Tsunade is definitely NOT the WEAKEST hokage....... she owns everyone except HASHI

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yea i agree with you she only punches and kicks things 90% of the times but EVEN 1 PUNCH CAN END YOUR LIFE.... The only reason why kabuto survived was because he dislocated her muscles with his medic skills to nullify her DEATH PUNCHES even orochimaru bones were broken along with his face rip to shreds when Tsunade's strength was nullified, so your point bro?

SHE STILL STOMPS.. how will the others deal with her give me a solution for that,

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power means nothing without the speed and skill to back it up.
 

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You overrate Tsunade so much. You have even been stupid enough to say she can beat Sasuke.

its a sin to here to say she will lose to sasuke when she can simple store that BLACK FLAMES IN HER YIN SEAL AND ALSO HEAL FROM IT... arrows aint doing her shitt we all know that and susanoo is weak she will smashed that just removed this sasuke issue he dont even have the YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LIKE TSUNADE much less to beat her, if you had been paying attention you would realized that all of sasuke's fight HE ALWAYS GETS HELP SILLY
 

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I agree with katsuyu being used as a relay satellite for tsunade but you are forgetting one point.Tsunade being able to keep up minato's speed is utter BS.This guy has the fastest reflexes in NV.Ftg or not he is still faster than tsunade.Tsunade is said to have a very linear fighting style which makes her very predictable.She couldn't land a hit on kabuto which brings her taijutsu prowess to a question.Can she keep up with a taijutsu master like minato???
He sliced one of bee's tentacles into half with just a kunai and did you observe how much devastation his rasengan caused to the ground???
Tsunade has monstrous strength but downplaying minato's genius is a sin.On top of that he is a fuuninjutsu master.
Stop acting like he's a fodder and get real.Minato > Tsunade U_U



bro Tsunade was out of combat for years, Kabuto had to take DRUGS to keep up with a RUSTY 50 YEAR OLD TSUNADE SO WHATS YOUR POINT ABOUT TSUNADE CANT LAND BLOWS?
SHE INCAPACITATED HIM BODY PATHWAY EASILY... Lol

Tsunade is also FUUNINJUTSU MASTER remember she devised that YIN SEAL FROM MITO THE GREATEST SEALER?>>>KUSHINA so seal techs is out of this question
I'm aware Minato is very smart but Tsunade is also intelligent too, dont underestimate her, incapacitated madara without he saw that coming (and sharigan suppose to read through moves) in addition to lay a trap on him so ONOKI could finished him off.....

also dude i think what you and others are MISUNDERSTANDING IS THE ENTIRE FTG JUTSU it doesn't makes someone run PHYSICALLY, and like any other jutsu it consumes a lot of chackra, Minato isn't noted for this because Obito pushed him to his limits, when he only used the jutsu a few times.......... Bro Tsunade take this one period
she has so many ways to undo is jutsu while Minato still haven't got any counters for body pathway, BYAKUGOU, Scalpels which will rendered his only offensive battle thus known RASENGAN
 

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power means nothing without the speed and skill to back it up.

your looking at a speed bliz picture of Tsunade...... she maneuvered another susanoo in mid air with too large heavy swords in her gut, that should have slowed her down drastically so your point?

she didn't even got caught in an illusion despite severely out numbered by the greatest uchiha.... unlike my man EI who lost focus, Tsunade is powerfula dn fast indeed her speed is adequate to strike minato at some point with her intelligence and slugs help
 

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why do you insist on making a yourself look like a fool

WHY DO YOU INSIST ON BEING A LUNATIC, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SEVERAL DISTURBANCES IN THAT CEREBRUM OF YOURS.....

provide facts scans and logical reasoning why she cant take them out and dont be remedial by throwing disses
 

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You state bias opinion of yours, not manga facts

i stated all the manga facts i could and I'm not bias I'm proving that Tsunade is better than these guys, its up to you to prove me wrong by indicating how the others gets around her jutsus
 

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What about Madara Uchiha, Naruto, Nagato, Sasuke, and Obito? They have more than enough feats in powers/skills to defeat Tsunade. You are clearly overestimating Tsunade when you stated she can own everyone except for Hashirama. She's not the weakest Hokage, but she sure has hell isn't going to own everyone.

You stated manga facts and DB facts, but about counters by other shinobis I listed above?
 

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my op in rank is this


1.Harashima of course was there any doubt
2. because of his Hirashin Minato wihtout it he be number 4
3. Tsunade hard to kill and super strong
4. tobi idk what he can do
5. Sarutobi ...................................... He got moxy
 

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Woooww. You have to stop this madness. Im in no way saying tsunade is weak because she has proved countless times that she is a verypowerful shinobi. But SHE CAN NOT, and i repeat, CAN NOT defeat Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, or Minato.

First on all your mistake lies when you judge Hiruzen only from what you've seen in part one and Minato from the techniques he showned in his fight aganist the kyuubi. I'll defend Hiruzen first then make my way to Minato.


IMO Hiruzen still easily beats tsunade. Look at it like this, If orochimaru hadnt summoned the 1st and 2nd hokages in their fight hiruzen would have won easily, as we saw him dominate orochiamru in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu, and kenjutsu before and after the kages were summoned. Tsunade on the other hand couldnt even defeat a orochimaru who had his hands basically tied behind his back.


Now you attempted to call hiruzen's techniques C ranked, which is very laughable, because there were shown in pre-shippuden and its common knowlegde now that the power scale in pre-shippuden was very lacking compared to shippuden. Here is an example, the same orochimaru who had arms in pt.1 got defeated by Hiruzen, yet in part 2 that SAME orochimaru w/o arms could go toe to toe with a 4 tails naruto. All the techniques hiruzen has shown us thus far have been S-A ranked but just not as visually power because of the power increase givin to shippuden.


Hiruzen's taijutsu is said to already be superior to tsuandes, as he has completely mastered it. And his Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Kenjutsu, Finjutsu are also on a completely diffrent level then her own. And then you also forget Hiruzen's secret weapon which is enma. And tsunade cant fight Enma and hiruzen at once. Enma would pound the $#!+ out of tsunade. All it would take was one paper bomb to the back of the head and Kaboom!!! no more tsunade, becuase without a brain her body cant control chakra to heal. And i know you are gonna say "hiruzen wouldnt land a paper bomb on tsunade because she it to fast", well if you got one on hash and tobi, im very postive that he could land one on her. Also because she is a close range fighter it would make it easier for hiruzen to take advantage with his long range justu.



Saying Tsunade is greater than minato is absolutely ridiculous. All he would have to do is seal of her yin seal on her forehead, which will take away her immortality and then just FTG her head off.


She is not on the level of the previous 4 kages, which is why kishi clearly called them the four strongest soldiers.
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And why would you even post this when the kages are about to go to war and show their full power. You've never seen hiruzen or tobirama's power in shippuden, so shouldnt you have waited till after the war to post this. Because after they pull off some godly feats (which they will), you will have to eat your words.
 
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WHY DO YOU INSIST ON BEING A LUNATIC, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SEVERAL DISTURBANCES IN THAT CEREBRUM OF YOURS.....

provide facts scans and logical reasoning why she cant take them out and dont be remedial by throwing disses

no zesto, i gave up after you said that tsunade will survive jinton
 

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What about Madara Uchiha, Naruto, Nagato, Sasuke, and Obito? They have more than enough feats in powers/skills to defeat Tsunade. You are clearly overestimating Tsunade when you stated she can own everyone except for Hashirama. She's not the weakest Hokage, but she sure has hell isn't going to own everyone.

You stated manga facts and DB facts, but about counters by other shinobis I listed above?

HELLO this thread is about Minato, Tobirama and Hiruzen not NAGATO, SASUKE AND MADARA
NAGATO is debatable she has a chance he even admits that THE LEGENDARY SANNINS IS A BIT ABOVE HIS LEVEL......
as i have said SASUKE is more overrated than Tsunade, and he cant beat her, she seals his black flames she can heal from his black flames, her speed is sufficient to evade from it a few times and arrows are useless... if swords couldn't got the job done consecutively what makes you think 2 arrows will, she cant be killed once she has chackra, moreover not to mention her slug that can wipe the floor with that kid........
 

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no zesto, i gave up after you said that tsunade will survive jinton

yes she will KISHI, MANGA AND DATABOOK FACTS NOT MY OPINION YOU CANT BEAT THAT SO DEAL WITH IT live with cherished it and suck it up
 

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my op in rank is this


1.Harashima of course was there any doubt
2. because of his Hirashin Minato wihtout it he be number 4
3. Tsunade hard to kill and super strong
4. tobi idk what he can do
5. Sarutobi ...................................... He got moxy

ok bro i understand this list perfectly and i would agree with it no doubt but the reason why i would place both Tsunade and Tobirama above minato is the fact that they are both senjus..... SENJUS HAS A TANK OF STAMINA JUST LIKE THE UZUMAKIS.... They dont tire so quickly , we have seen how Minato PANT couple times well when he used that FTG against OBITO
 
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