[Theory] A quick understanding of Naruto's main bloodlines can reveal us some facts

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!WARNING! This is going to be a long post !WARNING!

!WARNING 2! I have a bad english !WARNING 2!

It's recommended for you to read these theories in order to understand mine:







So, accordingly to the most recent theories going around here, we're facing two possibilities:

First Possibility:


  1. SO6P got his powers through Juubi.
  2. The Elder Son gave origin to Uchiha and Hyuuga clans.
  3. The Younger Son gave origin to the Uzumaki and Senjuu clans.
Second possibility:

  1. Uzumaki and Hyuuga clans originated SO6P.
  2. Then the SO6P originated Senjuu and Uchiha clans.
I tried to put toghether the two possibilities the best way I could in a graph, and I got this 4-vectored graph as a result:

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We can see as a matter of fact that in both the possibilities we have:

  • SO6P obtaining all the power.
  • Uchihas being related to the Hyuugas.
  • Senjuus being related to the Uzumakis.
Now I'll start a few theories:

How Naruto is, considering his bloodlines, the closest person to the SO6P:

Naruto have Uzumaki's and Namikaze's bloodlines, so from our actual info, Naruto only have a weak bloodline bond with the SO6P. If Naruto is related to the Sage, so what are the origins of the Namikaze's clan?

Let's gather some information from the only Namikaze we know, which is obviously Minato:

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  • Minato suddenly creating a jutsu based on the BD.
  • Minato's ease for learning Uzumaki's most complicated jutsus.
  • Minato's eyes abilities.
From the first point, we see in Shouri Uchiha's post that the Uchihas received the mind powers, and the Senjuus received the body powers. Along with the first point, we can clearly see in Minato the presence of the body qualities pointed in the second and third points, as he seems to have the strange ability to create, learn and even master (FTG) some of the most complicated jutsus in Naruto universe.

We can also see that Minato's reflexes are beyond the normal. He countered a full-speed Raikage, but not only that: he defeated Obito, a person that owns the sharingan. Kishimoto has left very clear that in Minato and Obito's battle, the one with the best eyes would win. That's the proof that Minato has also inherited some Uchiha traits, that means, mind powers.

So, accordingly to my theory, Minato's bloodlines should be here:

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With that, Naruto earns a higher proximity to the SO6P bloodline. Now he has some kind of bloodline bond with every clan: Uzumaki, Senjuu, Uchiha and, consequently, Hyuuga. I think kishimoto gave us a hint about that when the bijuus, each of them, gave a little of their chakra to Naruto. That means: Naruto has a little of everything.

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Madara won't be able to be the Juubi's jinchuuriki:

If we look carefully in the graph, we'll see that only the Senjuu's and Uchiha's bloodlines doesn't match the SO6P full powers. Why? Because the SO6P's sons's bloods have been mixed with his wife's bloods. My theory is that Madara's rinneggan isn't at full power. The real power is only achieved if you have all of the bloodlines. Look again at the picture:

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Sakura doesn't have any special abilities:

This is kind of obvious. Kishimoto doesn't even have to say anything about that. Sakura just isn't inserted in any of the main bloodlines.

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The Sarutobi clan may have been originated from a different bloodline combination between the Senjuus and Uchihas:

Senjuu+Uchiha doesn't necessarily lead us to Rinnegan. All of the Sarutobis have great abilities with fire jutsus, and by the anime we can see that they can easily control more than one element, demonstrating some kind of Senjuu bloodline (knowing that the Senjuus are the clan of the 1000+ abilities, which is obvious, as they have the body power).

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And that's it. Feel free to add more theories or criticize mine.

FAQ:

Just because Minato is talented, it doesn't mean that he has special bloodlines. How do you explain that?


R: I didn't mean to say that Minato is special because he is talented. I wanted to say that Minato must be special because Naruto is special.

Follow my logic:

1 - Naruto is, one way or another, related to the SO6P. This was already proven in the manga. Kurama said it, all the other bijuus said it, and Naruto's kyuubi mode does even show it to us.
2 - Naruto's relations with the SO6P can be either spiritual or physical.
3 - Naruto's relations with the SO6P can only be physical.
.... 3.1 - In the Madara x 5 kages fight, Madara proved that Tsunade was wrong saying that power can't be achieved by any spiritual connections, like the will of fire or so.
.... 3.2 - If we consider my theory, Madara won't be able to take control over the Juubi.
.... 3.3 - If Madara can't, only Naruto will take control over the Juubi.
.... 3.3 - To take control over the Juubi, you need SO6P powers.
.... 3.4 - Accordingly to 3.1, Naruto can only have SO6P's power if he is somehow blood-related to the SO6P.
.... C1 - Therefore, 3 must be true.
4 - If Naruto is blood-related to the SO6P, so are his parents.
C2 - Therefore, Kushina and Minato have special bloodlines.
 
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You messed up big time. If you go back Minato doesn't have any ocular powers so he can't be on the yang side. And you put him close to the Uchiha. Naruto should be where the first question mark is. Soory but your theory is incorrect. Try again. Just because creatures that are made entirely of chakra give someone some of their chakra powers doesn't mean anything except chakra beasts gave someone their chakra. Your second possibilities make no sense if the So6P used his power of creation to create everything in the ninja world(that's my understanding of it) And how can you say that you can only have full power if everything comes from the So6P and then his sons. And from there everything flows down. You should have created a flow down chart.
 

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so,you say naruto is smart?
No, Naruto isn't as smart as Minato. What I wanted to say is that Naruto's bloodlines are the nearest to the SO6P.

You messed up big time. If you go back Minato doesn't have any ocular powers so he can't be on the yang side. And you put him close to the Uchiha. Naruto should be where the first question mark is. Soory but your theory is incorrect. Try again. Just because creatures that are made entirely of chakra give someone some of their chakra powers doesn't mean anything except chakra beasts gave someone their chakra. Your second possibilities make no sense if the So6P used his power of creation to create everything in the ninja world(that's my understanding of it) And how can you say that you can only have full power if everything comes from the So6P and then his sons. And from there everything flows down. You should have created a flow down chart.
The question isn't if he has any of the defined ocular powers currently present in naruto universe. The question is that he could've inherited some kind of ability from one of them, like sharingan's super reflexes ability, but not the sharingan itself.

With that being said, Naruto is still closer to the Senjuus, as his mother is an Uzumaki, but he can have Uchiha traits, even if they are innactive in his DNA. Which still makes him closer to the SO6P than any of the other character.

I considered the possibility that the SO6P had some anterior bloodlines (Uzumaki and Hyuuga) because if he hadn't, then how he defeated the Juubi?

EDIT: Thank you for the criticizing.
 
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Good theories but I can't fathom Minato being of any relation with the Uchiha..Thats a lil farfetched but hey if Kishimoto decides to go into Minato's history more depth anything is possible..***** for effort and diagrams very impressive
 

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if the sage got his rinnegan from being the juubi jinchuuriki;how did he use chibaku tensei on the juubi's body if he already split the juubi's chakra into the other beasts and wasn't its jinchuuriki anymore?

and madara already has the rinnegan what's going to happen if he becomes the juubi's jinchuuriki?
 

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I've been waiting for this thread. Great job sir!
Nice theory.
plus reps.
Its certainly possible
well not bad i actually like this theory ... its different and who knows anything is possible in naruto
Very possible, all of it.
Good theories but I can't fathom Minato being of any relation with the Uchiha..Thats a lil farfetched but hey if Kishimoto decides to go into Minato's history more depth anything is possible..***** for effort and diagrams very impressive
Nice theory but there are some flaws however good work
Thanks everyone!

if the sage got his rinnegan from being the juubi jinchuuriki;how did he use chibaku tensei on the juubi's body if he already split the juubi's chakra into the other beasts and wasn't its jinchuuriki anymore?

and madara already has the rinnegan what's going to happen if he becomes the juubi's jinchuuriki?
That's why I considered the other possibility: he got his powers from a special bloodline combination.
 

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Doubtful theory. Also, why did you "flip" it? Rinnengan should be in top??

And you say Madara don't have full power rinnengan. But you also say that Senju come from younger son, and Uchiha come from older son. But you also say younger and older has Uzumaki and Hyuga respectively. So basically you bash your own theory, since this means, having Senju also makes you have Uzumaki.

Regarding Minato it's sad people always try to put him in some special lineage. He is just a talented Namikaze. If he is senju or anything else it would not only be sad for the story, it would just be weird. You don't have to be Senju, Uchiha, Uzumaki, or Hyuga to have strong life force or great talent. Sakura is a talented medic, but you said yourself that she isn't special, although I don't see the importance of that....

Look at entire Akatsuki. What about Sasori and Deidara? They are just as talented as Itachi and Minato. Are they senju too?

What about Jiraya? Although he is not talented, he has a strong life force. But it seems certain that he is from the Sarutobi lineage.

And what about Orochimaru and Kabuto? I could go on... but you should get it now..

You don't need to have the SO6P's DNA in your body to become strong, this is a fact.

Naruto isn't close to SO6P from what is known. In your theory, yes, and since it cannot be disproved yet, no problem making it, but your "proofs" for the theory are invalid.

And basing one theory on many other theories, that you have, is just silly. You need to prove the initial one "correct", before making more theories, and the others don't just follow from the initial one. It's kinda stupid in my eyes. You laid no actual manga proves out in this thread, so basically it's just yapping about the past. I'm not impressed, :|
 
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if the sage got his rinnegan from being the juubi jinchuuriki;how did he use chibaku tensei on the juubi's body if he already split the juubi's chakra into the other beasts and wasn't its jinchuuriki anymore?

and madara already has the rinnegan what's going to happen if he becomes the juubi's jinchuuriki?
I think he got Rinnegan from the Jubbi and retained it even after removing Jubbi from his body because the mutation was permanent.... Also the Uchihas Sharingan is a mini version of Jubbi eye.... The Jubbi's influence has remained in SO6P and all his descendants.... =D =D

OP - I don't think Minato is related to Uchiha.... He is related to the Senju.... I'm saying this cause if you remember Nawaki looks exactly like Naruto.... I can't see Kushina being the link between Naruto and Nawaki so it has something to do with Minato.... So he has to be related to The Senjus.... =D =D
 
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if the sage got his rinnegan from being the juubi jinchuuriki;how did he use chibaku tensei on the juubi's body if he already split the juubi's chakra into the other beasts and wasn't its jinchuuriki anymore?

and madara already has the rinnegan what's going to happen if he becomes the juubi's jinchuuriki?
This is easy. He could create the moon while still being a jinchuriki, place a seal there, so he could use a reverse summoning for the Juubi's body..
 

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Before I say anything, I'd like to thank you. I appreciate your criticism, this made me think about my theory.

Doubtful theory. Also, why did you "flip" it? Rinnengan should be in top??
I just tried to show how the bloodlines combinations worked. I didn't consider the power of each bloodline.

And you say Madara don't have full power rinnengan. But you also say that Senju come from younger son, and Uchiha come from older son. But you also say younger and older has Uzumaki and Hyuga respectively. So basically you bash your own theory, since this means, having Senju also makes you have Uzumaki
That's surely my fault. I just tried to represent that the Senjuus had bloodlines relationships with the Uzumakis, and the Uchihas are related to the Hyuugas, but each of them are in a separated group. Therefore, Senjuu's and Uchiha's bloodlines are distant from their parents, the Uzumakis and Hyuugas, and therefore their combination can't reach a perfect level, which is the SO6P level.

Regarding Minato it's sad people always try to put him in some special lineage. He is just a talented Namikaze. If he is senju or anything else it would not only be sad for the story, it would just be weird. You don't have to be Senju, Uchiha, Uzumaki, or Hyuga to have strong life force or great talent. Sakura is a talented medic, but you said yourself that she isn't special, although I don't see the importance of that....

Look at entire Akatsuki. What about Sasori and Deidara? They are just as talented as Itachi and Minato. Are they senju too?

What about Jiraya? Although he is not talented, he has a strong life force. But it seems certain that he is from the Sarutobi lineage.

And what about Orochimaru and Kabuto? I could go on... but you should get it now..
I didn't mean to say that Minato is special because he is talented. I wanted to say that Minato must be special because Naruto is special.

I'll try to make my logic less confusing:

1 - Naruto is, one way or another, related to the SO6P. This is already proved in the manga. Kurama said it, all the other bijuus said it, and Naruto's kyuubi mode does even show it to us.
2 - Naruto's relations with the SO6P can be either spiritual or physical.
3 - In the Madara x 5 kages fight, Madara proved that power can't be achieved by any spiritual connections, like the will of fire or so.
5 - Considering my theory, Madara won't be able to take control over the Juubi.
6 - If Madara can't, then only Naruto can.
7 - But Naruto lacks power to reach the SO6P level.
8 - Accordingly to item 4, the only way Naruto can control the Juubi is if he inherit the perfect bloodline combination, that is, the SO6P's bloodline combination.
9 - For the perfect bloodline combination come true, Minato and Kushina undoubtedly have to be special.
10 - We already know Kushina's bloodlines, so all we have to do is to fit Minato in this equation.

Aaaaaand:If Naruto needs to have blood relations to the SO6P, therefore Kushina and Minato are blood-related to the SO6P's bloodline combinations. We have here that the Uzumakis and Namikazes are related to the SO6P.

If my logic is flawless, you won't be able to escape from the conclusions.

And basing one theory on many other theories, that you have, is just silly. You need to prove the initial one "correct", before making more theories, and the others don't just follow from the initial one. It's kinda stupid in my eyes. You laid no actual manga proves out in this thread, so basically it's just yapping about the past. I'm not impressed,
Point accepted. There is a flaw on my theory, because it's based on other theories. But meh, it's still a theory...
 
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That's surely my fault. I just tried to represent that the Senjuus had bloodlines relationships with the Uzumakis, and the Uchihas are related to the Hyuugas, but each of them are in a separated group. Therefore, Senjuu's and Uchiha's bloodlines are distant from their parents, the Uzumakis and Hyuugas, and therefore their combination can't reach a perfect level, which is the SO6P level.
I find your comment here very interesting, because I was reading your answer from bottom to top (don't ask why). I was gonna write the exact same thing, to your comment below, on why Minato has to be special.

When it comes to DNA, every single little trace will always be carried on. Although it may not be dominating in your genes, there is still a slight possibility that it will be dominating in your kids genes. Say 2 brown eyed people have a blue eyed daughter. This is highly unlikely, however, yet a rare possibility, if one of their parents had blue eyes, despite both having brown eyes, the genes are there for the child to get blue eyes as well.

I think, no rather I'm almost certain, that this is indeed the case with Naruto. Nobody can possibly have any close relations to the so6p anymore. He lived decades ago, and carrying "perfect" genes on for so long is impossible.

I think from Kurama's comments (and the SO6P's last words to Kurama), that Naruto is that one exception that occurs once a millennium. Kind of the same analogy to Luffy in OP. I could even be as far fetched to agree to some theory, that the SO6P did something to his DNA to ensure, that this would happen. After all both Kurama and SO6P sort of knew the day would come, where Naruto would show up.

Also why do you think Kurama is the strongest? Why was he given the powers to feel people's intentions? Why did it happen to be exactly the child he was sealed into, that would eventually become the "savior"? Is this all random? Doubtfully.

There is absolutely no reason to believe it has anything to do with Minato, as long as we assume SO6P is closely related to Uzumaki somehow. Naruto is just that one exception in the DNA. Besides I don't see any of those relations you mention in Minato. Naruto doesn't have talent. He has his mothers physical energy, which is a trade mark for every known Uzumaki. Instead he got his fathers looks.

I didn't mean to say that Minato is special because he is talented. I wanted to say that Minato must be special because Naruto is special.

I'll try to make my logic less confusing:

1 - Naruto is, one way or another, related to the SO6P. This is already proved in the manga. Kurama said it, all the other bijuus said it, and Naruto's kyuubi mode does even show it to us.
2 - Naruto's relations with the SO6P can be either spiritual or physical.
3 - In the Madara x 5 kages fight, Madara proved that power can't be achieved by any spiritual connections, like the will of fire or so.
5 - Considering my theory, Madara won't be able to take control over the Juubi.
6 - If Madara can't, then only Naruto can.
7 - But Naruto lacks power to reach the SO6P level.
8 - Accordingly to item 4, the only way Naruto can control the Juubi is if he inherit the perfect bloodline combination, that is, the SO6P's bloodline combination.
9 - For the perfect bloodline combination come true, Minato and Kushina undoubtedly have to be special.
10 - We already know Kushina's bloodlines, so all we have to do is to fit Minato in this equation.
I don't really think you need to be special to take over the Juubi. At least there is no actual prove for it. There is no proof, whether, SO6P had rinnengan before he sealed it, and there is no proof, that he even needed any specific ninjutsu to do it. SO6P would never have been mentioned as a priest or a savior, if he had failed to seal it. So anyone who would have selaed it, would become such.

Besides, it's not really the genes that make you special, if you are to become a jinchuriki. It's the "suns" (to use A's analogy). It's your beliefs, your will, and your friends. Being a jinchuriki for any beast being it the juubi or the 1-tailed - has absolutely nothing to do with your blood line, dojutsu, or anything of that matter. Surely some are better suited, but anyone can adapt to it.

As I see it, Madara didn't obtain the rinnengan to become the Juubi's jinchuriki. He obtained it, so for other reasons. Then he realized, that he could actually revive the Juubi using its shell. It seems very random to me from the way Madara described it for Obito.

So I don't really think you can look at it in such a way. I know Kishi has his ways with only giving credit and scene time to a few clans, and I also have a rather negative vision on that part, so I'm probably not the most "positive" person to comment on the topic, however, I do also believe, that Kishi has shown, that what it takes to be a jinchuriki. To become a hero like Naruto, has nothing to do with any relation to so6p at all. U_U

Aaaaaand:If Naruto needs to have blood relations to the SO6P, therefore Kushina and Minato are blood-related to the SO6P's bloodline combinations. We have here that the Uzumakis and Namikazes are related to the SO6P.

If my logic is flawless, you won't be able to escape from the conclusions.
Well as I said above, Minato doesn't need to have any relation at all to the SO6P, no actually you said it yourself regarding Madara Uchiha. Just one is enough, just a single trace in the DNA is enough. And for what I know from these type of stories, it's typically precisely so very little, that connects the person to the actual "predecessor".
 
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When it comes to DNA, every single little trace will always be carried on. Although it may not be dominating in your genes, there is still a slight possibility that it will be dominating in your kids genes. Say 2 brown eyed people have a blue eyed daughter. This is highly unlikely, however, yet a rare possibility, if one of their parents had blue eyes, despite both having brown eyes, the genes are there for the child to get blue eyes as well.

I think, no rather I'm almost certain, that this is indeed the case with Naruto. Nobody can possibly have any close relations to the so6p anymore. He lived decades ago, and carrying "perfect" genes on for so long is impossible.
Yes, I understand that. But I need to point something here: SO6P's DNA originated Senjuus and Uchihas, and as Kishi seems to like the YinYang thing, we can deduce that his DNA were half-activated in each of his sons. As time goes on, we can have some changes and mutations here and there: the wood release, kamui, koto amatsukami... these powers, as far as we know, have no relation with the SO6P's powers, this means new DNA combination. With that in mind, I've been thinking that when the Sage said "You'll know what true power is..." he could've been saying that Naruto will surpass him and his powers.

Coming back to the YinYang thing: Madara was thinking that if he merge the Yin and the Yang into only one, he could reach SO6P's original powers again. But he wasn't considering that SO6P's DNA was, like you said, being "corrupted" as the time passed. That's another reason why I think Madara won't be able to handle the Juubi.

Also, Kabuto, before he was defeated by Itachi, said that he were the closest person to the Rikudou Sennin. He had absorbed a lot of powers and abilities from other ninjas. Maybe he thought that a little fraction of Rikudou's DNA were in every person, and his chances of getting close to him raised every time he incorporated a new power. That would give us a good hint on how Rikudou's DNA were spread in the world.

There is absolutely no reason to believe it has anything to do with Minato, as long as we assume SO6P is closely related to Uzumaki somehow. Naruto is just that one exception in the DNA. Besides I don't see any of those relations you mention in Minato. Naruto doesn't have talent. He has his mothers physical energy, which is a trade mark for every known Uzumaki. Instead he got his fathers looks.
Agreed. It even makes more sense to me if I think Naruto is an exception, and it actually doesn't break my theory.

I don't really think you need to be special to take over the Juubi. At least there is no actual prove for it. There is no proof, whether, SO6P had rinnengan before he sealed it, and there is no proof, that he even needed any specific ninjutsu to do it. SO6P would never have been mentioned as a priest or a savior, if he had failed to seal it. So anyone who would have selaed it, would become such.
In fact, you're saying that the SO6P has power in his name, but his real power was the power to control the Juubi, because he had motivation and will to stand against Juubi's mind and body crushing powers. I imagine that it would be pretty difficult to make the Juubi stay quiet inside of you. I'm sure the Juubi, just like the kyuubi, would try and use everything to get out of SO6P's body or to dominate his mind and possess his body. This would give us another proof that Madara can't control Juubi, but only Naruto can.

This really makes me believe that Madara has another objectives in mind. He doesn't want to make everyone fall in a genjutsu. If Madara wanted a world only for him, he could've just cast the genjutsu on himself.
 

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Yes, I understand that. But I need to point something here: SO6P's DNA originated Senjuus and Uchihas, and as Kishi seems to like the YinYang thing, we can deduce that his DNA were half-activated in each of his sons. As time goes on, we can have some changes and mutations here and there: the wood release, kamui, koto amatsukami... these powers, as far as we know, have no relation with the SO6P's powers, this means new DNA combination. With that in mind, I've been thinking that when the Sage said "You'll know what true power is..." he could've been saying that Naruto will surpass him and his powers.

Coming back to the YinYang thing: Madara was thinking that if he merge the Yin and the Yang into only one, he could reach SO6P's original powers again. But he wasn't considering that SO6P's DNA was, like you said, being "corrupted" as the time passed. That's another reason why I think Madara won't be able to handle the Juubi.
Yeah the yin-yang area is kinda weird IMO, and too unexplained. Just taking someones DNA does not give you yang (if he had yang). So far I don't believe anyone, but the SO6P could use both yin and yang. As I understand it, being able to do so, can make "illusion" turn "real". That is why I think, that so6p split his chakra in 2.
It has nothing to do with ninjutsu, being a sage could be what allows you to use yang, but I am not even sure about that.

Also as I said in my last reply, Kurama is special. I think the only one, who can be related to both yin and yang is indeed Kurama. Only by controlling him completely - as a jinchuriki - you can be able to use both. It would actually seem, as if this is exactly what Naruto just did, when he gave his chakra to the others. Although that would not make sense, when Kurama has no yin part.
I don't know if you mean that KKG's are yang release? And techniques from MS are yin? However, I wouldn't call it "mutations". It's simply the development of ninjutsu. KKg's have proved to be none-blood line related, since several different users of many sort of techniques have been seen. At least for lava release, dust release, and magnetic release.
For the MS, this is more complicated.

I think the powers are awakened through "feelings". And how does it really work? We don't know, but a guess could be, that it's all techniques created by the sage, and thus when awakening MS, you have a chance, of awakening one of them. I mean we can easily assume, that the sage developed several ninjutsu, which he classified as forbidden. This would explain why he created a sharingan to try and limit these powers.

Also, Kabuto, before he was defeated by Itachi, said that he were the closest person to the Rikudou Sennin. He had absorbed a lot of powers and abilities from other ninjas. Maybe he thought that a little fraction of Rikudou's DNA were in every person, and his chances of getting close to him raised every time he incorporated a new power. That would give us a good hint on how Rikudou's DNA were spread in the world.
I think Kabuto said this, because his powers were so exceptional. His regenerating powers basically made him impossible to kill. And he had the sage abilities of course from Dragon mode. Although we can probably all agree, Kabuto was kinda f*cked up in his mind. Narcissists usually see themselves as the closest to perfection.



Agreed. It even makes more sense to me if I think Naruto is an exception, and it actually doesn't break my theory.
It's just me who never liked the fact, that Naruto had such famous parents. It didn't really "fit" his character IMO. Kushina I could accept, but Minato also. It was cool yeah, but if Minato proves to be related to the senju (and probably tobirama), I just can't see Naruto as that "savior" or exception, that appears ones every millennium. Of course this is just a personal opinion, but also the reason, why I don't think/hope Minato is related to the senju. Because Minato - indirectly - is also that "exception", he was also named a "savior", etc..


In fact, you're saying that the SO6P has power in his name, but his real power was the power to control the Juubi, because he had motivation and will to stand against Juubi's mind and body crushing powers. I imagine that it would be pretty difficult to make the Juubi stay quiet inside of you. I'm sure the Juubi, just like the kyuubi, would try and use everything to get out of SO6P's body or to dominate his mind and possess his body. This would give us another proof that Madara can't control Juubi, but only Naruto can.

This really makes me believe that Madara has another objectives in mind. He doesn't want to make everyone fall in a genjutsu. If Madara wanted a world only for him, he could've just cast the genjutsu on himself.
Yeah I kind of agree on this one. Madara probably can't control its powers, if he gets to seal it. Of course there are always options with sharingan/rinnengan that he could somehow hypnotize, although I doubt that possibility.

However, Madara still has very strong beliefs. We saw it from Hashirama's flashback. I could even go as far, as to say his beliefs are stronger and more determined than Hashirama's (and Hashi would probably agree, lol). Nonetheless, this could let him control the Juubi in very important situations, like when he would fight the rest of the world. Over longer terms, I don't think it's the solid solution though. If he kills everyone he will be corrupted, etc.

That said, I do also think Naruto will be the one to "control" it. I don't think anyone can defeat the Juubi, and I also don't see anyone sealing it. But I could see a way, where either one of the other beasts were extracted, or where they somehow "enter" the Juubi, finds the sage tools, and remove them, so it loses Kurama's power. This should dissolve it. I mean Shikaku must have made his plan longer than to just defeating Madara, and he's that smart thinking, since Kakashi told him about those things!
 
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