Naruto(with kyuubi) is NOT immune to genjutsu

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Already knew this when I Sasuke drop Bee in a genjutsu.
 

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That's why Danzo never used the term "perfect jinchuriki". Having control over his tailed beast could simply mean being able typo use a large amount of the bijuu's chakra, like km Naruto. When Tsunade first saw Naruto's km, she said Naruto had gained control of the fox.
Also every Uchiha who has controlled kurama had ms. Ms is required to control the fox. That's a manga fact.


Agreed with this. I must admit I made a mistake when I said he was a perfect jinchuuriki. I was under the impression that he was stated by Danzo to be a perfect jinchuuriki, but going back to that page, he only said "achieved true control over Bijuu", which doesn't in any way mean he was a perfect jinchuuriki.
Regarding Kyuubi, it's indeed a manga fact that blindness, which is MS, is the price for gaining control over the Kyuubi.

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And the reason Kishimoto never showed Obito's MS in the Kyuubi attack flashback is kinda obvious. It was made clear that Obito had MS at that time, too. So I guess this thread failed twice, now.

:sy: So you want to say yagura, a little kid, was fully able to manipulate that tailed beast without his cooperation ? Also, naruto only became perfect jinchuriki, when kurama actually started to help him.
After kurama befriended naruto, thats what obito said
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That's where you failed. Yagura a little kid, you say?

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I wonder who's the little kid here tbh.

Bold: Obito at that time had no idea Naruto was friends with the Kyuubi. So there you go, your argument completely proven null. Don't create threads again.
 

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1. Plot wont allow the hero to be captured.
2. In his battle against obito, bee was always with him. Guy and kakashi also came to the spot after few minutes/hours.


Again, this is how the plot works.
tbh, obito could just warp to naruto when he was genin/chunnin level and extract the bijju at that time, no?

OR maybe, he simply put both of them under his genjutsu at the same time and fully controlled him the way they want. Obito was controlling the kyuubi and fighting hokage at the same time, so compared to that, this is cake walk lol.

I doubt you can blame it on plot, Simply because it doesn't fit in with your theory.
 

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You didn't really provide proof. Show a scan where Naruto cooperating with Kurama was caught, and you'll have proof.

This here... you honestly proved nothing. And we don't know what kind of relationship yagura actually had with his beat so this is basically speculation. But Manga said perfect jinchuurki with the beast tamed are immune to genjutsu. I'll believe the Manga until someone proves it wrong.
 

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Agreed with this. I must admit I made a mistake when I said he was a perfect jinchuuriki. I was under the impression that he was stated by Danzo to be a perfect jinchuuriki, but going back to that page, he only said "achieved true control over Bijuu", which doesn't in any way mean he was a perfect jinchuuriki.
Regarding Kyuubi, it's indeed a manga fact that blindness, which is MS, is the price for gaining control over the Kyuubi.

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And the reason Kishimoto never showed Obito's MS in the Kyuubi attack flashback is kinda obvious. It was made clear that Obito had MS at that time, too. So I guess this thread failed twice, now.
You are failing miserably trying to prove my thread as a fail xD .

So, Obito is blind now , since he gained control over the kyuubi.

kishimoto wasn't hiding Madara's sharingan was he? still he showed madara controlling kyuubi with 3t.
And obito gained control over a perfect jinchuriki (read the update in the OP to know more about this). So i wont be surprised if obito controlled with 3t... oh wait he did control it with 3t. Also obito doesn't get tsukiyomi from his MS, so i don't see how his MS is gonna help him anymore ?

That's where you failed. Yagura a little kid, you say?

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I wonder who's the little kid here tbh.

Bold: Obito at that time had no idea Naruto was friends with the Kyuubi. So there you go, your argument completely proven null. Don't create threads again.

LOL seriously ?!
just how can i take any of your arguments seriously now ?
It is crystal clear that yagura is a kid, he looks as old as naruto in chunnin exams.
And tell me which kid would like to be called as kid ?

I doubt you can blame it on plot, Simply because it doesn't fit in with your theory.

You put a "what if " situation against me, and this was most appropriate answer.
You say, if this was so easy as you say, then why obito didn't do it.
i say, plot no jutsu. And as i explained before also, obito could've kidnapped young aged naruto and extracted the beast anytime he wanted.

And yeah , you didn't disagreed , did you ?
 
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The OP is saying if Yagura was put under genjutsu, Naruto will be put under genjutsu too. Overlooking the fact that how Naruto works with the Kyuubi is exactly like how Bee and the Hachibi do. They're both friends with their Bijuu, so whenever their jinchuuriki is put under genjutsu, they would dispel it. So instead the OP is linking Naruto's connection with his Bijuu to someone we don't even know his method of controlling his Bijuu. This is officially a failed thread.
 

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Manga says Perfect jinchuriki can end of discussion.
 

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no matter what people say to you, you ain't ready to listen. Your thread fail
 

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The OP is saying if Yagura was put under genjutsu, Naruto will be put under genjutsu too. Overlooking the fact that how Naruto works with the Kyuubi is exactly like how Bee and the Hachibi do. They're both friends with their Bijuu, so whenever their jinchuuriki is put under genjutsu, they would dispel it. So instead the OP is linking Naruto's connection with his Bijuu to someone we don't even know his method of controlling his Bijuu. This is officially a failed thread.
This is just plain ignorance. If you read the updated part, and all the replies i have made to you, enough evidence is collected which confirms yagura is a perfect jinchuriki who have complete control over his host yet he got under a genjutsu.


no matter what people say to you, you ain't ready to listen. Your thread fail

Ha ha ha!
in part one, naruto was told he was a failure and he would remain a failure. He didn't give a F**k about it.
my inspiration is naruto :p
 

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You are failing miserably trying to prove my thread as a fail xD .

So, Obito is blind now , since he gained control over the kyuubi.

kishimoto wasn't hiding Madara's sharingan was he? still he showed madara controlling kyuubi with 3t.
And obito gained control over a perfect jinchuriki (read the update in the OP to know more about this). So i wont be surprised if obito controlled with 3t... oh wait he did control it with 3t. Also obito doesn't get tsukiyomi from his MS, so i don't see how his MS is gonna help him anymore ?
LOL seriously ?!
just how can i take any of your arguments seriously now ?
It is crystal clear that yagura is a kid, he looks as old as naruto in chunnin exams.
And tell me which kid would like to be called as kid ?

Look who's talking. Do you even read what you post?

>Sees Yagura put under genjutsu. Says Naruto will be put under genjutsu as well.
>Sees Sasuke talk about blindness. Has no idea that he means MS.
>Sees a manga character who looks like a kid. Says he's a kid even though manga stated he's an adult.
 

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Look who's talking. Do you even read what you post?

>Sees Yagura put under genjutsu. Says Naruto will be put under genjutsu as well.
>Sees Sasuke talk about blindness. Has no idea that he means MS.
>Sees a manga character who looks like a kid. Says he's a kid even though manga stated he's an adult.
oh god xD

you are still stuck up on that kid thing :rofl:

okay dude you win, whatever makes you happy xD
 

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You didn't really provide proof. Show a scan where Naruto cooperating with Kurama was caught, and you'll have proof.

Right to the point .... thats why i like you humor rikerslade ;)

OT : I agree with ^
 

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Someone close this thread please.
Don't take it personally Frikid. xD
 

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NO! there are still people who might have good counters for my post.

i never do . i means its a naruto forum xD ..

Please... You still believe in that theory? I mean, the only ones who agreed with it were you and some Sasuke fanboy. =D
 

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madara and hashirama are on the list but they are not friends with the kyuubi they only have true control...so yagura most likely is not friends with the 3tails...yagura might just have a jutsu that forces a bijuu to do what he wills like madara and hashirama....
 

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no he isnt immune genjutsu still works however naruto ust has a convenient way to break out of it :|

immunity means it wouldnt work at all but that isnt the case
 

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Why do you even bother to post in my threads? you obviously don't read them, then when you try to counter my arguments , you fail miserably and then you leave the thread saying i am fanboy.

i respect everyone's opinion if presented in a good/organised manner.

So this is the reason behind that post. How very immature. You should know when to stop a fail before you embarrass yourself further. Do doubt I and several others have termed you as a fanboy.
 

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1- That Naruto was fodder level in chakra control. Current Naruto is probably the best in chakra control right now like we've seen how he even handled Kyubi's chakra easily to the point he can even change his chakra pattern to match any individual, so normal genjutsus shouldn't even be able to work on him anymore

2- Kyubi is inside Naruto. For a Sharingan user to catch Kyubi, he would have to get thru Naruto first. By the time Kyubi can dissipate the genjutsu easily.

3- Those same people you mention(Madara, Obito) are fighting Naruto currently since a while, but never attempted a genjutsu, when it could easily make things go softly. Do you know why they don't? Simply because they can't
 
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