[Discussion] Amaterasu isn't Instant!

[jorgelius]

It appears straight away where the user sets his sight so you're wrong it is like teleportation since it appears instantly and not like a stream of fire like a katon move. You're kinda right about the distance since its limitation is how far the eyes can see but again distance doesnt matter becauses its an instant hit.

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exactly like stream of fire how fire can move light speed anyway it defies physic and logic

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

It appears straight away where the user sets his sight so you're wrong it is like teleportation since it appears instantly and not like a stream of fire like a katon move. You're kinda right about the distance since its limitation is how far the eyes can see but again distance doesnt matter becauses its an instant hit.

Nope!
Raikage was in his V2 armore already when sasuke built up the pressure,but he still waited and dodged at the last moment when sasuke casted the amaterasu,that says a lot!
Raikage dodged amaterasu point blank!
If amaterasu was instant,raikage would have been dead!

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Lol no not at all what if the ms is out already and the tech causes the bleeding

Lol agreed

I think more like 1 sec at best, but I and the others wasn't talking about the process of shooting it, but the act. If we do bring that into it then the ftg takes longer as the seal has to be placed, kunai has to be thrown...etc

Nope,Leaving the eye in 3 sharingan tomoe alone,feeds on chakra,talkless of Ms,that's why Madara Leaves it on 3 tomoe only
Nope again!
Even the process of shooting it is slow,Remember,sasuke shot it,and Raikage waited at the last moment and dodged it,that shows how slow the shooting Interval is!

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

I thought this was obvious,but I found out it wasn't!
The only Instantaneous Ninjutsu in NV is FTG.....
But I have been told Amaterasu is Instantaneous,here comes my real question..
How did sasuke Outrun Amaterasu before it caught up with him?
How did Raikage dodge it if its Instantaneous?
I think they used a FTG....
But last I heared,only Minato could use it perfectly....or am I wrong on that one,cause they are still alive(somewhat),and the only way they could avoid it is through FTG

Kamui, or mabey some other space time jutsu is instantanious. But kamui does have draw backs

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Kamui, or mabey some other space time jutsu is instantanious. But kamui does have draw backs

Only FTG is Instantaneous,Kamui isn't!

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Amaterasu = Overrated

Amaterasu is like when you fight a fat dude, you know that is hard for him to hit you cuz his slow, but if he connects its over! Thats how this sh!t is

basically this right here

 

[6PathsofKami]

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exactly like stream of fire how fire can move light speed anyway it defies physic and logic

Dude thats Blaze Release we are talking about Amaterasu directly from eye to the target.

Nope!
Raikage was in his V2 armore already when sasuke built up the pressure,but he still waited and dodged at the last moment when sasuke casted the amaterasu,that says a lot!
Raikage dodged amaterasu point blank!
If amaterasu was instant,raikage would have been dead!

What I mean when I say instant is that after the user has it ready its a direct hit and its instant, Raikage dodged it because he anticipated when Sasuke will hit it so he moved away from his line of sight basicly he was taking a gamble.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Dude thats Blaze Release we are talking about Amaterasu directly from eye to the target.




What I mean when I say instant is that after the user has it ready its a direct hit and its instant, Raikage dodged it because he anticipated when Sasuke will hit it so he moved away from his line of sight basicly he was taking a gamble.

Its Instant for those who can't Dodge....
Ay Never took a gamble,He prpared for it!
Before Amaterasu almost hit him,he moved out of the way,that says a loot!!

 

[6PathsofKami]

Its Instant for those who can't Dodge....
Ay Never took a gamble,He prpared for it!
Before Amaterasu almost hit him,he moved out of the way,that says a loot!!

Doesnt matter if Ay dodged it, the attack is still instant, it doesnt travel in air, it appears wherever the user sets his eyes on, thats instant.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Doesnt matter if Ay dodged it, the attack is still instant, it doesnt travel in air, it appears wherever the user sets his eyes on, thats instant.

Instant is something that appears instantly without warning,like Minato's FTG,Since No one Is faster than it and can't evade it,then amaterasu should be about the same speed with FTG.
So if Ay couldn't outrun FTG,he shouldn't be able to outrun amaterasu!

 

[Rikudou Sennin balls]

Amaterasu is a powerful attack if it connects to your skin. The fire burns very slow. Tamari and Kankuro were able to take the armor off samurai before they start to burn. A real fire attack would've easily spread across someone's body very fast. Also the attack is way to easy to predict. When using it the eye bleeds so for a person with extreme speed or a good defense they can block or avoid the attack.

Sasuke's blaze release increases the chances of a hit but again against someone with a fast enough body or defenses it'll be a hard attack.

It wouldn't work on
A, Naruto, Minato, Gaara, Gaara's father, Itachi, Nagato, Madara, Harashima, Tobirama, (the 2 have fought Madara and Izuna who I'm sure both had Amaterasu seeing as brothers have the same eye jutsu and Madara has both Tsukuyomi and Susanoo so it's obvous he'd also have Amaterasu) and anyone that's near their calabore.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Doesnt matter if Ay dodged it, the attack is still instant, it doesnt travel in air, it appears wherever the user sets his eyes on, thats instant.

Instant is something that appears instantly without warning,like Minato's FTG,Since No one Is faster than it and can't evade it,then amaterasu should be about the same speed with FTG.
So if Ay couldn't outrun FTG,he shouldn't be able to outrun amaterasu!
Am tired of these cat and mouse game,ama end it!
See how close raikage and sasuke are? Very close!!

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Now if Amaterasu was Instant as you guys pointed out,Isn't it suppose to be able to Ignite something that close?
Put in Mind V2 raikage evaded it,and He's definitely beneath Km Naruto in speed.
The best part is Raikage evaded it easily while sasuke is Directly infront of him!
And we all know Km Naruto is Light years below FTG Minato,which is an Instant speed...

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Dodging it.......

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Voila! He dodged it!
So for raikage to dodge a point blank Amaterasu,which you guys claim was Instant at point blank range with speed inferior to km,which in turn is Inferior to an Instant Ninjutsu known as Ftg,Is proof enough that Amaterasu isn't Instant!

 

[6PathsofKami]

Instant is something that appears instantly without warning,like Minato's FTG,Since No one Is faster than it and can't evade it,then amaterasu should be about the same speed with FTG.
So if Ay couldn't outrun FTG,he shouldn't be able to outrun amaterasu!
Am tired of these cat and mouse game,ama end it!
See how close raikage and sasuke are? Very close!!

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Now if Amaterasu was Instant as you guys pointed out,Isn't it suppose to be able to Ignite something that close?
Put in Mind V2 raikage evaded it,and He's definitely beneath Km Naruto in speed.
The best part is Raikage evaded it easily while sasuke is Directly infront of him!
And we all know Km Naruto is Light years below FTG Minato,which is an Instant speed...

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Dodging it.......

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Voila! He dodged it!
So for raikage to dodge a point blank Amaterasu,which you guys claim was Instant at point blank range with speed inferior to km,which in turn is Inferior to an Instant Ninjutsu known as Ftg,Is proof enough that Amaterasu isn't Instant!

If its not instant what is it then lol? It appears on the spot without travelling from the eyes, thats instant for me.

 

[shogun973]

Nope,you can't dodge an Instantaneous attack...

the how do ppl dodge goku instant transmissions attacks, they predict it ...amateretsu can be sensed or seen b4 its used....

 

[black uchiha]

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exactly like stream of fire how fire can move light speed anyway it defies physic and logic

Lol no just no try harder

Nope,Leaving the eye in 3 sharingan tomoe alone,feeds on chakra,talkless of Ms,that's why Madara Leaves it on 3 tomoe only
Nope again!
Even the process of shooting it is slow,Remember,sasuke shot it,and Raikage waited at the last moment and dodged it,that shows how slow the shooting Interval is!

That don't matter.....and slow you're saying the fastest ninja dodging it makes it slow? Do you hear yourself? lol....who else has dodged it?

Instant is something that appears instantly without warning,like Minato's FTG,Since No one Is faster than it and can't evade it,then amaterasu should be about the same speed with FTG.
So if Ay couldn't outrun FTG,he shouldn't be able to outrun amaterasu!

Bee countered the ftg so does that make it slow or not instant?

 

[Decimation206]

Ya i wish more knew this as well

 

[6PathsofKami]

Lol no just no try harder

That don't matter.....and slow you're saying the fastest ninja dodging it makes it slow? Do you hear yourself? lol....who else has dodged it?

Bee countered the ftg so does that make it slow or not instant?

Exactly, just because it got countered doesnt make it not instant.

 

[insid3rkil3r]

Hiraishin isnt instant either.

Or at least it depends on what you actually mean by instant...


Amaterasu has a certain amount of ''activation time'', but so does Hiraishin.


If the user decides to cast Amaterasu on a certain target, the mangekyo bleeds and starts casting Amaterasu. That activation process, even tho VERY small, still takes time. But once the flames are fired, they hit what is in front of them faster than anything does.

The way to beat the jutsu is to beat the activation time, not the flames itself, which is what Raikage did. Go back and look up at the panel where Raikage dodged it. He had barely moved a feet sideways where Amaterasu had reached a distance at least 5-6 times greater than Raikage had moved.


Raikage is faster than the activation process, not the flames itself. The flames itself are pretty damn close to instant.


Same for Hiraishin,,, once the jutsu is casted, the teleportation between point A and B is almost instant, but the jutsu does require handseals to perform.


Amaterasu = No hand seal but Mangekyo takes a sec to fire the flames
Hiraishin = The teleportation is pretty instant but still requires handseals

 

[thegame]

There are no such things as an "instant" in Naruto. This isn't a Magic card game or something...
Above post explained it.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Hiraishin isnt instant either.

Or at least it depends on what you actually mean by instant...


Amaterasu has a certain amount of ''activation time'', but so does Hiraishin.


If the user decides to cast Amaterasu on a certain target, the mangekyo bleeds and starts casting Amaterasu. That activation process, even tho VERY small, still takes time. But once the flames are fired, they hit what is in front of them faster than anything does.

The way to beat the jutsu is to beat the activation time, not the flames itself, which is what Raikage did. Go back and look up at the panel where Raikage dodged it. He had barely moved a feet sideways where Amaterasu had reached a distance at least 5-6 times greater than Raikage had moved.


Raikage is faster than the activation process, not the flames itself. The flames itself are pretty damn close to instant.


Same for Hiraishin,,, once the jutsu is casted, the teleportation between point A and B is almost instant, but the jutsu does require handseals to perform.


Amaterasu = No hand seal but Mangekyo takes a sec to fire the flames
Hiraishin = The teleportation is pretty instant but still requires handseals

Not if the user has an EMS.