[Discussion] US Decriminalization of marijuana

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Marijuana is not a drug. It's a leaf.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

I don't see any problem with it being legal.... But it's really dangerous, if its legal alot of people will start buying it and the damage it does to u is substantial, can't even imagine to think how you'd go through the withdrawal symptoms

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

I don't see any problem with it being legal.... But it's really dangerous, if its legal alot of people will start buying it and the damage it does to u is substantial, can't even imagine to think how you'd go through the withdrawal symptoms

there are no withdrawal symtons

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Make it legal. No scientific reason to keep it illegal while allowing alcohol and ***s to be legal.

I look forward to my hemp shirts and hempboard.

 

[Bijuu13]

If i was making laws i would be way more severe on alchohol than weed.
I understand they cant tax it or whatever but that doesnt mean they have to criminalize it.

 

[Aim64C]

This has been in and out of the news for the longest time.


Should it be legal

Or should it stay illegal

I think the most practical question is: "Does this represent a critical detriment to the coherent function of the population served by the laws of this government? If so, to what degree is it practical to enforce restrictions or enact penalties?"

marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol so whats your stance

Honestly, I look at the logic of the marijuana user the same as I look at the logic of the smoker or drinker. I consider its use to be mostly a crutch that is unbecoming of sentient beings and I generally disapprove.

Particularly if said person is an absolute moron and believes the plant to hold the salvation of humanity (such people should be killed on the spot and have their blood line purged by one vector). They aren't quite as cranially defective as "We are citizens of the world" (should be purged out to three vectors) - but I suspect a lot of overlap in the two affected populations.

Obviously - I don't approve, like, or consider any drug use to be a good thing (proper medicinal applications aside... though anyone smoking something 'for medicinal purposes' should have any children within their direct social geneology placed under surveilance - if similar failures of intelligence are demonstrated, immediate sterilization and denial of adoption is recommended). I believe people should be free to expose their stupidity to the world so that it may be pruned by those of us who would like to see our children grow up in a world capable of further technological advancement.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

there are no withdrawal symtons

Yes there are, They are mild but definitely uncomfortable

 

[Forest]

it should be decriminalized at least, and make it 18 or older to smoke, that way people don't have to get brought down to precincts for having a joint clip on them. waist of money to be processed through the system.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

This video is totally relevant to this topic.

Watch it.

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[Aim64C]

Make it legal. No scientific reason to keep it illegal while allowing alcohol and ***s to be legal.

I look forward to my hemp shirts and hempboard.

Hemp and cannabis are two different plants. Don't question me on this - look it up. Cannabis is for THC, Hemp is for fibers.

Not to mention there's absolutely no reason why the same shirts could not be made from fibers extracted from corn stalks and other existing crops. A 'cellulose industry' would process a wide range of different crops, their fibers, and other biological compounds the same way current oil refinement processes wide ranges of oil. There would be no profit in growing hemp for industrial purposes. It would be seen as a cost-recovery market for those growing cannabis for THC refinement and processing into retail products - and that is all.

The reason we don't see current crops being used for this is because no such industry exists, spare for the government-propped alcohol fuel programs. Those won't see real commercial viability until a much larger industry develops around them that can replicate such things as polymers for plastics, industrial lubricants, and more interest develops in the use of cellulose nanocrystal composites (stronger than carbon fiber and plausibly far cheaper to make) develops. Even then - many of those things will find it hard to compete with the oil-derived counterparts. They'll have to creatively exploit strained markets or try to develop new ones in order to really develop any strength.

 

[ROSH2]

It should stay illegal

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

I'm Sorry but Don't even Smoke

 

[YowYan]

Don't compare marijuana with alcohol.

Marijuana is medicine and the healing of a nation. Alcohol is the destruction of a nation.

 

[YowYan]

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[ZK]

I think the most practical question is: "Does this represent a critical detriment to the coherent function of the population served by the laws of this government? If so, to what degree is it practical to enforce restrictions or enact penalties?"



Honestly, I look at the logic of the marijuana user the same as I look at the logic of the smoker or drinker. I consider its use to be mostly a crutch that is unbecoming of sentient beings and I generally disapprove.

Particularly if said person is an absolute moron and believes the plant to hold the salvation of humanity (such people should be killed on the spot and have their blood line purged by one vector). They aren't quite as cranially defective as "We are citizens of the world" (should be purged out to three vectors) - but I suspect a lot of overlap in the two affected populations.

Obviously - I don't approve, like, or consider any drug use to be a good thing (proper medicinal applications aside... though anyone smoking something 'for medicinal purposes' should have any children within their direct social geneology placed under surveilance - if similar failures of intelligence are demonstrated, immediate sterilization and denial of adoption is recommended). I believe people should be free to expose their stupidity to the world so that it may be pruned by those of us who would like to see our children grow up in a world capable of further technological advancement.

It really saddens me every time one of you edgy mother****ers pop up and start spreading this shit. You disguise it professionally with well-structured arguments, great terminology, etcetera. It's really too bad that it's all to promote an ideology with 'zero tolerance' as its catchphrase.

I could talk about How the Third Reich had somewhat the same approach to what they considered the 'Untermensch'. Humans who displayed undesirable traits were gassed (or otherwise killed), sterilized or forced into hard labor. The National Socialists had another target-group, yes, but your concepts are quite similar. 'Cut the sick branches from the tree', ' kill all stupid people', 'remove the unfit ones who burden our society'.

I bet you'll shoot me down with a wall of shit, but I hope you can admit to yourself that you're out there. Extremism. Der Rote Armee Fraktion really wouldn't be able to hold a candle to you and those who share your ideas. You're so extreme on each your end of the 'political' spectrum that you actually share some concepts.

I'm sure you'll argue that 'just because Hitler did it doesn't make it morally/ethically wrong to do', which I think is true, but you've got to consider what kind of ideology you're promoting. Kill someone for his opinion? Kill someones family because they are carriers of a trait you find undesirable? 'Cleanse' the human race's genes?

Jesus.

 

[Aim64C]

just read it

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No, do proper research.

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If you bothered, you'd realize that most of the claims of the pro-hemp zombies are unfounded by any scientific research. At best, they are perpetuated because of a few misrepresented studies that none of your crowd bothers to actually look up for themselves.

And, I'm sorry, but anyone who recommends inhaling the byproducts of any carbon based combustion as a medical treatment needs to be summarily executed before their stupidity spreads. There are much better ways to go about introducing a beneficial or recreational compound into the blood stream via inhalation. There's no excuse for intelligent individuals knowledgable of medicinal practices in use since the 1800s to be advocating such crude and counter-productive behavior as smoking.

Now... is there anything else?

 

[YowYan]

No, do proper research.

You must be registered for see links

If you bothered, you'd realize that most of the claims of the pro-hemp zombies are unfounded by any scientific research. At best, they are perpetuated because of a few misrepresented studies that none of your crowd bothers to actually look up for themselves.

And, I'm sorry, but anyone who recommends inhaling the byproducts of any carbon based combustion as a medical treatment needs to be summarily executed before their stupidity spreads. There are much better ways to go about introducing a beneficial or recreational compound into the blood stream via inhalation. There's no excuse for intelligent individuals knowledgable of medicinal practices in use since the 1800s to be advocating such crude and counter-productive behavior as smoking.

Now... is there anything else?

Nicely html-coded site. Sadly, it's garbage used to dismiss the truth. In the end promoting government infringement. fail.

Marihuana has never been criminalized and it never will, as the government cannot convert a right into a criminal activity. What they have done is make it 'illegal', which is to say that it is against their policy. A policy cannot be forced on you buy any institution. It can only become lawfully binding with your agreement. Most people who are in jail for possession are there because they failed to rebut the presumptions of the courts that they agreed to abide by the governments rules.

And access to a natural medicinal plant that can cure cancer is an absolute human right. The courts and the government are acting criminally by refusing you access.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

As long as it doesnt effect my life i dont care but

if u do drugs or drink alot and it screws up my life i will make sure u wish u never did any of that Horse$@#%@@#$^#$^#

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Hemp and cannabis are two different plants. Don't question me on this - look it up. Cannabis is for THC, Hemp is for fibers.

Not to mention there's absolutely no reason why the same shirts could not be made from fibers extracted from corn stalks and other existing crops. A 'cellulose industry' would process a wide range of different crops, their fibers, and other biological compounds the same way current oil refinement processes wide ranges of oil. There would be no profit in growing hemp for industrial purposes. It would be seen as a cost-recovery market for those growing cannabis for THC refinement and processing into retail products - and that is all.

The reason we don't see current crops being used for this is because no such industry exists, spare for the government-propped alcohol fuel programs. Those won't see real commercial viability until a much larger industry develops around them that can replicate such things as polymers for plastics, industrial lubricants, and more interest develops in the use of cellulose nanocrystal composites (stronger than carbon fiber and plausibly far cheaper to make) develops. Even then - many of those things will find it hard to compete with the oil-derived counterparts. They'll have to creatively exploit strained markets or try to develop new ones in order to really develop any strength.

Hemp is banned along with cannabis. If pot is legal then we can use hemp again! Hemp can be grown so quickly and its fibers are better for industrial use than wood. I look forward to hempboard since it can easily be 2X as strong as particle board and can replace the need for trees in making paper. The stuff grows anywhere and everywhere so it would work nicely to replace tree farms.

Corn is one of the most inefficient crops on the planet, I don't know why we grow so much of it. Not sure why it isn't use in many industrial purposes though, maby the fibers are too tough. Converting corn to oil is very inefficient, that's why its not used much outside of war. You can grow hemp to mass produce paper at a cheaper cost than trees, hemp requires very little fertilizer and grows quickly. You can mix it with concrete to make a rather interesting form of concrete that is less brittle than normal and more insulating.

Bah, just go google industrial uses for hemp there are tons of uses for it. Hemp is a lot more useful than you think, it used to be one of the most harvested industrial crops on the planet before they banned it and pot.

 

[kenzi]

It should be legal.