuubi chakra several times while obito is still there and kicking.
He will rape naruto one BM is out!!!

Did you forget naruto can go from BM to KM to SM instantly?