Naruto and Kurama's strength

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It's plot. The only other reason would be that naruto is uzumaki, and that uzumaki have a special relationship with the beasts because of the Sage's lineage or something. That or the Sage put part of his soul into kurama in order to empower him or some asspull like that.

I think it is both

 

[hixa kuogame]

nice analyzation
i had the same reaction when naruto got kcm and bm modes i was expecting the same thing
but i still think that killer bee is still the strongest at tailed beast mode mainly because he is the best when it comes to control and i dont really see bm mode being that OP other than when it comes to giving out chakra
idk ill have to look back over the chapters

 

[Xlad]

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. ^_^ Now I do agree with you there. That is kinda where my argument hits a standstill. I already know that Naruto's power with Kurama;s help would be devastating. However, I'm really trying to figure out how Naruto got the chakra shroud that we see now instead of a flesh & blood Host Trans formation. And even with his arsenal being fused with Kurama's, the base ammount of power that Kurama alone is giving him is just plain ludicrous. And I see this in no other Jinchuuriki. THAT's where my questions are stemming from.

That's okay. I think it has something to do with the Torii Seal.

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Maybe the new seal was meant to look like Naruto's TBM; but because he restricted the Tailed Beast, the KCM's appearances is the results, signaling restriction and incompletion. When Naruto unsealed the Tailed Beast, his form was supposed to look like that since the Torii Seal belongs to SO6P. The seal may also belong to the Uzumakis, noting the spirals formed. But IDK. :dunno:

Also, the Nine-Tails really is too powerful. That's why Minato wasn't able to seal all of the beast inside baby Naruto. Sealing the whole beast would probably result in his death. Even Jiraiya noted that Naruto is too small of a vessel, even if he only has the Yang aspect.

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

nice analyzation
i had the same reaction when naruto got kcm and bm modes i was expecting the same thing
but i still think that killer bee is still the strongest at tailed beast mode mainly because he is the best when it comes to control and i dont really see bm mode being that OP other than when it comes to giving out chakra
idk ill have to look back over the chapters

I agree with you 100% about the Chakra Delegation being absolute bull (I can't believe I missed that in the thread .-.). But My MAIN concern is that I DO believe Naruto's Host Transformation is OP. I mean I thought Bee would be the strongest, but Naruto is really just putting everyone to shame atm. He created a TBB that blew away the combined TBB of 5 OTHER TAILED BEASTS!!! WTF!!!??? And he makes these stupidly large TBBs seemingly in a matter of a few seconds. It took KURAMA HIMSELF a good 10 seconds (before getting interrupted , or it probably would've been even bigger) to do that in the anime (the only reason I use the anime here is because that part was completely canon andgave a good sense of pacing throughout the fight's progression)! Not to mention the ludicrous speed that seemingly came right out of the blue. . . I have absolutely NO explanation for that as I never saw Kurama himself blitz anyone nor did I see Pre-control Tailed Beast Naruto blitz anyone. . .

 

[Shura]

The answer is simple: Naruto is the main character.

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

That's okay. I think it has something to do with the Torii Seal.

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Maybe the new seal was meant to look like Naruto's TBM; but because he restricted the Tailed Beast, the KCM's appearances is the results, signaling restriction and incompletion. When Naruto unsealed the Tailed Beast, his form was supposed to look like that since the Torii Seal belongs to SO6P. The seal may also belong to the Uzumakis, noting the spirals formed. But IDK. :dunno:

Also, the Nine-Tails really is too powerful. That's why Minato wasn't able to seal all of the beast inside baby Naruto. Sealing the whole beast would probably result in his death. Even Jiraiya noted that Naruto is too small of a vessel, even if he only has the Yang aspect.

That is a VERY good point you just made about the torii Seal. I still don't quite understand it in full, but I'm sure I will if I research it a bit more.

As for Kurama being OP as all hell. . . Well. . . I dont know. . . Kishi got some splainin' to do. . . ^_^

 

[Xlad]

That is a VERY good point you just made about the torii Seal. I still don't quite understand it in full, but I'm sure I will if I research it a bit more.

As for Kurama being OP as all hell. . . Well. . . I dont know. . . Kishi got some splainin' to do. . . ^_^

Better yet, we should wait for new manga pages. As far as I can tell, this isn't the only thing that needs to be explained; there are several more shit that has to be covered besides the whole BM deal.

 

[hixa kuogame]

I agree with you 100% about the Chakra Delegation being absolute bull (I can't believe I missed that in the thread .-.). But My MAIN concern is that I DO believe Naruto's Host Transformation is OP. I mean I thought Bee would be the strongest, but Naruto is really just putting everyone to shame atm. He created a TBB that blew away the combined TBB of 5 OTHER TAILED BEASTS!!! WTF!!!??? And he makes these stupidly large TBBs seemingly in a matter of a few seconds. It took KURAMA HIMSELF a good 10 seconds (before getting interrupted , or it probably would've been even bigger) to do that in the anime (the only reason I use the anime here is because that part was completely canon andgave a good sense of pacing throughout the fight's progression)! Not to mention the ludicrous speed that seemingly came right out of the blue. . . I have absolutely NO explanation for that as I never saw Kurama himself blitz anyone nor did I see Pre-control Tailed Beast Naruto blitz anyone. . .

that transformation of narutos makes no sense
i really wasnt expecting that at all i mean dont get me wrong kcm and bm still look pretty cool but they make no sense like why is naruto pale yellow with a bright orange outline it makes no sense and pertains nothing to kurama himself and bm mode where does he get this robe from
even if he is supposed to resemble the sage it doesnt mean the sage had a robe made of chakra
i mean it would have been ok if his chakra cloaks were like a dark crimson like reddish orange

but i did look back over bm narutos fights as kurama form and he does seem a lttle OP though he does have help from gyuuki who looks slightly less strong
but it looks like kishi messed up because he made, what is a fan perception of, kurama at half power look way stronger than he does at full strength like the nine tails attack on konoha

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

Better yet, we should wait for new manga pages. As far as I can tell, this isn't the only thing that needs to be explained; there are several more shit that has to be covered besides the whole BM deal.

I agree. That's probably the best thing we could do at this poit in time.

that transformation of narutos makes no sense
i really wasnt expecting that at all i mean dont get me wrong kcm and bm still look pretty cool but they make no sense like why is naruto pale yellow with a bright orange outline it makes no sense and pertains nothing to kurama himself and bm mode where does he get this robe from
even if he is supposed to resemble the sage it doesnt mean the sage had a robe made of chakra
i mean it would have been ok if his chakra cloaks were like a dark crimson like reddish orange

but i did look back over bm narutos fights as kurama form and he does seem a lttle OP though he does have help from gyuuki who looks slightly less strong
but it looks like kishi messed up because he made, what is a fan perception of, kurama at half power look way stronger than he does at full strength like the nine tails attack on konoha

I agree. With what we've seen, Naruto would manhandle a full power Kurama. That's just not supposed to happen. . . And on Naruto's Tailed Beast Mode. . . I just couldn't agree more. And the robe was the biggest throwoff of all. I just can't understand where the hell it comes from. I mean it's already blatently obvious that Naruto is the Next Sage of 6 Paths, but making his chakra shroud liik almost exactly like him and completely forsaking the line of transformations taken by other Jinchuuriki (barring Gaara) was just kind of a wtf thing for me.

But I guess the only thing left to do now is wait for more manga and see if Kishimoto can explain any of this bs. . .

 

[bittu1415]

its there teamwork and num of tail more the power increase

 

[~Zonta~]

Great read and nice analysis once again bro =D

 

[sanninuto]

well, i guess that's nature sometimes favors some people like naruto and the kyuubi:bouncy: