Deidara vs Sasori?

[KidGamer65]

Alright so what your saying is when A person states that Another is stronger then them it is true ...

So In a Itachi Vs Jiraiya Debate Since Itachi Said Jiraiya was stronger .. Jiraiya automatically wins ?

Itachi said that him and Kisame couldn't even take on Jiraiya with added back up. That statement was voided when:

-It was revealed Itachi was a pacifist who was on Konoha's side this whole time. Why would he want to hurt someone from his own village unnecessarily?
-When he was defeated by an Akatsuki member. Itachi said that even with back up from Akatsuki he would have lost yet Jiraiya was defeated by an Akatsuki member.

lmao kankuro never stated that! Hwy make up BS??? Sasori wasnt even 25% in their fight! Sasori>>>>>>>>>>Diedara! Fact of manga! Get over it!

c0: Is a suicide, and with iron sand protecting him 360 he will survive it! Metal iron>>> snake skin (manda)
c1: Easy to read and dodge. Is enough to do damage. Waste of chakra really. With his thousands upon thousnds of senbons and weapons, no bombe no matter the size will get close to him!
c2 (dragon): again, Iron sand protects. And with iron sand he could easily fly with it by encasing himself with iron sand. (it isnt a jutsu, its simply controling iron sand anyway you please). Fact of manga states he can create any weapon period with iron sand! The sand shower alone is to fast for c2 drgon to dodge. He easily gets hit since its a fact c2 dragon isnt fast at all! And lets not forget his 100 puppets...
c3: Is a super bomb. It can easy be blocked with iron sand. metal>>>most/all bombs. Sasori can easily make the metal as dense as he chooses! He could literally do what ever shape he wants with his metal! Basically everything gaara can do with his sand he could do with his metal! He just doesnt have a desert like gaara could use. But as shown with teh 4th you could easily summon metal or what ever he did.
c4:mircro bombs do not effect wood, fact of manga! WHy do you think the grass, trees, rocks were destroy??? Because the nano bombs are designed to kill you from the organs in your boby (lungs to breath them in and transfer them to your blood stream). Only living organisms like animals and 100% humans are affected. Not trees (wood). So that will literally be a waste of chakra. Not to mention he could use iron sand to fly out of radius!


As you can see ive countered diedaras entire aresenal! And he lacks the stamina and chakra to last with a ninja like sasori! Its simply a bad match up! Get over it!

Pppl like you think sasori is weak because he let 2 women beat him. So you automatically think he is weak and shouldnt be compared to someone like itachi/diedara/kisame etc etc. But fact is databook says he is stronger and manga says he is stronger. No arguing!

^ This. Thread over.

 

[Zexion~]

lmao kankuro never stated that! Hwy make up BS??? Sasori wasnt even 25% in their fight! Sasori>>>>>>>>>>Diedara! Fact of manga! Get over it!

c0: Is a suicide, and with iron sand protecting him 360 he will survive it! Metal>iron over snake skin (manda)
c1: Easy to read and dodge. Is enough to do damage. Waste of chakra really. With his thousands upon thousnds of senbons and weapons, no bombe no matter the size will get close to him!
c2 (dragon): again, Iron sand protects. And with iron sand he could easily fly with it by encasing himself with iron sand. (it isnt a jutsu, its simply controling iron sand anyway you please). Fact of manga states he can create any weapon period with iron sand! The sand shower alone is to fast for c2 drgon to dodge. He easily gets hit since its a fact c2 dragon isnt fast at all! And lets not forget his 100 puppets...
c3: Is a super bomb. It can easy be blocked with iron sand. metal>>>most/all bombs. Sasori can easily make the metal as dense as he chooses! He could literally do what ever shape he wants with his metal! Basically everything gaara can do with his sand he could do with his metal! He just doesnt have a desert like gaara could use. But as shown with teh 4th you could easily summon metal or what ever he did.
c4:mircro bombs do not effect wood, fact of manga! WHy do you think the grass, trees, rocks were destroy??? Because the nano bombs are designed to kill you from the organs in your boby (lungs to breath them in and transfer them to your blood stream). Only living organisms like animals and 100% humans are affected. Not trees (wood). So that will literally be a waste of chakra. Not to mention he could use iron sand to fly out of radius!


As you can see ive countered diedaras entire aresenal! And he lacks the stamina and chakra to last with a ninja like sasori! Its simply a bad match up! Get over it!

Pppl like you think sasori is weak because he let 2 women beat him. So you automatically think he is weak and shouldnt be compared to someone like itachi/diedara/kisame etc etc. But fact is databook says he is stronger and manga says he is stronger. No arguing!

Sasori Does Not have Enough Iron Sand To make a shield That was as big as gaaras to block c3 .. Deidara is a intellegent tactition who could easily pin point when to attack which would be when sasori is using the 3rd on offense .. and actually most of sasori's poison mechanisms were In hiruko ... the third has poison gas which is easily countered....The 100 hands thing .. Which wont reach deidara in the air ... Besides he was not shown to be able to use that while controlling iron sand ... C1 Missiles Are accurately guided

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and can avoid the iron sand When sasori is attacking deidara.. one hit from those and the 3rd would be destroyed..

 

[Zexion~]

^ This. Thread over.

he posted all defensive counters he posted nothing on how sasori takes out deidara...

 

[Turson]

Sasori Does Not have Enough Iron Sand To make a shield That was as big as gaaras to block c3 ..

I beg to differ. 3rd Kazekage was said to be stronger than 4th, at look at the mass od golden dust that 4th was using against Gaara.

 

[Zexion~]

I beg to differ. 3rd Kazekage was said to be stronger than 4th, at look at the mass od golden dust that 4th was using against Gaara.

Stronger Because Iron sand> Golden Dust has nothing to do with quantity

 

[Turson]

Stronger Because Iron sand> Golden Dust has nothing to do with quantity

Still, its obvious that 3rd could use his technique on the same scale that 4th was using his.

 

[Zexion~]

Still, its obvious that 3rd could use his technique on the same scale that 4th was using his.

Not true He was only shown to have a limited amount of sand... the sand that was stored in his puppet ....

 

[Turson]

Not true He was only shown to have a limited amount of sand... the sand that was stored in his puppet ....

Do think that Sasori would be able to perform Satetsu Kaihou with IS that would fit into that puppet? Its not like that, sand is sealed there. 4th Kazekage wasnt walking with bigass container of Golned Dust.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I beg to differ. 3rd Kazekage was said to be stronger than 4th, at look at the mass od golden dust that 4th was using against Gaara.

he doesn't manipulate his iron sand in the same way as gold or sand. The gold and sand are manipulated individually to create attacks. Iron sand is used to make objects. It's unlikely that kazekage could use half of gaara's arsenal(sand sensing, sand eye, sand dome, sand burial) etc... That's all speculation and never been shown. Further more, sasori won't know how to do it if he's never witnessed it. He can't just make up jutsu on the spot. In any case, sasori still wins, but not by fantasy fanfiction jutsu.

 

[BazzBee]

It will be nearly a draw but if i had to choose i would say Dediara .....I also like Sasori my man

 

[Turson]

he doesn't manipulate his iron sand in the same way as gold or sand. The gold and sand are manipulated individually to create attacks.

What? In all three cases form of sand is limited only to their imagination, nothing else. I dont see any differences.

 

[Zexion~]

Half of this debating on both sides is turning in to assuming ..

Deidara's Bombs were shown to dig through sand and even wood .. IF they are indeed fighting outside ( location would of been nice op) then deidara would of had the intelligence to Store bombs Underground... then Suprising sasori with a destructive blow to the 3rd from underneath .. once again no one Has said how sasori even hits deidara .. you have all put sasori on the defensive .

 

[Turson]

once again no one Has said how sasori even hits deidara ..

With Satetsu Shigure, for example.

 

[Zexion~]

With Satetsu Shigure, for example.

The 3rds Magnetic field only extends so far if they are in a open location ( once again location would of helped) then deidara can out fly the field .. so the drizzle would not reach him ..

 

[Turson]

The 3rds Magnetic field only extends so far if they are in a open location ( once again location would of helped) then deidara can out fly the field .. so the drizzle would not reach him ..

What? If 4th was able to use his Golden Dust as long range attack, I dont see any reason why 3rd couldnt.

 

[Zexion~]

What? If 4th was able to use his Golden Dust as long range attack, I dont see any reason why 3rd couldnt.

/sigh the third was not special because he could controll iron sand whenever he wanted .. he was strong due to the fact he could convert chakra to magnetic forces thus enabling him to use the iron sand ..... And that magnetic force has a limit

 

[Turson]

/sigh the third was not special because he could controll iron sand whenever he wanted .. he was strong due to the fact he could convert chakra to magnetic forces thus enabling him to use the iron sand ..... And that magnetic force has a limit

So basically, you are saying that 3rd was a fodder and 4th Kazekage > 3rd Kazekage, right? Seriously, there is no logical reason why Sasori wouldnt be able to use IS as long range attack.

 

[Draegod]

Sasori Does Not have Enough Iron Sand To make a shield That was as big as gaaras to block c3 .. Deidara is a intellegent tactition who could easily pin point when to attack which would be when sasori is using the 3rd on offense .. and actually most of sasori's poison mechanisms were In hiruko ... the third has poison gas which is easily countered....The 100 hands thing .. Which wont reach deidara in the air ... Besides he was not shown to be able to use that while controlling iron sand ... C1 Missiles Are accurately guided

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and can avoid the iron sand When sasori is attacking deidara.. one hit from those and the 3rd would be destroyed..

Give it up dude! If i ve countered everything diedara could do what is left???

You bring up intelegence but fail to realize sasori is a genius! like itachi, sasuke, neji etc etc. He even killed a genius unlike almost anyone (3rd kazekage). He had spys everywhere. Everything he did was always calculated! So please dont bring up smarts! sasori>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>diedara by a longggggggggggggggggggggggggg shot! Diedara is hot headed, sasori is always calm no matter the situation!

Gaara didnt even need all that sand to protect himself. He used that much sand to.... PROTECT THE VILLAGE!!! FACT OF THE MANGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the sand held up easily!

Metal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sand! Fact of life! Sasori has been shown to manipulate it to what ever he pleases! Fact of manga is the 3rd kaze based his powers/abilities with the iron sand based of a shukaku host (like gaara, uses sand). And its a fact he can make any shape or form with his sand he chooses to make! he could simply make a cube prison to encase his body in to protect from literally what ever diedara has ever shown in the manga!!! Metal>>>>>>>Snake skin! If manda can survive (no getting blown to pieces) im sure metal can survive.


Iron sand shower>>>>>diedara! He will not be fast enough to dodge them! then we has 100 puppets! That will be more than enough to overwhelm him! And everything is drenched in poison aswelll???? Get out of here!

Fact is sasori has a counter for everthing diedara has shown, but deidara can not counter everything sasori has shown!

Bombs! That is all he is about! Sasori will take the proper precautions and attack accordingly! He is that good! NAd you must be mistaken! Hiruko is a puppet and nothing more! sasori can be inside the puppet or outside the puppet. Either way he can control the puppet since it is just that.. A puppet!

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you tell me how deidara counters sasoris entire arsenal?

 

[AGoodBoy]

What? In all three cases form of sand is limited only to their imagination, nothing else. I dont see any differences.

Then you're pretty blind. Have you ever seen gaara or his dad make needles? Does gaara have magnetism? Has gaara or his dad ever made a net?
It's not left to the imagination. Kazekage puppet has to manipulate iron with magnetism and then he uses that to create objects. sasori's never made him attack without making objects. Gaara passes chakra into sand to manipulate it, kazekage uses magnetism. There are lots of differences, but people like you like to extend gaara's skill to all the kazekages. Because gaara is strong, doesn't mean you need to passively use him in every single fight to assert your arguement.
If it's not seen, it can't be used. Different techniques require different methods to use.

Half of this debating on both sides is turning in to assuming ..

Deidara's Bombs were shown to dig through sand and even wood .. IF they are indeed fighting outside ( location would of been nice op) then deidara would of had the intelligence to Store bombs Underground... then Suprising sasori with a destructive blow to the 3rd from underneath .. once again no one Has said how sasori even hits deidara .. you have all put sasori on the defensive .

Iron sand objects/puppets can reach deidara. Deid is cool and all, but his jutsu are double edged swords, and he's a bit of a hot head. Sasori has those iron needles which move at high speed and could possibly pierce his flying monsters. Then there's the iron sand web attack. Then there's the 99 puppets that fly. The thing is, sasori only needs 1 scratch. Even though sasori does start in hiruko, if deidara goes into the air, sasori would have to up the ante and pull out something better in his arsenal.

 

[AGoodBoy]

So basically, you are saying that 3rd was a fodder and 4th Kazekage > 3rd Kazekage, right? Seriously, there is no logical reason why Sasori wouldnt be able to use IS as long range attack.

no that's not what he's saying because the 3rd and 4th had the same jutsu - jiton. 3rd was just better than him, and gaara is better than both.

Metal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sand! Fact of life! Sasori has been shown to manipulate it to what ever he pleases! Fact of manga is the 3rd kaze based his powers/abilities with the iron sand based of a shukaku host (like gaara, uses sand). And its a fact he can make any shape or form with his sand he chooses to make! he could simply make a cube prison to encase his body in to protect from literally what ever diedara has ever shown in the manga!!! Metal>>>>>>>Snake skin! If manda can survive (no getting blown to pieces) im sure metal can survive.

Iron sand shower>>>>>diedara!

That's holo. Sasori's never made the kazekage puppet make a holy object, nor has he used iron sand shower. He can't just use gaara's jutsu because his thing has sand in it's name. He's never shown 1 of gaara's jutsu. Stop extending. These are more made up feat. Use what's in the manga. Sasori wins with manga feats, not all this made up BS